Does the NRA have a stupid pill problem?

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michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
Wait, LOLOLOL. Chicago, perfect example.


Not everyone is a 60 year old, has-been 5.7 trad climber, who lives in the bushes.


monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Let's ban all guns

Keep making stuff up.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
What do you suggest happens then?

You seem to be full of ideas. (Not really.)
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
Let's ban all guns. Law abiding citizens turn them in.

Nobody ever said that. But how about AT LEAST as much regulation as operating a car?

Tell me, where do criminals get their guns? Where do they ultimately come from? And remember, the "favorite" gun used in crimes is a S&W... NOT some foreign bullshit counter fit.

You don't think regulations would help with this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
... Ya.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:58pm PT


Hence the enormous amount of ongoing training I try to stress...

Try to stress it all you want. Fact remains a dipshit like me can get a CCW after taking a 2 hour class. No renewals, no mental evaluations, no insurance. THAT JUST AIN'T RIGHT.


You're not a dipshit because you see some of the requirements.

Education is the key here, not more laws. You can't enforce common sense but you CAN educate people.

I agree fully with that real training is essential to effectively carry concealed. Too often what I see are people who buy small handguns out of fear. They think after a couple of boxes of ammo at the range that they're fine and 'trained'.

It's a lifestyle choice. Like climbing, it's something that you need to practice quite a bit and actually enjoy doing. That takes time, money, and commitment. It ain't rocket science.

I've talked a lot of women out of getting their carry license and a handful of guys. It's not for everyone.

BTW, women are the best novice shots hands down. In my experience they also operate better under stress..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
Hey Ron, you should read that article I posted:

"According to a 1994 ATF study on "Sources of Crime Guns in Southern California," many straw purchases are conducted in an openly "suggestive" manner where two people walk into a gun store, one selects a firearm, and then the other uses identification for the purchase and pays for the gun. Or, several underage people walk into a store and an adult with them makes the purchases. Both of these are illegal activities."
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
"I don't remember the NRA saying that black teenagers
should all be armed after Trayvon Martin was murdered."

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
I have a CCL, I carry a 9mm inside my belt almost all day when I am out.

It is absurd, paranoid, childish, to keep screaming that my guns are going to be "taken away".

NO ONE is talking about taking guns away from people who legally own them.

NO ONE is going to come to your home and take away your god damn guns.

What SOME people are suggesting is that perhaps after much discussion maybe we can arrive at a way to mitigate mass murder WITHOUT TAKING YOUR GUNS AWAY

still don't get it yet?

michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
They won't take away the guns.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
2500 times last year alone legal gun owners stopped violent crime when confronted with it long before any police assistance ...

So? There are well over a million "Violent Crimes" every year, 2500 is hardly enough to even be a rounding error. How many violent crimes were stopped simply by the victim running away?

In 2009 there were 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries.

Want to keep playing pointless stats ping pong?

TE
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:39am PT
I'm with that Bruce and it's a huge issue. I joined a range that recycles the lead out of the berms (which is only better, not perfect) and has filters on the air scrubbers for the indoor range so as to minimize spreading that stuff around the woods. Lead fishing weights from broken tackle getting left in the water is a big, perhaps bigger issue, as well IMO.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:44am PT
I find it rather ironic that the OP of this thread uses an avatar pic of a nun pointing a handgun.....yet another media form portraying violence.

Shameful that the OP can blame others, when his own naivete promotes the very violence he protests.

Who exactly has the "stupid pill" problem???

Look in the mirror.

monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:06am PT
It's that damn LIBERUL media again. A conservative media outlet like Fox would never portray violence in a gratuitous manner.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:13am PT
monolith, it is a proven fact that the liberal media has an agenda of promoting the sensational.

Wake up.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:15am PT
Including the conservative media. (the biggest network, btw)

Wake up.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:36am PT
How about going after Hollywood, the creeps that put out this crap that fills the minds of our society. Boycott the theaters that show this trash....they are willfully creating a society of violence.

Pathetic.

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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:57am PT
I've always found in interesting that in the US, I can watch an Afghan's head getting blown off (aka "a terrorist") on CNN but I can't see a woman's breast or hear the word "F!ck"

Another great example where Federal laws don't make any sense.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:15am PT
the "favorite" gun used in crimes is a S&W... NOT some foreign bullshit counter fit.

Huh?

counter fit?
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:20am PT
the "favorite" gun used in crimes is a S&W... NOT some foreign bullshit counter fit.

Huh?

counter fit?

I just ignored it. It hurt my head less.


The media is such a f*cking propaganda machine, if you disagree you're helpless.
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