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Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Dec 8, 2012 - 03:18am PT
I saw a similiar clip on the CBC where they are recruting construction workers in Sothern California, My favorite sound bite was from an elderly gent who admired Canadians and said " and I don't mind working in the cold"

Ha, Ha, Ha !

Seriously, the lumber industry is poised to quadruple production, with no where the needed qualified people.

Bring your touques and mukluks.
John M

Dec 8, 2012 - 03:29am PT
Seriously, the lumber industry is poised to quadruple production, with no where the needed qualified people.

I wonder how sustainable that is. I drove back from Alaska in 1978 and was shocked at the clear cutting. I know Canada is big, but what I saw was astonishing in scope.

Dec 8, 2012 - 03:55am PT
Sustainable isn't always what the powers that be up north are gunning for John.

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Dec 10, 2012 - 12:32am PT
Of course the job market in lumber is not sustainable, nothing ever is! Logging practices are another topic.

With the US recovery and Chinese demand, there is a growing market for Canadian soft wood, along with an opportunity for employment and profit, coupled with a lack of skilled Canadian workers.

Opportunity abounds in the north for those who aren’t afraid of hard work and know how to keep their noses clean. Yes the labour market has changed since my father immigrated in 1957 and since I started my own business in the 70/80’s but what fueled our success was that we saw opportunity instead of obstacles.

I just had 2 employees come back from Fort Mac after 3 days, where they could have made 10 grand for three weeks work, but they came home early because they didn’t like camp life, two thoroughly entitled princesses. That is precisely why corporations bring in foreign workers who can actually pass drug tests and show up for work.

I didn’t grow up in Kamloops, but the east end of Vancouver where the choices and lifestyles where similar, and most of the success stories were immigrants who didn’t have a sense of entitlement, just look at the new emerging wealthy in the Indo Canadian community, and yes there is exploitation of workers in that sector but it still a great example. The opportunities have changed, but are still out there.

Jim, lets go climbing, we both spent enough time with our noses to the grindstone and old codgers can still crank !

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 10, 2012 - 12:46am PT
I'm in Rolf ! gf and I had a little ski this morning and didn't talk about work once.

But... This is an example of how weird things are right now: Tomorrow I'm being flown out to Calgary, returning in the evening.

Why ?

To polish out some scratched Corian counter tops in a new coffee shop. This amounts to about 2 hours of actual work hanging on to an orbital sander. WTF ? Is sanding something smooth some kind of crazy skill not taught in high school shop class anymore ?

Dec 10, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Damn u must be good with the sander Jim!

Great post too Rolf. The Indo Canadian community is smart & their way of just getting it done & pitching in to the same pot works well in our individual oriented "mememe" way of life & work. Just get to work, u cant count on winning lotto max princess. Your points about seeing opportunity over obstacles I liked.

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Dec 10, 2012 - 03:15am PT
This thread has taught me more about contemporary Canada than I could've imagined, and I have actually seen Fubar... in a hotel room in san diego....

Social climber
Butterfly Town
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
Someone looking forward to working during the next summer season in Yosemite might be interested in this opportunity:

Yosemite Close-Up Tours
P. O. Box 2312, Mariposa, CA 95338

Yosemite Driver-Guides Wanted!

Summer tour guides will lead nature & history tours in Yosemite National Park. Work will begin as part-time, temporary. Pay begins at $15 per hour for 8-hour days.

Minimum qualifications:

• At least 21 years of age;
• Possess a California Class B drivers license with a Passenger Endorsement;
• Possess a clean driving record for the last 3 years;
• Possess current training in CPR and Basic First Aid or more advanced training;
• Be willing to submit to and able to pass random drug testing;
• Possess excellent verbal communication skills combined with an upbeat, positive, and friendly personality;
• Once committed to work certain days, must be reliable and punctual;
• Must have reliable phone communication at home;

Desirable Qualifications:

• Possess thorough knowledge of the human and natural history of Yosemite National Park.
• Find genuine enjoyment, sharing knowledge and personal experiences with people of all ages and nationalities in Yosemite
• Have previous experience leading groups in outdoor settings.
• Possess specialized or focused knowledge in such areas as bird-watching, rock-climbing, geology, Yosemite ecosystems; ethno-botany; etc.
• Speak one or more foreign languages.
• Present a clean, well-groomed appearance.
• Reside in or be willing to relocate to Mariposa, CA for the summer.

We will be pleased to train guides in the natural and human history of Yosemite and offer free tours to applicants, so they can learn first-hand about the kind of tours that we offer and what would be expected of one of our guides.

If you apply and don’t possess the required driver’s license, we can provide the use of one of our vans to practice driving and to take the driving test which would probably take place on a business day in Fresno. Please plan on passing the written tests and allowing at least 45 days from passing the written exams before taking the Driving Test. The DMV has a long waiting list for commercial driving tests.

If you are interested, please submit a letter of interest and a written resume as email attachments to If you have questions, please submit them in your letter.

Thank you.

Mountain climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 02:32am PT
Latest on Chinese miners being recruited for jobs in Canada:

see for full story

Chinese miners asked to pay for Canadian jobs
CBC investigation finds recruiters offering jobs to inexperienced miners
By Lisa Laventure, CBC News

Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:10 PM PT

Labour brokers may be charging Chinese miners up to $16,000 for the chance to work in Canadian mines as temporary foreign workers, a CBC investigation has found.
The National visited a prominent recruitment agency in Beijing carrying hidden cameras. Investigators posing as miners learned that workers with minimal mining experience are being offered positions in Canadian gold, copper and potash mines.
Recruiters said that, once working in Canada, miners would be paid no less than $10 per hour. Permanent workers in Canada’s underground and surface mines are paid on average $25 to $30 per hour.
Investigators also learned that workers are asked to pay a deposit of several thousand dollars to secure a spot in a Canadian mine. The agency said that the remainder of the $16,000 fee is taken directly from the miner’s paycheque until paid in full...

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Dec 11, 2012 - 02:36am PT
Too much work, not enough time off.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 11, 2012 - 02:56am PT
Even our fundamentalist evangelical accountant Prime Minister Stephen Harper, has stepped back expediently from the labour expedience of the Chinese Miner scandal.

It is an attempt at a variation on traditional human trafficing. That it's obvious to the GOD WILL JUDGE US IN THE END crowd who currently hold power, is a big example of ethical pause.

To be clear, I have no problem with any one finding opportunity for a better life any where they can find it.

Slavery is wrong though, no matter how palatably it is presented to the locals.

We are in the midst of a media barrage about the need for labour to fill the positions of the retiring Baby Boomers. There was never a crisis if industry had supported the youth coming up through apprenticeship or at least basic on the job training.

All the gangsters and PlayStation wannabes are the byproduct of market success without labour (people) growth. This was some kind of economic triumph a few recessions past but has become the chickens who come home to roost, steal, extort,deal and bully the neighborhood.

It's some big surprise that international crime organizations see an opportunity ?

Mountain climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 03:06am PT
Too much work, not enough time off

You just want to climb, more than earning less than minimum wage :-)

Trad climber
Dec 24, 2012 - 02:00am PT
i'm rich!! you guys should see how much pot ash i have, like buckets full. cormier's got some too so i guess we are set! wooohoooo!

Dec 24, 2012 - 03:30am PT
^^^My garage floor is covered in it too, never knew it was worth anything. Maybe I'll stop sweeping it out every Sunday.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 24, 2012 - 10:28am PT
I retired because work used to make me hurt.
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