Does the NRA have a stupid pill problem?

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Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
gee I just can't figure that on out either, Donald

maybe those third graders couldn't stop screaming long enough to jump on Lanza

There were adults there. You made the case for unarmed people stopping the Arizona shooter, in a lame attempt at proving something.
Why couldn't the unarmed adults have stopped Lanza in the same way?
There was a child killed at that time and plenty of people screaming.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
When only outlaws have guns, at least we'll have a damn good idea who the outlaws are. So we can shoot 'em!

It's so hard to tell who is bad now, what with all these "law abiding" citizens threatening revolt and giving back their bullets one well-aimed round at a time. Let's make it as simple as Republican rhetoric. Outlaw/Law abiding citizen. Abortion/Pregnancy. God/Allah. White/Illegal immigrant. Dualism is awesome!
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:30pm PT
"the kid could have just as easily built a bomb."

Really Coz? It's just as easy to build a bomb as it is to pick up a gun and start shooting?
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
"Why couldn't the unarmed adults have stopped Lanza in the same way?"

And what chance does a teacher with a handgun have against a psycho with an assault rifle, especially when the psycho has assault rifle training and practice?

There were armed adults at the Gifford shooting - didn't matter.

rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
Public schools are already prisons. The kids are required by law to be there and have very limited ability to get out other than at organized yard time. Most schools are fenced in. Most have police of their own, at least part time.

Schools are already safer than most other places. This need to protect kids 100% in school then let them near a car or highway on the way home is absurd.

Dave
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
As to the issue of an assault rifle competing against a pistol, the gun was not fully automatic. Is that type of semi-automatic rifle that mush easier to aim at the length of a classroom than a pistol?

Let's see, Glock handgun with 17 rounds in the clip against Bushmaster with ? rounds? The first three or four are the only rounds that will count so clip size is not really an issue.

Plus, if a teacher starts to shoot and misses, the attacker will still run for cover or be distracted from doing lots of evil.

I NOT NOT ADVOCATE teachers having guns in school, since there are no real gun dangers there anyhow, but arguments against it because of gun variations and coming from non-gun owners, are a little annoying.

Dave
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
"Controlling assault weapons won't stop those events from happening, it will only allow a further entree for organized crime to run yet another illegal product on the black market."

Idiotically, factually and provably WRONG


35 gun-related deaths in the UK last year

12000 in the US

Guns are basically illegal in the UK


No black market, no guns...just Repub Fantasy World gibberish
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Ya lets grow the government even more & put guards at every school. & how much more will that add to the U. S. debt.
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
"I NOT NOT ADVOCATE teachers having guns in school, since there are no real gun dangers there anyhow, but arguments against it because of gun variations and coming from non-gun owners, are a little annoying."

What? You don't want them there, but you're annoyed if people object to guns being there on "gun variation" grounds?

Hahahaha, of a piece with the rest of the gun nut "logic".
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
As jghedge says above thetre were armed adults at the scene of the Giffords shooting--at least one was interviewed by the press. He chose not to shoot because in the--predictible--chaos it wasn't clear whom to shoot at,was afraid that he might hit innocent civilians, and was also afraid that the arriving cops would see him with a gun and shoot him. This is the reality of such situations--panic, chaos and uncertainty--that the NRA-types refuse to acknowledge in their assumption that more guns make things safer.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
Don't worry, Alan, now you will get the stats on guns stopping killings and criminals thwarted. To which somebody will respond with more unchecked sprees figures, accidental deaths, suicides.... And so on.... Repeat until nauseated.
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
"Ya lets grow the government even more & put guards at every school. & how much more will that add to the U. S. debt. "

That is hilarious coming from repubs - that and suddenly they want increased mental health care, and screening gun sales based on some Orwellian national mental health database

Like they haven't been cutting funding for schools and health care for 30 years - now they want to spend hundreds of billions on school security and a national mental health database

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
You'd think a mental health database is the last things Republicans would want.

edit: Heh. Couldn't help it. Hope I didn't throw somebody off their med adherence.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
Also armed guard at Columbine, and armed cop arrived soon after. Both fired---both missed--killings continued.
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
And what chance does a teacher with a handgun have against a psycho with an assault rifle, especially when the psycho has assault rifle training and practice?

No one is suggesting such a thing . Go back and read the context of my argument with the one who calls himself Norton.





35 gun-related deaths in the UK last year

12000 in the US

Guns are basically illegal in the UK


No black market, no guns...just Repub Fantasy World gibberish

Ignoring the vast differences in the two countries, historically, socially , politically.
When those factors are considered your facile comparisons of the two countries are meaningless.

You have not cited any substantial reason why you think a black market would not flourish.
Remember even the President was running black market guns in Mexico ( resulting in the death of innocent people).


Like they haven't been cutting funding for schools and health care for 30 years - now they want to spend hundreds of billions on school security and a national mental health database

Cutting funding, Thats a laugh.

It probably would cost billions after the Libs in Congress got their hands on it.

Banning guns will not stop these events. Anyone who suggests so is holding out a false hope that they will not be able to deliver on.
They are exploiting these tragedies for selfish political motives.
jghedge

climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
"Ignoring the vast differences in the two countries, historically, socially , politically."

The only relevant difference is the 2nd amendment.

They have an even more violent, war-like, imperial history than we do - by far.

Again, that UK gun-deaths stat simply destroys the pro-gun argument. It's proof that the pro-gun argument fails.

cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
I think theyve got a massive hoard of stupid pills, so, no, they do not have a problem with stupid pills.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
Remember even the President was running black market guns in Mexico ( resulting in the death of innocent people).


America trades - gulp - arms?

Next thing you'll blow my mind and tell me we routinely hijack the democratic process in other countries when it's inconvenient to our interests.
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
Two vast differences:
1. The Brits do not have a second amendment.

2. They were never a frontier, in which it would have lunacy to venture into without a weapon.
They have no tradition of self-reliance . They have a history of being powerless vassals and serfs who traded their freedom for security offered by an overlord.

America trades - gulp - arms?

Yes , black market arms- run by the President and his attorney general.
These illegal weapons have been responsible for countless deaths in Mexico and the US.

based on his doings along the mexican border. One of the roots to this nonsense.
You mean the tracing of fast and furious guns run by Obama and Holder to the death of a border patrol agent ?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
Is Limbaugh an NRA member? Cause he's got a pill problem.
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