Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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I was reading this thread and thought, 'What a bunch of dicks."
And then I saw this:
Coz ill give you 100 bucks to not be a dick,
and I almost peed.
So I guess I'm one too.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Didn't some guys named Robbins, Pratt, Chouinard and Frost opine 50 years ago that using fixed ropes in Yosemite wasn't good style? And didn't they do their best to live up to their words? And wasn't that the accepted ethos for decades? So what's changed? Apart, that is, from climbers now having a lot more money, knowledge and equipment.
Of course, old farts rarely know anything worth hearing, eh?
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coz
Mountain climber
Northern surly
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Silver,
Did I sleep
With ur girlfriend BITD?
You leg humping psycho,
Steve and I r great friends and he works for me, so go F yourself shite bird.
And sure send me a 100 bucks stalker boy.
Edit, I'm truly concern for SS and his rant, really seems absurd.
Guys like Silver and Cragman just make me nervous.
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jstan
climber
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I have a confession to make for something I stole fifty years ago. I stole a really nice shirt, a pair of pants, and a balaclava in the Adirondacks. Some one had left them fixed in a garbage pit and I ignored the possibility they were an essential part of a world shaking project. Now I want to allay anyone's feelings that I am totally without principle. I also could have stolen a pair of socks and a set of underwear. Subliminally I must have allowed for the fact my taking those might have resulted in someone dying. The latter are, after all, essential gear.
I am assured the owner of that clothing is out there reading ST. Therefore I want to apologize here for my heinous disregard and to make a request. i just want you to know that was my favourite shirt for more than ten years. I still have its remains in my nostalgia drawer and will return it if you would like.
If you decide to fix another shirt please make it of the same tartan and size.
Thank you,
Edit:
On another matter along these lines.
In our efforts to clean up an area that climbers use in JT I am storing some items that were located near the East edge. I need to get them back to their owners. If anyone here knows someone who used the area and had stuff on the East side could you ask them to get in touch with me. Appreciate it.
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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Hey Patrick, as long as you're quoting Georgie Best, here's a good one from
back when he was still playing (and a player):
"If I'd been born ugly, the world would never have heard of Pele."
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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I'm truly concern for SS and his rant, really seems absurd.
The post and it's threatening bad karma and criminal prosecution hit me the wrong way. But I think you nail it in calling it a rant When you think about like that, it really isn't absurd.
If I drove down to the Valley just to take down my ropes and found the ropes gone (no ropes for next project) and my trip wasted (waste of gas, waste of time)I would be angry also and might be doing some ranting of my own, and it could be just as "bad" or worse than anything Steve said.
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wstmrnclmr
Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
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Mighty Hiker....Didn't someone named Warren Harding, a climber equally as well known as Robbins, Pratt et.al. put up the first serious climb on the Captain, by far the most well known climb in the world using fixed gear of all sorts, fueling the ethos debate still raging today? Surely your old enough to remember him. I am equally humbled by both Robbins and Harding....
And only Steve Schneider knows his Karmic score: How much good or bad he's done collectively in his life and thus non of us may judge his Karma nor can we judge others'.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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If I drove down to the Valley just to take down my ropes and found the ropes gone (no ropes for next project) and my trip wasted (waste of gas, waste of time)I would be angry also and might be doing some ranting of my own, and it could be just as "bad" or worse than anything Steve said.
What? Sanity and Balance is taking hold on this thread?! The Mayan are right! The transformation of the world is at hand
Peace
karl
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mt10910
climber
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am confused.
so let me get this straight. Guy goes to a national park.
Guy litters, leaves national park.
Other folks clean up litter.
Guy who littered avoids getting a ticket and banned from park.
Guy who littered wants folks who cleaned up his trash to be arrested because he wants his litter back?
or am I missing something?
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Steve, my former neighbor and generally good guy and someone I would consider a friend,
Do yourself a favor and delete this thread. Seriously. I don't want to have to visit you in prison.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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THREAD DRIFT (but this thread could use a bit of lightheartedness)
Scuffy B
One of the best but flawed
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
George Best
I used to go missing a lot... Miss Canada, Miss United Kingdom, Miss World.
George Best
I've stopped drinking, but only while I'm asleep.
