Steve "Shipooploi" Schneider cries "THIEF"

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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
so where we at with all of this? I dont want to review the whole thing- just a summary of:

Tools
Fools
Gools
Shitheads
Thiefs
Liars
Egos
Leggos
and fries do we have now??
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2012 - 12:38pm PT
Time to answer some fan mail.


Mr. Erik Wolfe Borghoff:
The real kicker for me was when he started his thread AFTER Madbolter got on the other thread and said Steve stepped up, did the right thing and was forgiven (yet again!).

Did that matter one whit to this 3rd party intardnet wanker? No.

This thread was started at "Dec 5, 2012 - 12:15am PT" - that's 12:15 in the morning (15 minutes after midnight) on Dec 5th. Madbolter got on the other thread at "Dec 5, 2012 - 04:46am PT."

So Madbolter's post was over four and a half hours after mine.

The good Mr. Borghoff is chronologically challenged.

Madbolter, what the hell were you doing on Supertopo at 4:45 in the morning?





Vitaliy M. to someone else:

Well as long as guys like you keep taking it up the a*# and keep smiling at the 'bozos' that fix several sets of lines on the same climb it will keep happening. Enjoy. If you had a penis maybe you would speak up about this inconvenience you had.

I saw the post you changed on the other thread. You posted almost at the same time as me and you quoted the karma line from Steve's post and ridiculed. Later you went back and changed your post to make it look like you were responding to my comment.

I'm not going to make any comments about your penis or lack of penis, because I think that's misogynistic. Don't dis people with vaginas.





Kerwin:
his intent to clean the ropes is substantiated by the fact that he went back to clean them in between the storms. given the circumstances as described in these threads, i can't see good grounds for describing the ropes as abandoned trash.

There are two players in this. Steve, who had his ropes taken down, and some second person who removed the ropes. This is a real person who is living and breathing right now. If we accept Steve's judgment, we should hound this person down and have him arrested and put into jail as a thief.

But we do not know who this person is and what he was thinking when he took the ropes down. If he knew that they were Steve's and Steve was going to come back for them, then he is a thief. If he did not know that and just saw the rope as mank being abandoned after the end of the season, then he was not a thief.

I respect Steve's judgment on climbing matters, but do not think he is in superior position then any of us to label anyone who took his stuff as "thief."

I've already said that if my ropes were taken I'd probably be ranting about thieves also, but that would not mean that I'm right.
locker

Social climber
State of KUMBAYA!!!
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:45pm PT

Someone posted that they were pretty sure graniteclimber was a woman...

and then this...

"I'm not going to make any comments about your penis or lack of penis, because I think that's is misogynist. Don't dis people with vaginas."...




I don't think granite is deserving of a BOOTING personally and even think some of her/his(???) posts are pretty humorous...

Of course I don't read many of the threads and MAY be missing a lot of what is causing the ruckus...


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
i think that NEVER becoming a "valley-ite" was the smartest thing i ever did in climbing. I could smell it in the air in 77/78. Aint much changed all in all..

some things are a sure bet in a season in Yos.

A) there will be deaths
B) there will be rescues
C) there will be arguements regarding El Cap.

BASE1361

climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
A few days ago, a new poster started yet another 11/9 conspiracy theory thread. Both poster and thread disappeared within an hour. A not so subtle reminder as to the purpose of this forum, at least in the view of SuperTopo management, who removed them.

Perry then started a thread about the possibility of civil discussion of such theories, however kooky they are - http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1997501/Re-Deleted-911-Thread It quickly morphed into the usual back and forth, which I should have known better than to add to - and usually do. Although the hamsters were a fun way to mock the 'believers', I've deleted mine. But perhaps some of the believers have a martyr complex, and feel that such satire validates their beliefs?

As for the rest, there's no need to turn this into another 'appreciation' thread. I mean, I'm glad that I'm held in such high esteem, and am so well respected, but this has to stop. It's embarrassing. I'm just a ka-lu-less sheeple, eh?
BASE1361

climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:15pm PT


For GC and Anders.

The Larry get's the credit for this gem. Good Ole Lemmiwinks.
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
^^fuking beat me to Lemiwinks you did^^

Thats some funny ass sh#t right there.
locker

Social climber
State of KUMBAYA!!!
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:18pm PT


"I'm just a ka-lu-less sheeple, eh?"...

Aren't you CANADIAN???...

Goes with the territory...

LOL!!!...

Burchey

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
Someone posted that they were pretty sure graniteclimber was a woman...

and then this...

I haven't noticed a whole lot of logic in the posts, sooo....
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
Base, that's funny. But it's an American Lemmiwink, not a Syrian Hamster.

locker

Social climber
State of KUMBAYA!!!
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:22pm PT


^^^

EXACTLY!!!...

ROFL!!!...

graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
I might use the Lemmiwink video anway. It shows superior, ah, "tunneling" capability. A capability that would have been useful in planting the demo charges without detection.
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
Did someone say "vagina"?
BASE1361

climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
^^^



JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
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Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
I don't think Steve was trying to free that line. Not like it matter, his stuff should not have been taken by some random dude

Pretty sure He'd be more than 5 pitches up after a month if he wasn't trying to free it.

He's a speedy mofo

peace

Karl
klk

Trad climber
cali
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
There are two players in this. Steve, who had his ropes taken down, and some second person who removed the ropes. This is a real person who is living and breathing right now. If we accept Steve's judgment, we should hound this person down and have him arrested and put into jail as a thief.

as i said, folks with expertise get more weight when making judgments in their area of expertise. law enforcement is clearly not steve's area of expertise. but yeah, i think a number of folks have suggested, gently or loudly, that venting about this online wasn't the best idea.

fwiw, i don't know steve. i guess i may have met him at some point, but honestly dont remember. and i don't care about fixing the nose, so i don't have a dog in this fight.

and even though i think that it was ill-advised for him to log on and rant about this, i do have some sympathy-- el cap is a pretty public place for anything to go south. he starts a proj in very public view, max risk of slander however it turns out. has to leave it and bail back to work; the storms set in; he's got fixed line up he has to clean; makes the grim slog out to do the housework of cleaning up a failed or incomplete proj; and then finds out that someone has gleeped a big chunk of the fix. so not only is he out the dough for the rope, but also that grim drive out to yard it all down. worse, the gleepist didn't clean all of it. now there's however many feet of shipoopi bail flag flapping in the wind on one of the most public crags in the world. gonna sit there all winter. prolly still be there in early spring. and by that time, given the way cali climber culture works, there will be volumes of oral legend built up around that tat.

you all know how it works-- campfire stories, forties, scrib, word of mouth. by early may, folks in c4 are going to be pointing to that string and saying, yeah, i hear ss used that rope to haul a hydraulic drill up there to chip holds and then used it to strangle christian gerbils. it'll prolly be part of the plot to bring down the twin towers. frickin nightmare.

so yeah, i can imagine that the drive back to sea level was pretty unpleasant, and i'm sure i'd have had a few pops and vented after that myself.

jstan

climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
I think Storm Large should have the last word on this thread.
grover

climber
Northern Mexico
Dec 6, 2012 - 07:35pm PT

just sayin










































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