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susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
We have hundreds of these in the backyard........not good enough?

Credit: Death Training, 29 Palms MCAGCC
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Get a rent a cop. I hear the Hamburgler is looking for a new gig and will work for food.
James Wilcox

Boulder climber
The Coast
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:49pm PT
Dude, weren't you trained in martial arts back in high school? Meth heads usually fold after one quick kick to...well, pretty much anywhere.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:53pm PT


ARE THOSE REAL?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
This looks like a real fun thread for a gun thread. I'll have to find time to read it! In the meantime what I have to add is that I keep a couple of cans of Bear Assault Bear spray hanging around - they're not lethal but man are they lethal! Ya just sorta don't know what yer gonna have time to grab (like in that prior post there)!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
Scar on the left.
DEFINITELY not real.























The following post shows that one can live in Seattle after growing up in the deep south.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:02pm PT
They're real. That's my sister.














Hey, I've never even been to the deep south - scares me too much. I spose I sneaked a peek er 2 though.
krahmes

Social climber
Stumptown
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:04pm PT


I don't like the AK-47 much; good for the weak minded; the AR-15 is more aesthetic gun, but after the last 2 weeks you can see that the social engineering collectivicrats have that gun front and center in their sights so to speak. Hard to argue with a Glock 9mm.
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:14pm PT
Slavs work cheap. If the Marine's Phalanx proves too costly, you could always go old school with a Macedonian phalanx. The tweakers would be totally f*#ked.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:26pm PT
Those are 92F's...

and the safeties are off.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Well, sure she's taken the safety off, it's a DIY double mastectomy. I'm not sure how much tissue she's going for, but I'd call it a radical mastectomy anyway.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
I suggest a Cap Gun
Credit: Locker
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
92 Fs?

Well, I'm not sure that is the cup size but I'm pretty sure you are using centimeters.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Dec 21, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
God advice needed / Dome Defense
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 21, 2012 - 06:20pm PT
Her fingers look kinda worked.

...juss' sayin'....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 06:20pm PT
Fish's head on Lil Cowboy Bradleys' body. Strange world we live in.

edit: Hmmm.... gives me the idea. A little bit of security wouldn't hurt. And they take direction!

The B Team
The B Team
Credit: Jebus H Bomz
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 07:02pm PT
"4. My house is recently remodeled so I don't want to mess up the walls."

This has to be the greatest single statement of all time!

McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Dec 21, 2012 - 07:02pm PT
Her fingers look kinda worked.


I did not realize she was pointing at herself. I thought somebody else was holding the guns. Now that I look - I see they are my sisters hands. She used to chase me with a knife too.
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 07:12pm PT
Hi Russ:

These stats apply more to urban areas, so maybe they don't apply as much to your situation:


"54% of firearm-related deaths occurred in the home where the gun was kept
70.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved handguns
0.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved an intruder shot while attempting entry
1.8% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) were judged by police as self-defense
there were 1.3 times as many accidental firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings
there were 4.6 times as many criminal firearm-related homicides in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings
there were 37 times as many suicides in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings.
He concluded that "the advisability of keeping firearms in the home for protection must be questioned".[8] Critics of this study noted that it was restricted to firearm-related deaths, effectively excluding incidents in which gun owners used their firearm to injure and frighten away an intruder. But the study also excluded incidents in which individuals were non-fatally injured in a firearm accident, criminal assault or suicide attempt, as well as instances in which a homeowner used a gun to threaten or terrorize another member of the household, as sometimes occurs in the context of domestic violence. A subsequent Kellermann-led study identified both fatal and nonfatal injuries occurring in homes in 3 cities Seattle WA, Memphis TN, and Galveston TX. It noted that for every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four accidental shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides. (J of Trauma, August 1998. pp: 263-267). He then developed the now much criticized 43:1 ratio that states every time a gun is used in self-defense, it is 43 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide, or accidental shooting.

The ratio was numerically accurate but, according to pro-gun groups, misleading because it compared harmful life-taking uses of guns not to life-saving defensive uses (the benefit corresponding to the harms of lives taken with firearms), but rather only to the tiny subset of defensive uses that involve killing a criminal assailant, i.e. justifiable homicides. The NRA and other pro-gun groups argued the ratio that seemed to imply a sort of cost-benefit ratio for gun ownership was actually nothing of the kind because, allegedly, it did not take account of any benefits that corresponded to its costs."

The idea is that statistically speaking, the likelihood of you using the gun effectively for self defense is quite low, compared to it being used for homicide, suicide, or accidental shooting.

I am not saying, that you shouldn't buy a gun, but be aware that even having them in the house poses its own dangers.

Sincerely
aspendougy@gmail.com



JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 21, 2012 - 07:20pm PT
Louisville Slugger.

Everything else is aid.

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