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graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 11:49am PT
Thanks for posting this RideOn


Second, your cords were up there from AT LEAST the early part of October. Not a month. They were there the entire time I was, and Pete's ledge was hanging at the top of them for a good portion of that time.

And while they may not have been the exact same ropes, the fact remains that there were one or another of yours, Pete's, or Cory's lines up there for basically the entire fall season. Personally, I couldn't care less, it's not like they were on the Zodiac or Salathe or something that sees traffic. But the difference between a month and two months, or them being there mid season when locals expect to find fixed lines and past the end of the normal climbing season, when they start looking like someone just left trash, is an important point.

Third, you can buy a 200meter spool of 10mm static line for about ~$350. I did so this summer, so your cost estimate is WAY off. I also find it hard to believe that with your history, connections, resume etc, that you don't have a rope sponsor.
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Dec 5, 2012 - 11:49am PT
Bachar would go look for them. He would do that for friends.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 5, 2012 - 11:49am PT
First of all, I have to admit that, being about the same age as Steve, that I'm astounded that folks that damn old are still able to contemplate freeing old El cap lines, particularly now that the never-was-that-low hanging fruits have been plucked.

as for the lines, I've had fixed lines bugging me on walls I've done before and have mixed feelings about them, less so for routes that nobody does. Fact is that for folks trying to free hard hard aid routes these days, long periods of fixed lines is standard procedure and it's good that Steve took the care to keep his fixed lines off any trade routes

I'm a little bit dirtbag but it's hard to imagine being dirtbag enough to steal old stiff fixed lines. Few people need them that don't have them and they really aren't worth much. My guess is that whoever took them down either has a grudge against Steve or has his moral panties in a bunch, much like a bolt chopping mentality

peace

karl
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Dec 5, 2012 - 11:56am PT
Hey everyone, try this:

Make sure you're logged in, and click on the RideOn icon. This will take you to the SuperTopo member profile. Then click on "forum posts" and you will see that RideOn is a brand new user ID, created specifically to spread disinformation. This brand new user was quoted by micro-penis boy above as though it was somehow factual. O'Really?

My ledge was up there with Steve all of about three days, before it became apparent that we did knott have time to finish the route before he and Cory had to return to work. So we moved kit over to another route, and climbed that instead.

Now, if you are *really* clever, and know how to do this, you will find that RideOn and Graniteclimber are both posting from the same IP address, meaning they are the same person. Fascinating, eh?

Truly, one wonders what is up Granite climber's tw#t.

I should also mention that I jugged and rapped Steve's ropes for those several days I was up there climbing with him, and while they were indeed very stiff and a bit sunbleached, they were not abraded. And being 11mm stiffy caving ropes, a bit of abrasion means nothing, as the ropes are specifically designed to become a bit abraded and still work. I can tell you that the ropes were completely safe, although very herky-jerky to rappel on.

Another thought is that the person who removed the ropes might have honestly believed they were abandoned? In which case, would they please return the ropes to Steve?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:07pm PT
Best feckin' popcorn thread in a long time!

Steve, don't hold your breath on ever seeing your stuff, or a bust.


In 1980, I felt like a loser for leaving lines on the first pitches of the P.O. Wall for a week, even though there was no competition over there at the time.

A month is too long. I have my own longstanding boner about "freeclimbing project" ropes being left up at Smith Rocks endlessly BITD.

That being said, dropping all the low ropes and leaving something up high is just straight up DICK MOVE!

Oh yeah, faggot gerbil is classic too.
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
PTPP

Bro you're like an computer wizard with ip talk n sh#t. LoL

I still want to know why granite bumped the SS should pay thread before steve posted his ropes were gone and almost immediately once Steve's thread went up he deleted his post and piled on in Steve's thread.

Granite you knew they were gone before steve posted his thread didn't you
I am the only one who saw this ? Why would you bump it then nuke your post as soon as steve posted? You know who took them don't you?

Cage match steve vs granite meadows next week ill bring the cage

Edit
Survival please bring the popcorn
WBraun

climber
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:11pm PT
Every gerbil that comes out of someone ass this fuking queer Granite sh!thead eats and regurgitates and then spits out here on this forum to only stir up more nu-nesseary sh!t and flame wars.

That's his whole spiel here always.

He's a total gerbil sh!t eating azzhole who hides completely behind his anonymous avatar.

Eliminate this useless POS .....
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
still want to know why granite bumped the SS should pay thread before steve posted his ropes were gone and almost immediately once Steve's thread went up he deleted his post and piled on in Steve's thread.

Granite you knew they were gone before steve posted his thread didn't you
I am the only one who saw this ? Why would you bump it then nuke your post as soon as steve posted? You know who took them don't you?

Silver,

I saw your question about this earlier and have been trying to understand what you are talking about. The only thread that I remember bumping was the Watkins Ethics thread, and I did not delete that.

Also, I certainly did NOT post anything or bump anything about Steve before he started this thread.

