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atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 20, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
I think what ron meant to say was that after drinking LOTS of natural light and throwing some powerbait off the east shore, he has not caught a bass, which proves that bass don't exist in Lake Tahoe. Ron, is that accurate?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
Ron, in all reality, I might support your business venture... if you didn't insist you knew more about ecology than the scientists who spend their careers studying it, simply because you worked for $3 an hour doing fish restoration in the '70s and have pounded countless beers on a fishing boat. That's just ignorant horseshit and you know it.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
Wes, With what did i graph Tahoe with ,,i prefer to use the Paper graph i have, a Lowrance unit as its definition of size is still better than the LCD models i have. It also identifies bottom shapes very accurately as it doesnt rely on pixels for display. I can even side scan shallows as long as there is a return signal from something ,,with a movable transponder. It has a thousand foot range to ultra shallow ranges, among many other features. Paper graphs show theroclines well also..

And i wasnt pounding beers on a fishing boat. I was doing it semi pro levels competing against the top guys of the fishing industry. Fishing insanely hard and studying even harder. Good enough that NDOW wanted to use me rather than their own biologists and my skills rather than their shock boats..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
So you determined the species of minnows with a fish finder? Again, I am impressed beyond words.

Ive graphed up thousands of fish hitting clouds of minnows. Of course, not one of them a largemouth bass..

Of course not! Because you say so and you built fish habitat in the desert stocking ponds with tires back in the '70s. Almost, but not quite, exactly unlike the largest alpine lake in N America.

Thanks for enlightening us. Good luck with your business plan... I'm sure it will work out just splendid... you clearly know exactly what you are doing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
so whaut Wes,, Now your gonna tell me theres a largemouth problem clouding up liberty lake right? Competing with those pesky planted goldens?



Credit: Ron Anderson

One of the many projects of my own brain.^^ And it worked 100% as planned. And NDOW wanted me to do this instead of involving their own..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
I know nothing about liberty lake, nor do I care.

Your ass has been handed to you on this issue. Deal with it.

Wow, complete with N arrow and no scale. Stellar! Those scientists with their silly conflicting data are no match for your skillz.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
Ron-sign me up for three full crate purchases of the tasty crustaceans and a custom expedition sled.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:38pm PT



"Ron-sign me up for three full crate purchases of the tasty crustaceans and a custom expedition sled."

You may be waiting awhile. I heard Ron is the new security guard at the IHOP, and enforcing immigration problems in his mobile home park.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
pffff, HARDLY Wes.. those "scientists" even say its a GUESS

Theres reems of studies that are BEE, ESS...And even your own says "its just a guess" . 99% of the bass never left the keys, i was fishing them in the 80s... Its just more silly shite like the TRPA so loves to attach to.

But i also worked for NDOT. I KNOW how much salt was used there in my eight plus years with them. I know the concentration of mixed brine too. And from S stateline to N stateline there has been millions of pounds of salt used on that section of road alone. Salt that mixes with water and flows into Tahoe.

Hey Rick,, whaddya think eh?? Since your so polished at being Alaskan,, fishin tahoe lobsters should be a breeze!!!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
99% of the bass never left the keys

hahaha... tell me again about "percentages sometimes derived from three fish seen too"

And that salt, yeah, it dissolves in water... it is easier to measure than pH... and has a relatively short residence time in the Lake. But I'm sure you've eaten salt before, so you know everything there is to know about that subject too.


If you weren't so old I'd spend more time trying to educate you, but you are clearly a lost cause. I hope I never grow up to be an obstinate delusional fool like you.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
Yes Wes,, i recently had a conversation with my buddy - who while on a flight , noticed a lady next to him working on a SAGE grouse study she was "writing a paper" on...About the Leks and the dwindling populations around mono lake to sweetwater summit range.

Said she was keyed in on the over grazing by ranchers, and then my buddy asked her if she had seen the tremendous amounts of HORSE crap all over. She slowly said well, uu yeah there was quite a lot. He asked her if she had spoken to NDOW about their trappers and ravens being so abundant these days.. Again ,,it was a noooo,, i wasnt aware of that...

Im sure this "scientist" has written more papers,, perhaps you know her?

But she was im sure,, hired by a group with an "agenda" . Her study was focused narrowly on ONE factor but hey its "scientific" after all. Cuz she publishes "paper"..



i myself have had masters degree "foresters" identify a 30 yr old BANZAI tree as a two year old seedling that had just been planted months before.

tell me Wes, where have YOU personally , in person seen largemouth bass in tahoe.? And how large were they, males or females? and fry of ANY in the lake outside of the keys?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:58pm PT
well, there you have it... can't argue with a friend who saw a lady on a plane who was doing a study on stuff...

fuking genius man
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
Jesus guys. Can't we all just get along? Why does every thread have to be a pissing contest. Ughh....
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Dec 20, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
ron,

i get the feeling that no matter how hard you try, neither atch nor wes are going to be good customers.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
he started it
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
no Wes,, You as always, tend to turn things to shyt.

And again Where have you caught or seen for yourself largemouth bass in tahoe, size and sex and count.

you wanna flip out some study that even admits "guessing" about things, then wanna tell me i dont know jack about tahoe or fish when i was doing both long before you were born fine. but a study where the min sample was 1 to something aint gonna work.


So what do you think millions of pounds of salt have entered tahoe keeping those roads nice a dry.. Dont think that would CHANGE the shallows a little? Are freshwater fish tolerant of salt water? Last time i checked, that was a not really. Some spawn in fresh others use it following food, into brakish water. But as far as the species in tahoe, none are salt water tolerant..

Ask some of the folks in the KEYS what they thought about that all..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
I never said I saw or caught a single fish from Tahoe. I don't fish. I'm allergic to fish. Besides, that is 100% irrelevant... almost as irrelevant as your friend's random encounter with a random lady who was doing a study on something somewhere that is completely unrelated to fish in Lake Tahoe.

Stop bringing up unrelated stuff. If you have problems with the claims I have made and supported with published scientific literature, address the parts of the study you disagree with. Large mouth bass have been collected from at least 9 sites outside the Keys. Feel free to use the results from your species determining fish finder and all the pH factors you want.

You are an idiot Ron.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Dec 20, 2012 - 02:14pm PT
Who's peepee is bigger?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Dec 20, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
mine, without a doubt
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 20, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
I like that Wes is back. He knows lots of things about geology, if I remember correctly. I like to learn.

Thanks for coming back dude.
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