Does the NRA have a stupid pill problem?

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atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
"That is not what is being proposed by the gun-hating Left. They are proposing that these
bans affect everyone . They won't stop until all weapons owned by ordinary citizens are prohibited.
They are exploiting this tragedy to bring that outcome about."

Thats just not true. Assault weapon bans should affect everyone, but noone is advocating taking your hunting rifles and shotguns, or handguns.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
trained to do whatever it takes to stop them.

Like force them to commit suicide? That seems to be the common result of these brutal massacres. Why would death dissuade someone who wants to die?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

so says the NRA chief spokesman today

Well, bullsh#t.

Jared Loughner's rampage in Tucson was stopped when he had to pause to reload. Brave UNARMED citizens used that window of opportunity to pounce on him.
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
While violence is a characteristic of mental illness, not all mentally ill people are violent.

Why don't we listen to the experts? Such as world renowned forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Park Dietz, who is in this video at 1:40.

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
When only outlaws have guns, at least we'll have a damn good idea who the outlaws are. So we can shoot 'em!

It's so hard to tell who is bad now, what with all these "law abiding" citizens threatening revolt and giving back their bullets one well-aimed round at a time. Let's make it as simple as Republican rhetoric. Outlaw/Law abiding citizen. Abortion/Pregnancy. God/Allah. White/Illegal immigrant. Dualism is awesome!
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
Public schools are already prisons. The kids are required by law to be there and have very limited ability to get out other than at organized yard time. Most schools are fenced in. Most have police of their own, at least part time.

Schools are already safer than most other places. This need to protect kids 100% in school then let them near a car or highway on the way home is absurd.

Dave
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
As to the issue of an assault rifle competing against a pistol, the gun was not fully automatic. Is that type of semi-automatic rifle that mush easier to aim at the length of a classroom than a pistol?

Let's see, Glock handgun with 17 rounds in the clip against Bushmaster with ? rounds? The first three or four are the only rounds that will count so clip size is not really an issue.

Plus, if a teacher starts to shoot and misses, the attacker will still run for cover or be distracted from doing lots of evil.

I NOT NOT ADVOCATE teachers having guns in school, since there are no real gun dangers there anyhow, but arguments against it because of gun variations and coming from non-gun owners, are a little annoying.

Dave
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Ya lets grow the government even more & put guards at every school. & how much more will that add to the U. S. debt.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
As jghedge says above thetre were armed adults at the scene of the Giffords shooting--at least one was interviewed by the press. He chose not to shoot because in the--predictible--chaos it wasn't clear whom to shoot at,was afraid that he might hit innocent civilians, and was also afraid that the arriving cops would see him with a gun and shoot him. This is the reality of such situations--panic, chaos and uncertainty--that the NRA-types refuse to acknowledge in their assumption that more guns make things safer.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
Don't worry, Alan, now you will get the stats on guns stopping killings and criminals thwarted. To which somebody will respond with more unchecked sprees figures, accidental deaths, suicides.... And so on.... Repeat until nauseated.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
You'd think a mental health database is the last things Republicans would want.

edit: Heh. Couldn't help it. Hope I didn't throw somebody off their med adherence.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
Also armed guard at Columbine, and armed cop arrived soon after. Both fired---both missed--killings continued.
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
I think theyve got a massive hoard of stupid pills, so, no, they do not have a problem with stupid pills.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
Remember even the President was running black market guns in Mexico ( resulting in the death of innocent people).


America trades - gulp - arms?

Next thing you'll blow my mind and tell me we routinely hijack the democratic process in other countries when it's inconvenient to our interests.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
Is Limbaugh an NRA member? Cause he's got a pill problem.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:25pm PT
Is Limbaugh an NRA member? Cause he's got a pill problem.


I'm pretty sure that's one of the most crucial qualifications for NRA membership.
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:25pm PT
http://www.meetthenra.org/nra-member/Harlon%20Carter

Harlon Carter changed the NRA form a hunting oriented association to a gun rights group . Convicted of murder in 1931 and sounds like an all-around A##hole based on his doings along the mexican border. One of the roots to this nonsense.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
I can't believe what a disgusting selfish human being that LaPierre as#@&%e is.

Yeah let's insult the memory of those 20 children that died ONE WEEK ago by proposing more guns will solve the problem (and pad the pockets of his buddies) and blame everyone else but themselves.

Yeah armed guards are THE solution. Like a guy with an assault rifle wouldn't just take the guard out first.

I'm not even opposed to armed guards, especially at bad schools with a history of gun problems, but to ignore easy access to assault rifles and large capacity clips contributed to this tragedy is spineless and evil.

I was on the fence about assault rifles (I see the appeal of shooting them) but now I say f*#k it ban them with no grandfather clause this time.
Ban high capacity clips.
Ban armor piercing bullets.
Ban sniper rifles.
Pass laws requiring guns be locked up or serious consequences.
Pass laws limiting violent video games and movies to 18 plus with serious consequences for allowing a child to watch them.
Do a much better job with mental health treatment and teaching doctors and parents what to watch out for.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
I'm pretty sure that's one of the most crucial qualifications for NRA membership

I don't have health insurance though. Should I rob a Walgreens for the pills?
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 21, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Yes , black market arms- run by the President and his attorney general.
These illegal weapons have been responsible for countless deaths in Mexico and the US.

I would shudder if there were CIA involvement. I wouldn't want them to soil their hands in this.

Seriously?

The only way you're going to faze me is if you told me the Prez is personally loading trucks. And I'd only be taken aback by the fact he found time in his schedule.

I'm sure no other American orchestrated arms smuggling has resulted in American deaths. I'm sure we haven't smuggled drugs, money, participated in human trafficking. Administration after administration.
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