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atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:12am PT
"A totalitarian state run by the all- knowing, all- seeing , and ever -compassionate liberal intellectual elite empowered by the government -dependent masses."

Hahahahahaha... Its posts like this that are the strongest argument for controlling assault weapons.
Roadie

Trad climber
Bishop, Ca
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:15am PT
While the NRA does not weigh in on non-gun issues it seems like many of its members are also staunch Tea-party supporters. I wonder who the NRA thinks is going to end up paying for all those armed, and hopefully trained, school guards.
Maybe the NRA could pick up the tab.
Just a thought.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:16am PT
A totalitarian state run by the all- knowing, all- seeing , and ever -compassionate liberal intellectual elite empowered by the government -dependent masses.
They will fix everything.

The correct question here is how is someone as stupid as you to be prevented from owning a gun or even appearing in public. Time for you to crawl back into your survivalist cave.

Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:18am PT
Hahahahahaha... Its posts like this that are the strongest argument for controlling assault weapons.

Controlling assault weapons won't stop those events from happening, it will only allow a further entree for organized crime to run yet another illegal product on the black market.Anyone that wants one of those weapons will get one.

Lets make drugs illegal in the same way, while we are at it. Lets see if that works.

The correct question here is how is someone as stupid as you to be prevented from owning a gun or even appearing in public. Time for you to crawl back into your survivalist cave.

Now, now no reason for bigoted generalizations and transparent ad hominems.


If there wasn't freedom of speech, how would the NRA be able to repeatedly be able to publicly demonstrate that it is made up of cynical, opportunistic extremists?

Or for Liberals to demonize and character -assassinate their opponents.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:19am PT
Don't know about the NRA but I am positive the NBA has an unlimited supply.

Excellent, although I think the NRA's proposal is right up there, too.

Jstan, I wish I could be more sanguine on the role of the media in all this. Unfortunately, the role of the media has not changed since the inception of our Republic -- it is to sell its product. Whether it's Hearst ginning up hysteria over the Maine or the modern press making you think the murder rate is spiraling upward (rather than the truth, viz. downward), they're just trying to create enough of a sensation to get us to buy their wares.

Sad to say, the vast majority of the American public has no taste for facts, so no one reports mere facts except for a very few outlets. There's clearly a market for objective news; otherwise the Wall Street Journal would be out of business, given its rather high price with no free access. Unfortunately, that market is apparently pretty small. The New York Times might still be doing OK, but most other news organizations that report with any depth are in deep financial trouble.

If we could change that, we'd be on to something. Since I don't see that changing, we need to work with what we have. The media's going orgasmic over the possibility of using this latest tragedy to make illegal use of firearms more illegal was not one of the media's finer hours.

John
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:22am PT
A totalitarian state run by the all- knowing, all- seeing , and ever -compassionate liberal intellectual elite empowered by the government -dependent masses.

BTW, which defense contractor you work for?

Just wondering how the money confiscated from my paycheck gets to you.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:22am PT
"Controlling assault weapons won't stop those events from happening"

I agree, but it makes sense to try to keep guns out of delusional idiots hands. And so I support any regulation that make it more difficult/impossible to obtain those weapons.
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:27am PT
Just wondering how the money confiscated from my paycheck gets to you

Well in order to defend this nation from hostile forces , and follow the dictates of the Constitution 'provide for the common defense', you can have our weapons made in Cuba, Venzuela, or even China, for mighty cheap.

F*#k 'em.

Everyone knows you are a man by now. No need to cuss,for the 100th time.




I agree, but it makes sense to try to keep guns out of delusional idiots hands. And so I support any regulation that make it more difficult/impossible to obtain those weapons.

That is not what is being proposed by the gun-hating Left. They are proposing that these
bans affect everyone . They won't stop until all weapons owned by ordinary citizens are prohibited.
They are exploiting this tragedy to bring that outcome about.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:27am PT
So, is this a 'diss the tea party' thread?

