paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Dec 12, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
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damn liberal media - next thing you know we'll be talking about the shitty air and water we are leaving the kids ;-)
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Dec 12, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
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The movie is brilliant, succeeds on four different levels. And along the way it manages to answer some obvious questions, give a sense of time and scale, lets you judge for yourself between the scientists and Fox News. Even mentions in passing where the Titanic's iceberg probably came from.
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Dec 12, 2012 - 10:30pm PT
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Thanks for posting that amazing clip. Throughout the clip I kept imagining what it would feel like to have the ice break up under me while traversing a large ice field. What a nightmare!
I don't often go to the theater to watch movies (I prefer the comfort of my own home) but I'll definitely watch this movie at the theater.
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The user formerly known as stzzo
climber
Sneaking up behind you
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Dec 12, 2012 - 10:43pm PT
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DMT, it's ginormous.
All other Bay Area denizens: I think the movie is still playing at the California Theater in Berkeley. Definitely worth seeing.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
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Dec 12, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
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Throughout the clip I kept imagining what it would feel like to have the ice break up under me while traversing a large ice field. What a nightmare!
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Eric
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 12, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
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Yeah.....we NEVER had glacial calving before Al Gore.
Conservatives refuse to believe humans contributed to Climate Change unless we suggest that Al Gore caused it, and then it becomes plausible
Some scientists are predicting arctic ice will be gone as early as 2015/16. That would lead to a huge methane release tipping point as well.
Even though that particular ice won't raise sea level, melting ice in greenland will.
Bad news for anyone living at sea level not to mention Santa is screwed
Peace
Karl
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 12, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
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observing the dying of a living planet
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 12, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
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observing the dying of a living planet
The planet will be just fine, it's Humans (and animals) that face death
Peace
karl
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Dec 13, 2012 - 12:15am PT
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" Some scientists are predicting arctic ice will be gone as early as 2015/16. That would lead to a huge methane release tipping point as well."
PLEASE...! What are they sell'in methane powered generators? LOL
Is melting ice a show of death? Isn,t Frozen water a form of sustained
death? Flowing water provides life..
The ONLY thing that will be a demise to the planet is; BS in the form of
the statement above.
In that case i have a methane generator i,ll sell ya.
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jlnclimbs
climber
Apple Valley,CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 04:20am PT
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Silver
Gym climber
Pumpkin Rock
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Dec 13, 2012 - 05:46am PT
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Always makes me laugh when people think we don't have an effect but makes me laugh harder when people just flat out think its all because of us.
Sure we're part of the problem but in the grand scheme of things we are pretty insignificant.
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Dec 13, 2012 - 05:55am PT
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Sure we're part of the problem but in the grand scheme of things we are pretty insignificant.
I call total bullshit on this statement. What a fukin easy out. Yeah yeah we're all very insignificant blah blah....
Tell that to our next generation. I know if I was them and was handed a sh#t sandwich by my parents just so they could avoid the anguish of evolving I'd invent a time machine so I could go back and kick their self centered asses.
Insignificant. You sound like the Cheif.
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:06am PT
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Intense
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Malemute
Ice climber
the ghost
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:11am PT
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That glacier breakup is a good example of a tipping point.
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Silver
Gym climber
Pumpkin Rock
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:20am PT
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Bruce you put more meaning into that than I did is the situation we create in our control? Of course and should we do everything possible to make sure we have as little impact as possible? Of course
Can a continental plate shift and a wobble on our axis wipe us out over the next thousand years even if we do everything we can to reverse our bad behaviors? Of course!
That's my point Bruce and I by all means care what the marbles condition is when my little one is handed the key to the planet.
That is an impressive display of calving and by all means cragmans fault for his huge fossil fuel consumption, ;)
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:36am PT
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All other Bay Area denizens: I think the movie is still playing at the California Theater in Berkeley. Definitely worth seeing.
I was lucky enough to see it there, on the big screen. One unexpected level where the movie succeeds is art photography. Several nighttime sequences are breathtaking: we watch backlit ice formations while stars wheel and the northern lights writhe overhead.
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:41am PT
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Its a cop out. Worse yet, it plays directly into the hands of those who could give a fuk.
Of course we'll get nailed by a meteorite some day. However, there's quite a good chance it aint going to happen while my kids are on this planet, or their kids or even their kids. If we have such a cynical and lassiez faire attitude to the future why not just dump your used oil in the creek?
Bottom line? At this stage in the game only a complete moron or as#@&%e (possibly both) still denies the cause (overwhelming primary cause ) and highly signifcant effect of global warming, and the quite logical forecasts for the near future.
I realize you're just pointing out what you percieve as alarmism on both sides, but how you are weighting the significance is as logical as a Fair and Balanced Fox News.
You know what makes me laugh? How anybody can so easily draw conclusions 180 degrees opposite to such a strongly supported concensus of expert opinion with such apparent confidence of their own woefully lacking ability to judge. That isn't the red flag here? Al Gores big mansion is the real problem?
You want to know what the problem is? People are stupid and damn proud of it. Just ask Werner.
A surprising number of them actually run this boat:
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/12/13/Canadian-Conservatives-Education/
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:44am PT
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from what I've read, the methane release tipping point is really REALLY bad...yet so few people even know what it is...
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jlnclimbs
climber
Apple Valley,CA
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Dec 13, 2012 - 06:49am PT
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More than 80% othe the world's scientists agree global warming is caused by humans. Also , Polar Bears will be extinct within forty years at the current rate.
donate to Earthjustice.org " because the earth needs a good lawyer."
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