10/11/12 ROPES RECOVERED. Two days ago i was contacted by the party that removed my ropes. They were NOT STOLEN as i thought, but were part of a misguided attempt to clean up what they perceived as garbage. The party intends to get my ropes back to me. i am happy about that, and especially glad to know that my ropes were not poached. The party said if i had just left a note, they would have left my lines alone. ss
I am glad that you got your ropes back. After some of the discussion I priced out what new static ropes cost now, and they're not cheap.
Your initial post rubbed me the wrong way and I reacted to that. And when I was attacked or that, it just made me dig in further. I'm glad my gut impression of why they were removed was right, but am more glad that I was wrong in guessing they'd thrown them away.
Also, I said it before, but after I put myself "in your shoes" I realized that what you posted was not different from what I would have wanted to post if it had happened to me.
Edit: I'm also curious why they left the top rope.
i just spoke to the person who removed my lines and now know the whole story. apparently, this person was asked by a person in uniform if he could take the lines down that were mine. no idea who that person in uniform was. kind of unprecedented...a ranger asking an unknown climber to remove fixed lines. without that little push, my ropes would have been there for me to remove on dec 4th. as it was, they were taken down ten days before that, on 11/23.
anyway, on the recovery effort, a couple of noobs were along and one of them got scared on the last fixed rope, and basically had to be rescued off the rope, and that was the end of the rope retrieval effort, and why the last rope never got cleaned off.
so, we had a great talk about it, and hit it off on the phone and are even thinking about roping up for the big stone next year. go figure! ss