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Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 21, 2012 - 02:10pm PT
Ok, all this gun stuff has got me thinking. I need some home protection.

My situation and thinking:

1. I live in a rural area with mostly burglary crimes to fuel meth purchases.
So I'm thinking something that will fit in a bath robe and can be used on a burglar. But I also want something with accuracy at range, since them Meth guys are fast and can run, even carrying a T.V.

2. I live well away from people.
Things like a silencer are not needed. Nobody is around to hear either the shots or the perps.

3. I'm not afraid of close contact interactions with perps.
Maybe a gun with a knife attached? It gets so boring out here on the sand that any interaction might be fun, and any physicality in the hallway at night probably carries over to my climbing.

4. My house is recently remodeled so I don't want to mess up the walls.
Through and through rounds might be a problem. Unless it is way clean. Last thing I want is a f*#king set of lungs pasted to my livingroom wall. A small hole I can deal with.

5. Must be able to get ammo at Walmart or Big 5
Our retail choices are limited out here. Cheap ammo would be good too.

Please advise...
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
Save some money and just buy a sack of meth and it's likely they will just take that.
John M

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
Don't Taz me bro..
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
Trip wires with explosives will work, even when you're passed out or not home. Just tell your dogs to jump over them

Mmm, might pose a problem with #4 on your list but a bleeding meth addict on your floor will be messy no matter what

;-)

Karl
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Meh, easy one. Any autoloader 12 gauge will do.

1st round - nonlethal rubber
2nd round - bird shot
3rd round - 00 Buck
4th round - flechette (Do NOT use in the house, believe me.)

Done. Although I know you're just posting this up to rile up the masses.

You ready to sell that VW yet?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Why don't you ask your next door neighbor ?

John M

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
After contemplating it a bit more.. I think Tiger pits would be the answer. They break into your house, they fall into the trap.. the tiger eats them. No mess.
jstan

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
Just in's answer is on the mark. Make that a sack of unusually powerful meth. Maybe even with some enhancements.

Problem solved.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Here ya go, Mussy.
Just make sure they get outdoors first. . .

http://www.motortrend.com/classic/roadtests/8204_first_test_m1_abrams/photos/
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
Build a wall around your property. Embed broken glass on top of the wall. Get a mean dog.

You'll know if anyone is trying to steal your stuff. Then you knife 'em.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
Pigs do a better job John M and they create bacon after.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:23pm PT

They're selling "FAT FUKS WITH GUNS" (actually a Blue light special currently) at Wal Mart this week...

Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
This used to work quite well for me...

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neversummer

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
Red Rider bb-gun?
John M

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
Bacons good, but tigers are cool. He could have some tiger traps and some wild boar traps. Best of both worlds. Wild kingdom baby.. thats what I'm talking about.

On a different note, I thought Russ kept a passle of dirtbags in the basement making all sorts of doodads for him. Why not just have them patrol the property. Heck.. give them beer and put them out front and no one will ever think of robbing you. One look and the thief's will feel sorry for you and be making donations. Not taking things.

"Here dude.. you need this more then I do. Merry Christmas".
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
When in Rome . . . .

You are going about it the wrong way. Get some mid-eighties cars up on cinder blocks, some old bike frames, couple of old couches in the yard (free on CL), couple of pit bulls (CL again). Any kind of remodel or improvement makes you a target.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
Dood, just blind 'em with a 1000 watt LED flashlight and then bonk 'em on the noggin.
Easy clean up in aisle 1. We know you luv yer LED's.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
Funny, a friend and i were talking about this yesterday and we both came to the conclusion that if we found ourselves living in an area where we felt we actually needed a gun in our homes to feel safe, then it was time to move.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
Russ, I think a kill stick is the best option. It's a round deployed from a basically a baton you have to press up against the meth head's offending cranium. Usually used to dispatch crocodiles and the like.

Obvious cool factors: Close quarters. Sporting in only the way a one shot device could be. Probably incomprehensible to the gorked out lil' speed bump to boot. Fires out a nice .410 shotgun shell, rendering 140 pounds of twitching hamburger on your floor without more than one self-contained wound to the old think box.

Think about it.

edit: That or the No Country for Old Men air compressor thing. You'll develop true o dub strength in no time wrasslin' with them feisty varmints while dropping them with unorthodox weapons in close quarters.

Then you can do some real x-fit workouts while you hike the bodies out into the desert for disposal.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
An anecdote for Bergbryce, because I think he lives in SLT;

My ex and I moved from Meyers to SLT about five years ago. Within the first week, someone was shot a hundred feet from our house.
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