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stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
I posted some of what we are discussing over on MP.com. They posted a link to that web Chipin thing there, too.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
I will not donate to that site either, but will donate if there is a get together this spring.

stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
I checked rockclimbing.com to see if the Chipin was there, but it doesn't appear to be. I sent Peter Stokes a message about the link he posted on MP.com to see where he got it from.
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
Everbody just chillout, Locker already is, so everybody else. . .I have no idea about the chipin link, it doesn't come from me. So, instead of a funraiser let's just call it a Party for JL this Spring at JT.

So that said, I hope that this increases the, confusion. . .


Edit, I can't change the Title of the thread, and this one is getting, good. . .
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
There's no confusion really.

1. We have a legitimate event in the planning stages that has real people that can be seen in person taking your $$$.

2. We have a Chipin thing of undetermined origin that we are examining a little closer to see what's up.

[UPDATE] It's looking more and more legitimate. Got in touch with the person that created it. We should hear from Rick A in a bit it sounds like.
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
Spoke to John last night. Was alert and in reasonable spirits, but will be in the hospital a while longer for more work on his leg.

No one should send any money to the mystery website unless John himself endorses the idea. The internet is full of scams and until we get proof of authenticity, it should be treated like an email from a Nigerian prince promising that you'll make a fortune if you just wire transfer to him a small sum.

I like the idea of a party, if for no other reason than to get the crew together and celebrate the beginning of John's recovery, and that we all have survived for another year.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Dec 9, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
When Layton needed some help, I just wrote a couple of good checks straight to his name. No baloney with a middleman.

Now I have some Layton Kor autographs.

My knee surgery was a fairly complicated procedure, but it was only an arthroscopic followed by a single replacement and graft procedure. 3 days in the hospital and then I was home on a walker for a while. '

Total: 85 grand. Medicine is a racket. I have good insurance through my wife because I am self employed, so they covered almost all of it.

I noticed on the bills that half of it went away with the "provider write-off." That means that the insurance company only paid so much for each procedure and that the hospital wrote off half the costs for that sweet insurance.

I asked a doc friend about this, and if you are not insured, you won't get that provider write off and be stuck with the full 85 grand. No kidding. You fall and break your ankle now and you have to sell your house.

When the bills come due, I hope John realizes that in many ways he steers the climbing community to this day. So we all owe him for that.

I'm afraid that this will end up costing over 200 grand. For a broken ankle. No kidding. If any of us have the means to make a dent in that, just write a check here in a few months when the bills start coming in. No in kind gifts. Cash is much better.

I know he doesn't want it and didn't ask for it, but if he needs it we should consider it. Being a self employed writer is almost impossible to get decent insurance for.

Medical costs are so nuts in this country that even a guy like Largo could take a big hit over a broken ankle. It used to not be like this.

One good thing is that Largo may go through a huge spurt of writing to make some real coin. Being the best climbing writer out there will be a boon to climbers of all ages. Forever. Largo's writing will long outlive him.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 9, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
Some positive vibes to the man and the best wishes for his recovery!

On the other side of the dam I have five of his books in my library. I hope he doesn't have to deal with this money-raising mess.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:03pm PT
That's one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written.

TFPU!
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
OK, in contact with Krista right now.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
ChipIn is just a widget gateway to paypal and whatever addy the set up person used at paypal.

My spidey sense says it is shady and that is why I was suspect way back on the first page. I hope it is on the up and up, but hey, being gullible is not one of my long suits.

Now if Bullwinkle or some other real dude had his name on it, then yeah, great and easy way to buff out the big man with some moolah. But so far I'm not seeing that.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
Kristin Goodsitt is a "friend" of John's on his facebook page. Yes, he has 1,000s. :) Doesn't necessarily make it legit, but thought I'd toss that out there...
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 9, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
I'm thinking next time El Jefe Largo snaps out of his opiate induced haze, he at least says "yeah I know her and she's ok", or "WTF? ...Never heard of her".

That should clear it up.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
OK, I sent Krista a FB message asking for more information. Also contacted a few people who are also Facebook friends with her to see if they can vouch for her.

OK, John is having dinner with Krista tonight. This is her response.

"Krista Goodsitt

Hey there, John is aware of it he just didn't realize exactly what it was and how big it was going to get. I'm having dinner w him tonight and am going to explain it to him and see what he wants done with it. I will close it depending on his wishes. All the money donated is going straight to Largo, we decided to start it when we realized he is going to be in the hospital over a week.

His daughters also got emergency flights from out of the country, so the fund was set up to help with odds and ends and co pays and such. I have no problem posting all of the donated funds and the final check to John right now the funds are in a pay pal account that I set up. I totally understand that lots of chipins are fraudulent so any questions people have I will gladly answer. I hope this helps explain it. Did I answer all your questions?"

Fast response on this, which is great.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 06:41pm PT
I've been talking to Krista for hours now. I think you can relax a bit. Rick A might come by and say something.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 9, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
I've been talking to Krista for hours now.

I talked to a Nigerian once for 37 hours straight and still never saw my 80# of gold bars I was supposed to be getting for my $61.00. ;)

Hope it all works out and it was a good test run for the next ChipIn event.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
Ha ha ha. I know, I know.
jstan

climber
Dec 9, 2012 - 07:47pm PT
Who would have ever thought we would use the transistor to do this to ourselves?
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 9, 2012 - 08:00pm PT
Kristin Goodsitt is a "friend" of John's
yeah, and she is an fb friend of Bullwinkle, and Timmy O'Neill
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Dec 9, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
It's really a sad state of affairs for well-meaning individuals trying to help a friend, having to worry about some bottom fishing pond slime trying to make a shady buck! I've never met JL, but he's truly one I've admired for a long time. I also him a repayment in kindness for something he did for someone close to me. So...if there is a party...fundraiser...whateverthehellitis, count me in.
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