The Hobbit P.1 was a disappointment.

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Brian

climber

California

Dec 17, 2012 - 10:44am PT

The movie, which I saw on Friday, is an abomination that besmirches all that is good and holy.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Dec 17, 2012 - 10:57am PT

I thought it was a documentary of New Zealand life?

10b4me

Boulder climber

Somewhere on 395

Dec 17, 2012 - 11:37am PT

The runout third pitch is great.

caughtinside

Social climber

Oakland, CA

Dec 17, 2012 - 11:44am PT

Those comedians got me good. I walked in there not knowing it was a 3 part movie. After 45 minutes and I was still in the Shire I was all WTF?

Some scenes really dragged and could have used more heavy handed editing. I also didn't care for the lame attempts at humor from the trolls and the goblin king... all I could think of was Jar Jar Binks. Yeah.

But I don't want to pan the thing. It was entertaining, and if you like the whole Tolkien thing like I do its worth watching. But, it doesn't hold a candle to LOTR.

philo

Trad climber

Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2012 - 11:58am PT

I found it a disappointment also. "Like butter that has been scraped over too much bread."

Excellent point John my thoughts as well.

I am an avid Tolkien geek. Read them all many times including aloud to each of my children. And yes that includes the quite remarkable Silmarillion. In fact my 13 year old is almost done rereading the Silmarillion right now. I well understand the difference between a lengthy book and a time constrained movie but this was not a hit It was a miss. A pallid re-creation more than an creative interpretation. Different story kind of like the Steinbeck classic The old man and the taxi. That being said the best parts were the party clean up at Baggend, the Riddle game with Gollum and the incredible scenery particularly the crags and peaks.

If you like this movie more than the LOTR movies it is probably because you like the bigger is better Hollywood megaplex maddness.

Edge

Trad climber

New Durham, NH

Dec 17, 2012 - 12:33pm PT

Holy sh!t, I agree completely with Caughtinside.

I know great minds think alike, but I don't think that applies here...

philo

Trad climber

Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2012 - 12:38pm PT

You know what is was like? Like taking a Great Homeric Epic and turning it into the video game tripe of that shitty movie SPARTA. Over the top and under the value.

hossjulia

Trad climber

Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet

Dec 17, 2012 - 12:55pm PT

The title made me think the OP didn't like the first pitch of The Hobbit.
Perhaps my favorite route.

I'm going to the movie anyway.

hb81

climber

Dec 17, 2012 - 02:22pm PT

If you like what Peter Jackson did with LOTR, then you're going to like this. Simple as that.

It completely holds it's own with the rest of the series, and I actually like it better so far.

Nah, it pales in comparision. The story of The Hobbit is just way to thin to make another 3 long movies out of it.
And I have a feeling that they cut a lot of corners by using more CGI and less masks, make-up, set building etc.
That super-orc looks like straight from a video game... doesnt work.

nutjob

Gym climber

Berkeley, CA

Dec 17, 2012 - 02:28pm PT

I couldn't get through the Silmarillion when I read those books in junior high. I really liked the Hobbit and LOTR, but that Silmarillion was like reading a history book or Genesis from the bible. As a junior high kid, I just couldn't see the point of studying a bunch of boring stuff that wasn't even real in the first place!

I did get into Middle Earth Role Playing games, sort of a spin-off of Dungeons and Dragons set in the world of LOTR. That fleshed out a lot of creatures and places, but at least it was in the context of having fun and not like reading a plotless imaginary history lesson.

Maybe if I went back now I would see it differently? I have a harder time moving it up the priority list of how to spend my time now though.

ydpl8s

Trad climber

Santa Monica, California

Dec 17, 2012 - 02:38pm PT

I haven't seen the movie, now I'm not sure about going....but Zardoz! now there was a movie! Sean with a ponytail

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Dec 17, 2012 - 02:40pm PT

Thought it was way, way better than no Hobbit movies at all.

My main complaint with Jackson overall is around his shabby non-treatment of Tom Bombadil and I would hope someone sees fit to do him due justice at some point.

Nate D

climber

San Francisco

Dec 17, 2012 - 03:40pm PT

I enjoyed it.
It was a bit too over the top dramatic/epic in parts, IMO, but that's Jackson for you. The scale of some scenes was a bit much - and that seemed more appropriate in LOTR, but for some reason I wasn't expecting it in the Hobbit, until the final battle perhaps - which, knowing Jackson, will comprise the entire 3rd film.

I missed Tom Bombadil as well in LOTR, and kinda wish more movies were made of the trilogy to get it all in. So in that regard, I like that the Hobbit isn't skipping much, so far.

Alan Rubin

climber

Amherst,MA.

Dec 17, 2012 - 04:29pm PT

I saw the film yesterday afdternoon and enjoyed it very much. I can understand that others may have had various expectations, which are normal when favorite books become movies, and were then disappointed when the actual movie did not meet those expectations.Personally (and such feelings are always very individual) I thought that it was a very good effort. I enjoyed the "add ons" that tied the story a bit more to the LOTR story, even though the purist in me simltaneously cringed a bit. I also enjoyed some of the humorous touches---I particularly enjoyed the scene of the dwarves coping with the elves' vegetarian meal during the stop at Rivendell--a type of experience that a number of us have endured. Another poster criticized the background scenery, and in certain aspects it was a bit disappointing (in this aspect the Rivendell scene was not as good as I would have liked), but the scenery in much of the second half was stunning New Zealand at it's best.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Dec 17, 2012 - 05:21pm PT

I thought he was the most interesting character of the lot.

Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Dec 17, 2012 - 05:40pm PT

Don Whillans was once given a copy of the Lord of the Rings by Dougal Haston, to read on the way to Annapurna base camp. Whillans gave it a try, but returned it the next day. His comment? "F*#kin' fairies."

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Dec 17, 2012 - 06:27pm PT

I want to see Tom Baker (the Dr Who with the scarf) as Tom Bombadil

guyman

Social climber

Moorpark, CA.

Dec 17, 2012 - 06:29pm PT

P1 of the hobbit is OK , but it is sort of lacking for pro. 5.6 and pretty run out.

P2 ... give it to the tall leader, its easy if you can reach the good holds, but a nightmare for your 5.2 GF.

P3 is pretty secure, with a exposed hanging belay.

P4 short and to the top.

I have always loved this climb, finnish at a high point in TM with great views.

4 stars out of 5.