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Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 02:39am PT
. Hey Riley,

I've been your 30-40 below ideal worker many times so give it up about the talk and e

Well of course you have....why you being defensive?
I'm with ya...
You work very hard....lots of people do..

I'm just trying to help the guy out there who maybe wants to change his life for the better by grabbing the bull by the horns....there is great opportunity they are not aware of..

These jobs are kick ass - they are not some third world sweat shop or mine job...


Most folks will find a reason to still not work..won't they?

A few won't
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 7, 2012 - 02:41am PT
HAHAHA !

Bored on a slow night in the ER ?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 7, 2012 - 02:46am PT
And to keep it obvious, Riley is right about some opportunity up here for skilled trades to find employment outside of the States.

Do apply, but don't wear blinders.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 02:48am PT
. Reach for the bottom has become the standard every where though and after that, what's the new normal going to be e


What ya mean?

These are great opportunities - you can and will be a rich man if you want taking these jobs.

This has been the way of the world for ever.
Irish coming to America and making their richs while their freinds starve in the potato famine.

Or like my dad...working as a carpenter in small town Holland since he was 15 - immigration to Canada when he was 19 and starting his own company - retired from Syncrude at 55...

I mean ...go for it

Greatest thing is you don't have to go bankrupt if you get injured either...

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 7, 2012 - 02:53am PT
Riley,

The opportunities and the work landscape are rapidly changing. It's great your father had the good fortune when he did but the reality is going to be less pay and more work.

Not a heartbreaker by any means but it is a sea change concerning standards and dignity.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 03:11am PT
Maybe some of the contracting type stuff?
I dunno..
You think they are trying to hire people from out of country to pay less

Got a few.buddies working in Saskatchewan ...not sure how they are doing now..

It's all not as good as Fort Mac I suppose..

Bur it's still canada! LOL



My entire family and freinds still work in Canada in big industry for Shell, Syncrude, Suncor, etc..

It's takes two electricians to change a light bulb...
..
It's not Somalia...
Or even close to a right to work state like Texas...
It's the greatest country in the world

My buddies who flunked out of grade 9 and are making 200 thousand a year and only working half the year think they have is bad also..
21 days off every second month and 7 on 7 off...

That said - not all jobs are created equal...
But these big industry jobs in Canada are cake compared to anything anywhere in the world.


What sucks is making 5 bucks an hour swinging a hammer and working all day, 7 days a week, with no medical, retirement, no breaks, no vacation, no future and its 110 degrees outside...like they do here in Texas..

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 7, 2012 - 03:31am PT
Too true and I hope the hammer swingers in your locale the best but Tornillo Texas is more than a place of mind.

That standard has already crept into Vancouver. It's like the killer bees of opportunity and economics, relentlessly heading North. A lot of people cushioned from the upcoming reality say, "what's their problem? No real education or prospects, what did they expect"?

the shocker is this is coming for all trades and professions.

Everyone complains about the guy in Mumbai on the phone trying to help the Westerner with their computer, while the Westerner complains about the helper's English.

The guy in Mumbai has the skills and works for way less... So do the math.





RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 7, 2012 - 03:54am PT
My buddies who flunked out of grade 9 and are making 200 thousand a year and only working half the year think they have is bad also..
21 days off every second month and 7 on 7 off...


So true, growing up in Kamloops most ppl either knock a chick up, move to the coast or go to the mac after high school. I guess a few go learn more books & stuff too, but it blows me away some of the cash they make up there & their schedules as well = lots of free time! Sadly though i'd say more than 50% have maxed out lines of credit, are fat, have at least a coke problem, & a F450 with the biggest tires imaginable with a sled in the back towing a travel trailer with another trailer attached that has a sea doo on it!! I got some buddies though who made good calls & at least financially are pretty stylin'. It could be a good gig for a climber so long as there's somewhere to hang a fingerboard.

Some really good posts on this thread.


Canadians don't want imported workers making less and having lower standards for the obvious effect it will have on citizens and for the danger faced by the guests that citizens would justifiably refuse.

Canada was built on immigration and the work provided. There are unbelievable examples of death from employment in our history, especially concerning Chinese worker building our rail roads.

Industry is waiting for their chance to call the labour movement and anyone involved with civil rights concerning imported labour, racist.

As far as I'm concerned the foreign workers program legalizes exploitation. If workers are brought to Canada, they should be ensured equivalent rights and pay as Canadians.

If you are unemployed in Canada you are to stupid to work or to lazy to work..
That is why they are going elsewhere..

There is work everywhere in Canada..
Of course smoking weed all day and playing video games won't get ya a job.




Hey i smoke weed & play video games sometimes & i have a sweet job!

I bet without the job i could play way more video games.......The rest of your post is spot on though.

Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 03:58am PT
Very interesting....very very interesting...

Ya..my BFF and I have been talking about this all week.
He is a film producer in Vancouver and has run into big problems because of a subcontracter outsourcing work to India and the work is really messed up.
So he has had to talk to India all week and has learned that just about all the margins he has been working with have been way off because everyone has been using foreign workers
He considers it unethical...tries to run an ethical business...
But like everyone..he is in big trouble...
The world is changing so fast...