George Best
In 1969 I gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life.
George Best
I once said Gazza's IQ was less than his shirt number and he asked me: "What's an IQ?"
George Best, Best on Paul Gascoigne.
I was in for 10 hours and had 40 pints - beating my previous record by 20 minutes.
George Best, regarding a blood transfusion for his liver transplant
Scuffy what's the one story, he's in The Ritz, and the room service waiter comes in to see Best and Miss World on the bed with loads of pounds notes scattered all over, and the waiter says: "Where did it all go wrong Mr Best?"
I knew a guy in London and he was drinking mates with Best. He said that George always wanted to pick a table near the women's toilets. "Why?", "Because at some point tonight, every woman is going to have to use the loo," Best replied. And sure enough, women would be leaving their telephone numbers on George's table.
Okay, back to fixed lines, litter and hysterics.
EDIT
I used to have a football pal, Mike Simon, that I played with on a couple of teams until the the San Jose Earthquakes (the older team in the NASL, not the renamed Houston Dynamo or the new San Jose Earthquakes) drafted him. Mike said that Best was a footballing genius, as he played with Best for the Earthquakes.
In 1982, Northern Ireland having qualified for the 1982 World Cup, NI manager Billy Bingham said he would take a fit George Best to the finals.
Around April, 1982 Middlesborough were bottom of the old English First Division and wanted to sign Best as a 'gate draw', you know, bums on seats in theater talk. The Earthquakes said: "Okay George, go to England, get match fit , go to the World Cup, and then come back to us."
Best went a missing for two weeks on a binge. No World Cup, which some may say why he wasn't a great player. But of course, he was.
A common description of his place in football history is summed up by the quote "Maradona good; Pelé better; George Best."
What does this have to do with climbing? Absolutely nothing, but I did state at the start that it was thread drift.
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Scott Thelen
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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I think it's karma for naming a peak in the Sierra Mt Bandaloop :-}
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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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Steve- I am sorry your lines got taken. That is lame. I am not the biggest fan of leaving fixed lines up for long stretches, BUT yours were on an obscurity and were nicely strung up. I saw them at the end of October and they were well out of the way of everything. No reason anyone should have taken them without contacting you or making it known they were doing so.
did you double check it wasn't the NPS?
To (most) of the rest of you --- You don't climb, hike, walk, look at or go near el cap. Don't convolute a real issue with an issue of the past. Shut the f*#k up if you having nothing to say directed at the issue of someone jugging and taking the lines. Go back to your armchair and rub your balls some more.
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Jebus H Bomz
climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
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Go back to your armchair and rub your balls some more.
I didn't need it, but thank you for the validation. rubrubrubrubrubrub
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RP3
Big Wall climber
El Portal/Chapel Hill
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+1 Dave!
There is a lot of BS on this thread (~95% of posts) that is not related to the real issues.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Didn't some guys named Robbins, Pratt, Chouinard and Frost opine 50 years ago that using fixed ropes in Yosemite wasn't good style? And didn't they do their best to live up to their words? And wasn't that the accepted ethos for decades? So what's changed?
The thing that changed is that those guys weren't trying to climb EL Cap free. The game was merely to "get up" El Cap, and you could even pound as many pitons as you liked in the process
For now, even though I'm not a fan of long term fixed lines, the game even for the elite, involves repeated trips working incredibly hard pitches several number grades harder than those guys dreamed of.
Someday maybe people will be so insanely good they can just go send that stuff onsight but that day doesn't seem so soon
Peace
Karl
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Suppose the person had refused to give you the gear you claimed was yours. If you had assaulted that person, since it was only a claim that it was your gear, you would have been charged with assault and battery in another person's residence. Even were your legal defense ultimately successful,
CAUTION! This is the OJ defense. assaulting someone to reclaim one's property.
You know, the guy sitting in jail.
physical attacks are always wrong, legally. Don't let your testoterone put you in the slammer.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Let me
Paraphrase what Chief said...
You lost some old shite line you abandon for a month, get over it and harden the Fcuk up.
Edit, I'll give u a 100 bucks to stop posting, about ur True Nose attempt.
Wow, what's cozzie's rub with Steve?
Shpoopi, get back to your desk and sell whatever cozzie's selling!!!
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