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DMBARN

Trad climber
Modesto
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 12, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
Credit: DMBARN

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/46101/cosmonaut+returns+from+space+with+extraordinary+image+of+mt+everest/

Do you think Chaz could get this shot?.........

Regards,
Doug
socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Dec 12, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
Very cool.

Charles
RP3

Big Wall climber
El Portal/Chapel Hill
Dec 12, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
That is fantastic!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 12, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
Nice! If you look REALLEEE close, youll see our camps at SOE!!!theres a somewhat neked girl next to the cook tent as you can clearly see!;-)
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 12, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
The red-haired girl? Smokin!
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Dec 12, 2012 - 08:41pm PT

Wow!
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Dec 13, 2012 - 12:44am PT
i'd hit that...
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 01:07am PT
Can someone with a knowledge of the area and good photoshop skills add a few pointers to the image such as the South Col, North Col, Western Cym, Rongbuk Glacier, Lhotse, Nuptse. Maybe it just that it's late, but I am having trouble finding all the famous landmarks.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 02:00am PT
I'd do it but there isn't much data in that file (81Kb) to work with - pretty low grade.
The f-ing Rooskies didn't let us have the good file.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 02:32am PT
I can't find any "Sasan Kangari".... the internet.... who knows?

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/10/15827650-spaceflier-looks-down-on-high-peaks

Some of the highest mountains in the world were far below Russian cosmonaut Yuri Malenchenko when he took this picture a month ago from the International Space Station. Now Malenchenko has come back down to Earth, but the picture has been getting sky-high attention from the Twitterverse — in part because of a debate over what it shows.

Peter Caltner, a.k.a. @PC0101, put the picture into his Twitpic feed on Saturday, calling it an outer-space view of Mount Everest. NASA astronaut Ron Garan — a recent space station resident known on Twitter as @Astro_Ron — picked up on the pic with a tweet of his own. "I never got a good shot of Mt. Everest from space," he wrote. In a follow-up, Garan explained to The Atlantic's Rebecca J. Rosen why he missed out on that Everest snapshot.

Since then, folks who are familiar with the area have tweeted that the picture shows a different range of mountains. "This is ... Sasan Kangari — near India, Pakistan and Tibet border," Phalano reported.

"So, definitely not Everest," Kunda Dixit wrote back. "Whew. My reputation was on the line."
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 02:36am PT
Looks, weak. I'd tube down that.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 03:18am PT
Its not Everest. No Lhotse, Nuptse ridge. No Makalu nearby.

http://twitpic.com/bk9tpf says
The combined efforts of locals as @phalano @UjjwalAcharya @kundadixit and @NASA found that this is Sasen Mustagh (Kangri) (Xixapangma in Chinese) in Tibet

But not Xixapangma near Everest. Its here, see the long glacier:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.845556,77.785&ll=34.820568,77.843628&spn=0.57948,1.338959&t=p&z=10
QITNL

climber
Dec 13, 2012 - 03:29am PT
Here's the best version I could find:

Credit: Yuri Malenchenko

Looks like one of those maps you see at a Visitors Center.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Dec 13, 2012 - 03:53am PT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saser_Kangri

i wanna go

Saser Kangri II - Piolets d'or 2012
http://vimeo.com/38352356
Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
Dec 13, 2012 - 04:03am PT
Cool photo.

Took a look at this thread earlier and bhilden’s question got me thinking. When I took a closer look at the “Everest” photo from the space station, things just didn’t make sense and the shapes weren’t right. So, I took a look at (the real) Everest on Google Earth (forget the maps…) and the space station photo didn’t match any angles of Everest as viewed on Google Earth – not even close.

The photo was taken last month, and given that Everest is in the northern hemisphere, the photo view has to be looking somewhat northward, given the direction of the shadows. So the photo view can’t be looking south, from Tibet.

Saser Kangri, elevation 25,170 ft. (according to Google Earth), is in the area between Pakistan, India, and Tibet.


Here’s a Google Earth view, compared to the space station photo below. Note the white forked pattern in the glacier in the upper section of both images.








Edit:
Riley, your mega link kinda jacks up the page. Try this one instead…

http://anupkumarchaturvedi.com/0001_279.jpg

or…



Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
Dec 13, 2012 - 04:17am PT
Maybe, maybe not!

Thanks for taking care of the link.
gimmeslack

Trad climber
VA
Dec 13, 2012 - 09:35am PT
Having just gotten back from a month in the Khumbu, i felt like the maps were pretty clear in my head - so the photo was kicking my butt! Truth is I was embarrassed to ask since i was totally lost!!

Saser Kangri!! Thanks for the G-Earth Mineral ;-)
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Dec 13, 2012 - 09:40am PT
Looks like a zit.
local

Social climber
eldorado springs
Dec 13, 2012 - 11:20am PT
This is the definitive view

From directly overhead.  Nepal on the top, Tibet on the bottom
From directly overhead. Nepal on the top, Tibet on the bottom
Credit: local
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Dec 13, 2012 - 11:23am PT
Looks pretty easy, what's all the huhbub?

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 13, 2012 - 11:38am PT
just like them Rooskies to knott know where they are at!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 13, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#277818
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 13, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
He was off by about 700miles. So at 18000mph it seems he took the picture about 2 minutes and 20 seconds early.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 13, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
luckily he didnt navigate HIMSELF to the space station...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 13, 2012 - 04:52pm PT
heh yeah it's tricky stuff. Try finding Everest on google earth by spinning the earth randomly turning off all markers and not orienting north to the top. Throw some clouds in, give yourself a 500+ mile field of view and see if you can pick out the right peak within 2 minutes which is about all the time you will have to get the shot once it is even viewable.
TYeary

Social climber
State of decay
Dec 13, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
Could be Sazer Kangri, but diffenetly not Everest. The surrounding topography isn't even close. Niether are the lowlands surrounding the massive.
TY
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Dec 13, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Do you think Chaz could get this shot?.........

None of this would be a question about what the frikkin' mountain is if Chaz had taken it. That, and you 'd be able to see his dog :-)
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 13, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
Here's an annotated photo.
Details worked out from Google Earth. Using the same perspective as the photo
There is a different perspective angle between Google Earth and the original photo. This makes it hard to line all objects up in "correct" relation to each other.
Photo annotated by High Traverse
Photo annotated by High Traverse
Credit: HighTraverse
Saser Kangri Region from Google Earth. View approx from SW
Saser Kangri Region from Google Earth. View approx from SW
Credit: HighTraverse
Thanks to kunlun_shan for figuring it out.
And Wikipedia giving the coordinates of Saser Kangri II East
FA Mark Richey, Steve Swenson and Freddie Wilkinson on August 24, 2011
Way to go guys. Goes to show there are still tall unclimbed summits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saser_Kangri
Edit:
Odd that Yuri Malenchenko was that far off in his coordinates, given that Everest is to the East beyond the top right of this photo and the camera viewpoint is SW of the photo. I suppose he didn't write them down at the time he took the photo. Of course this was his personal handheld camera. An "official" camera would have been linked to the Space Station coordinate system and would have gotten the actual ground location spot on.
Given the camera viewpoint and the ISS orbits from West to East, he would have taken this photo prior to being over the Everest region.

Still, a great and interesting photo.
If anyone knows Ritchie, or Swenson or Wilkinson send them a link to this SuperTopo thread.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 13, 2012 - 06:49pm PT
NASA finally figured it out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20714990
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