TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 21, 2012 - 10:01am PT
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Just askin.
Yeah, I want my kids going to school where they got armed guards marching patrol around the perimeter. You might as well send them to prison.
Stupid fukks, the NRA.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:06am PT
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Indeed....
I find it strange that neither side the the "gun issue" is willing to look into direct causation of psychotropic meds in these cases.
All just have a vague "mental health" mention. Whatever the Hell that means.
None of these recent killers were insane raging psychotics before.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:06am PT
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We all need to sit down and have a discussion of the role of the press in our society. Does it keep us safer? Or does it encourage more attacks putting more children in danger?
It is time to forget the politics of a free-press and instead think of the larger questions like the safety of our children.
We’re not talking about taking away the BullStreamMedia First Amendment rights; we’re only talking about cutting the carnage brought about by Assault Journalism.
Does the BSM really need high-capacity magazines?
Does the BSM really need 5 minute clips?
The 1st amendment guarantees the freedom of the press but that isn’t an unlimited right by any means. The 1st amendment was written back in a time of printed media that traveled at the speed of a horse.
There is no way the founding fathers could have known how media technology would evolve.
These days the BSM can operate at the speed of light, with video cameras shooting at least 30 frames a second. They could not have envisioned high-capacity magazines that can shoot out reams of lies before they need to be reloaded with the next issue.
They could not have envisioned the private sale of Media outside the control of the government, private Media that could easily set off the next lunatic on a spree of carnage.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:09am PT
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Don't know about the NRA but I am positive the NBA has an unlimited supply.
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:13am PT
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Can't the gunman just shoot the armed policeman while he's eating donuts
He's gunna shoot everyone anyway, just shoot the policeman first, and then move on to the kids
Sorry, but that is No solution
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:14am PT
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I find it strange that neither side the the "gun issue" is willing to look into direct causation of psychotropic meds in these cases.
That's because there is no cause and effect. You've got your cause & effect mixed up. It's the underlying mental illness that is the cause, not the drugs used to treat people who are mentally ill.
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:21am PT
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It's the underlying mental illness that is the cause,
agreed.
Now, just replace "mental illness" with "culture" and we'll really be getting somewhere.
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jghedge
climber
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:23am PT
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Completely ridiculous for the NRA, a far-right organization, to be calling for more funding for schools and health, when the repub party's central, motivating goal is to cut funding for schools and health - delusional, dissociative drivel.
LaPierre said we need to have full-time, armed guards at schools like we do at banks - except, of course, most banks don't have full-time armed guards - mine certainly doesn't
All this so people can continue to own assault weapons - insanity
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:26am PT
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Shiver.....with NRA pronouncements I feel the breath of evil incarnate.
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jghedge
climber
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:32am PT
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LaPierre this morning: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
This is about the level of logic and critical reasoning of a child throwing a tantrum, and reflects a child's understanding of, and willingness to accept, reality
Not surprising, since that's the level of intellect and maturity the NRA panders to
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moosedrool
Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:35am PT
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+1 donini
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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Pure hysteria
I have no idea why LaPierre blames Obama, what did Obama do to make things better or worse?
Nothing, except make good speaches after the fact
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coz
Mountain climber
Northern surly
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:47am PT
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How about gun safes and locks, if the Mom in this case didn't make the guns available well...
What about personal responablity, the kid could have just as easily built a bomb.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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Building a bomb isn't a knee jerk reaction. It would take some effort and time.
Grabbing a gun and going postal is the definition of knee jerk reaction.
How about regulating more strongly, or banning, large capacity clips for semi auto weapons?
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jstan
climber
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:53am PT
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We all need to sit down and have a discussion of the role of the press in our society. Does it keep us safer?
Definitely. And yes they are keeping us safer. If the press were not there we would probably be quicker to sweep this all under the rug and to do nothing. I know this gives a problem to those who believe a closet full of bushmasters will allow them to overthrow the government or beat back a party of Seals attacking their home. But let's face it. When you balance doing nothing to prevent the slaughter of six year olds in their school, versus the pleasure of having a deluded belief
the choice is pretty simple.
And yes we hope very fervently this will not stop with outlawing civil purchase of additional combat weapons and outlawing civil ownership of large magazines.
The weapons are not even the major question that will come up. Not even. We will have to consider the tradeoffs involved in the Federal government monitoring internet searches, all internet searches, to try and discover who might be getting the information they need to prepare for a slaughter.
That will be a real question. I wish I could say I thought a complete ban on any possession of combat weapons would relieve us of the need for such monitoring. But I doubt it.
If anyone wants to become an insurgent Iraq has shown them how to do it. Suicide bombs and IED's. Combat weapons are not even the way.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Dec 21, 2012 - 10:59am PT
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What stops a bad guy from having a gun is the correct question at this point.
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Donald Thompson
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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Dec 21, 2012 - 11:05am PT
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What stops a bad guy from having a gun is the correct question at this point.
A totalitarian state run by the all- knowing, all- seeing , and ever -compassionate liberal intellectual elite empowered by the government -dependent masses.
They will fix everything.
The weapons are not even the major question that will come up. Not even. We will have to consider the tradeoffs involved in the Federal government monitoring internet searches, all internet searches, to try and discover who might be getting the information they need to prepare for a slaughter.
We have to start the dialog on limiting 1st Amendment rights. The media has for too long been allowed to fill the minds of potential mass killers with unrestrained images of violence and mayhem. They are also allowed to make instant celebrities of of these killers for naked profit.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 21, 2012 - 11:09am PT
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Low information voter....let's see, that might be someone who believes in creationism and doesn't think that human caused global warming is factual. Now what party do you think such a person would vote for?
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