Can you post a link to the what you call the Steve should pay thread? I'm not finding it.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:20pm PT
Cage match steve vs granite meadows next week ill bring the cage

Edit
Survival please bring the popcorn


You got it man!

Oh, and my money is on Steve to put granite to sleep in about a New York second.


Granite, why have you never posted a trip report or any climbing photos?


The Chief is an ex Navy Chief and acts like it. lol

This too I laugh robustly at! But I like The Chief. I understand military guys.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
Make sure you're logged in, and click on the RideOn icon. This will take you to the SuperTopo member profile. Then click on "forum posts" and you will see that RideOn is a brand new user ID, created specifically to spread disinformation. This brand new user was quoted by micro-penis boy above as though it was somehow factual. O'Really?

My ledge was up there with Steve all of about three days, before it became apparent that we did knott have time to finish the route before he and Cory had to return to work. So we moved kit over to another route, and climbed that instead.

Now, if you are *really* clever, and know how to do this, you will find that RideOn and Graniteclimber are both posting from the same IP address, meaning they are the same person. Fascinating, eh?

Truly, one wonders what is up Granite climber's tw#t.

I should also mention that I jugged and rapped Steve's ropes for those several days I was up there climbing with him, and while they were indeed very stiff and a bit sunbleached, they were not abraded. And being 11mm stiffy caving ropes, a bit of abrasion means nothing, as the ropes are specifically designed to become a bit abraded and still work. I can tell you that the ropes were completely safe, although very herky-jerky to rappel on.

Another thought is that the person who removed the ropes might have honestly believed they were abandoned? In which case, would they please return the ropes to Steve?


I hadn't looked at RideOn's profile, but now that I am, I see what you mean. It was obviously formed just to post here. It was not me though. I didn't even realize that you were the "Pete" it mentioned. But sense it was you, if you say that its false information I believe you.
locker

Social climber
D#@&%ebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
Graniteclimber...

Serious question...

Why don't you post your real name and ANY actual climbing experience/stories, along with some photo's???...


EDITED:

Perhaps you have and I've missed it???...

But there are only 4 shots in your profile...

NONE show you climbing...

Just seems ODD on a CLIMBERS FORUM...
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
What a new tone to your posts granite big time back peddling coming and ill find that thread.
I was shocked when I saw it as I've spent some time here and never had I seen such bs.
wbw

Trad climber
'cross the great divide
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
All the name calling is immature, yes even the Great Werner. Come on Werner, I've looked up to you since the I first saw Yosemite Climber. You could do better than calling someone with whom you disagree a faggot, don'tcha think??.

Whether you like what Granite is saying or not, it is unrealistic to believe that his opinion doesn't exist amongst many people who followed the WoS saga from the beginning.

On the other hand, my impression has always been that Shipoopi is a stand up guy. I've had this impression for years, and I truly hope he gets his stuff back. I also hope the person responsible for *stealing* his stuff gets busted.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
What a new tone to your posts granite big time back peddling coming and ill find that thread.
I was shocked when I saw it as I've spent some time here and never had I seen such bs.

This is really crazy! Do I have it right that you think you saw me bump a Steve Schneider thread right BEFORE Steve posted his stolen ropes thread?
locker

Social climber
D#@&%ebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:38pm PT


Graniteclimber...

please answer my simple question...

THANKS!!!...

locker

Social climber
D#@&%ebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:50pm PT


SILENCE...

No answer...

Hmmm...





Next question:

Has ANYONE here climbed with graniteclimber or SEEN him climb???...

Just wondering WHO is doing the attacking...

Would be NICE to know...
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
Locker, no one has sh#t on my ropes, and I plan to keep it that way.

When DMT posted his theory that this was a vigilante taking revenge on Steve, my reaction was no way. But thinking about it more, I think it's more possible then I first thought I still think the ropes were probably put in the trash by someone who thought they were abandoned, but anything is possible. The only way to know would be to find the person who took them.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
That being said, dropping all the low ropes and leaving something up high is just straight up DICK MOVE!

Agreed on that. Not the move of somebody protesting fixed lines left for a long time (unless it started to rain or circumstances otherwise dictated in the moment.

Leaving a line up there could have been a pointed jab to draw attention, or add hassle, bolstering the vendetta possibility.

Peace

Karl
locker

Social climber
D#@&%ebag Central
Dec 5, 2012 - 12:58pm PT

"Locker, no one has sh#t on my ropes, and I plan to keep it that way."...

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE post at least ONE photo of you actually CLIMBING and I will believe that you are for real...

Otherwise it ain't happening...

LOL!!!...



EDITED:

"Locker, no one has sh#t on my ropes"...

Any chance those ropes are actually STEVEs???...

:-)

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 5, 2012 - 01:09pm PT
Revenge for WOS??

If folks can't fathom that fired up driven young kids do dumb things and usually grow up eventually...well they themselves are probably dumb kids still.
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