If so, I'm all in. F*#k 'em.
wayne w

Trad climber
the nw
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:35am PT
Perhaps we should consider arming the School custodial staff, lunch room employees, and crossing guards as well. That will solve the problem.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:40am PT
"That is not what is being proposed by the gun-hating Left. They are proposing that these
bans affect everyone . They won't stop until all weapons owned by ordinary citizens are prohibited.
They are exploiting this tragedy to bring that outcome about."

Thats just not true. Assault weapon bans should affect everyone, but noone is advocating taking your hunting rifles and shotguns, or handguns.
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:40am PT
Perhaps we should consider arming the School custodial staff, lunch room employees, and crossing guards as well. That will solve the problem.

No. Just one well-trained individual so that any potential mass killers will know that someone there at any given school is armed and trained to do whatever it takes to stop them.

Thats just not true. Assault weapon bans should affect everyone, but noone is advocating taking your hunting rifles and shotguns, or handguns.

My friend , you don't know the current crop of radical Leftists that now control the Federal government like I do.
These people are experts at Alinsky-style incrementalism.
They will ban assault weapons, but that ultimately won't work because another mass killing will occur, then they will lay the groundwork for either banning the next category of weapons, or an outright ban on all weapons owned by the common citizenry, which is where these people are ultimately headed. Make no mistake about it.
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:43am PT
Well in order to defend this nation from hostile forces , and follow the dictates of the Constitution 'provide for the common defense', you can have our weapons made in Cuba, Venzuela, or even China, for mighty cheap.

Or we can have them made by a millions of middle-class welfare recipients working at quarter-speed.

Oh, wait! It's December...change that to one-tenth speed.




Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:47am PT
trained to do whatever it takes to stop them.

Like force them to commit suicide? That seems to be the common result of these brutal massacres. Why would death dissuade someone who wants to die?
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:53am PT
Like force them to commit suicide? That seems to be the common result of these brutal massacres. Why would death dissuade someone who wants to die?

They want to kill people first. That would be why you would station someone there to prevent that. Who gives a rats rear end if the killers want to kill themselves.
If a mass killers knows that someone has the lethal means to stop them they are much more likely to think twice about trying to get what their sick minds want.

Yeah, they're like border collies or something, always trying to herd us. I bet you didn't know that border collies are secret marxists, did you?

My border collie will do anything to prevent being taken to a government -run 'shelter'

Or they'll just go to the mall.

There are armed guards at most malls. That is probably why this Lanza went to the school.

The killer at the Portland mall recently was only able to kill two people. Not 20 kids and 6 adults.
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Dec 21, 2012 - 11:56am PT
If a mass killers knows that someone has the lethal means to stop them they are much more likely to think twice about trying to get what their sick minds want.

Or they'll just go to the mall.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 21, 2012 - 12:05pm PT
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the NRA has lost whatever credibility it ever had


deploying 100s of 1000s of volunteer Rambo-wannabes who've had a 100-hour NRA course, throughout the US, at every school?


talk about a fuking disaster waiting to happen...the NRA brass are living in a fantasy world


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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 21, 2012 - 12:12pm PT
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

so says the NRA chief spokesman today

Well, bullsh#t.

Jared Loughner's rampage in Tucson was stopped when he had to pause to reload. Brave UNARMED citizens used that window of opportunity to pounce on him.
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
deploying 100s of 1000s of volunteer Rambo-wannabes who've had a 100-hour NRA course, throughout the US, at every school?

Someone recently asked me what I meant by the typical low-information Obama voter. Look no further.

Jared Loughner's rampage in Tucson was stopped when he had to pause to reload. Brave UNARMED citizens used that window of opportunity to pounce on him

Why didn't the scores of unarmed brave citizens stop Lanza then?

Maybe the janitor could have bit him on the ankle?
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Dec 21, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
While violence is a characteristic of mental illness, not all mentally ill people are violent.

Why don't we listen to the experts? Such as world renowned forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Park Dietz, who is in this video at 1:40.

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