This entire conversation actually ties in with our other conversations on mulitnationals, plutocrats and scum sucking, sell out, right wingers in Canada and the USA.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 7, 2012 - 03:58am PT
Just make sure you aren't a hippy if you plan on heading up that way, & if you are......keep it to yourself!!

Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 04:02am PT
. So true, growing up in Kamloops most ppl either knock a chick up, move to the coast or go to the mac after high school. I guess a few go learn more books & stuff too, but it blows me away some of the cash they make up there & their schedules as well = lots of free time! Sadly though i'd say more than 50% have maxed out lines of credit, are fat, have at least a coke problem, & a F450 with the biggest tires imaginable with a sled in the back towing a travel trailer with another trailer attached that has a sea doo on it!!

Wtf !
Did we grow up together?
Lol

I havent been back home to Mcmurray in over 14 years since I was 28 years old - last time I went up for a wedding and ended up staying for two months instead of going on a big Central America trip. Coke piles the size of mountains and everyone drinking and and screwing their lives away...same sh#t we had all been doing since we were 13 together although the coke was new....when I left tha last time I swore off the place - and became a climber - ...never looked back...went about 13 years with out any serious partying.....been great....those guys are all still partying.....if they weren't all superman they would have been dead a long time ago....LOL...most is them with records and can't even travel..

My Sis has been telling me the latest thing to catch on with the richer doucher freinds is the whole jersey shore guido thing...f*#king losers ..LOL

I got a few good friends with 25 years in at one of the big planets....a few million in money and assets and they are traveling the world every month - retirement at 50
But that is rare.....
And they have spent their lives up there...LOL...yuck..
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 7, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
+1 Reilly, haha yep sounds about right!
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Dec 7, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
Had never seen that Fubar stuff...hillarious...
Watched a bunch of them last night...

Love the House Wrecker
I have literally been at that party many times as a kid..
Pretty much the culture I grew up in to a T....LOL
bmacd

Trad climber
100% Canadian
Dec 7, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
Riley - Don't kid yourself - you have it very good - stay south and stay happy bro .... wish me luck escaping to the USA one of these days, like you did.

best regards,
Bruce
Rolfr

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:18am PT
I saw a similiar clip on the CBC where they are recruting construction workers in Sothern California, My favorite sound bite was from an elderly gent who admired Canadians and said " and I don't mind working in the cold"

Ha, Ha, Ha !

Seriously, the lumber industry is poised to quadruple production, with no where the needed qualified people.

Bring your touques and mukluks.
John M

climber
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:29am PT
Seriously, the lumber industry is poised to quadruple production, with no where the needed qualified people.

I wonder how sustainable that is. I drove back from Alaska in 1978 and was shocked at the clear cutting. I know Canada is big, but what I saw was astonishing in scope.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:55am PT
Sustainable isn't always what the powers that be up north are gunning for John.
Rolfr

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Dec 10, 2012 - 12:32am PT
Of course the job market in lumber is not sustainable, nothing ever is! Logging practices are another topic.

With the US recovery and Chinese demand, there is a growing market for Canadian soft wood, along with an opportunity for employment and profit, coupled with a lack of skilled Canadian workers.

Opportunity abounds in the north for those who arenít afraid of hard work and know how to keep their noses clean. Yes the labour market has changed since my father immigrated in 1957 and since I started my own business in the 70/80ís but what fueled our success was that we saw opportunity instead of obstacles.

I just had 2 employees come back from Fort Mac after 3 days, where they could have made 10 grand for three weeks work, but they came home early because they didnít like camp life, two thoroughly entitled princesses. That is precisely why corporations bring in foreign workers who can actually pass drug tests and show up for work.

I didnít grow up in Kamloops, but the east end of Vancouver where the choices and lifestyles where similar, and most of the success stories were immigrants who didnít have a sense of entitlement, just look at the new emerging wealthy in the Indo Canadian community, and yes there is exploitation of workers in that sector but it still a great example. The opportunities have changed, but are still out there.

Jim, lets go climbing, we both spent enough time with our noses to the grindstone and old codgers can still crank !

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 10, 2012 - 12:46am PT
I'm in Rolf ! gf and I had a little ski this morning and didn't talk about work once.

But... This is an example of how weird things are right now: Tomorrow I'm being flown out to Calgary, returning in the evening.

Why ?

To polish out some scratched Corian counter tops in a new coffee shop. This amounts to about 2 hours of actual work hanging on to an orbital sander. WTF ? Is sanding something smooth some kind of crazy skill not taught in high school shop class anymore ?
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Damn u must be good with the sander Jim!

Great post too Rolf. The Indo Canadian community is smart & their way of just getting it done & pitching in to the same pot works well in our individual oriented "mememe" way of life & work. Just get to work, u cant count on winning lotto max princess. Your points about seeing opportunity over obstacles I liked.
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