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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 3, 2012 - 05:30pm PT
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Yeah, I know this is a climbers forum, but how many of you work as 1099 subcontractors?
Do you piece work together?
How do you do it?
I just took a job that's payroll, but only 25 hrs/week.
I'm piecing together the rest of my week with subcontractor carpentry work
Any advice?
Thanks in advance.
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meclimber
Trad climber
Newmarket, NH
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First off, if you are really looking at making a go at this I would say pick up a blanket WC policy that will cover any non-emplyee payroll on your 'company'. I have been a PM for larger firms in NH, and we won't hire anyone without comp. Next I would put together a large list of GC's and other second tier trade specific (roofing, finish, framing, flooring, siding, etc) and start to cold call. Companies are always in need of a little help. Get in with a few and you will start to easily fill in hours. Also, if asked, don't be afraid to bid work. This makes it more attractive for companies. All of the houses I build are already contracted by the time I get them, so in turn I will only hire fixed bid workers to do work. Finally, you want to build up your client base. As in the future this will be your revenue stream. Take on small jobs, call people back and put out as many bids as you can. Good luck.
-Jon Howard
great call ron. Before becoming a PM, I was myself a GC (1999-2008) and just last year got audited and was able to get anyway with the skin of my teeth thanks to records!
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ruppell
climber
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Check in to your states law on the subject. Here in Cali you can't legally work on a construction site as a sub unless you have a sub trade license or are an employee of a contractor who does. It just depends on how legal you wanna be. If it's just you don't worry about workers comp. It would be a good idea to look into GLI insurance though. It's pretty cheap and covers your ass for any damages you might cause. It's always been my experience that guys that wanna hire you on as a 10-99 are on the shoddy side at best. If it's just you pulling down "handyman" work then just get a business license from your town and have the home owner cut the check directly to the business.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2012 - 06:08pm PT
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To be clear, I carry 600k in liability.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Check in to your states law on the subject. Here in Cali you can't legally work on a construction site as a sub unless you have a sub trade license or are an employee of a contractor who does.
Yep, A contractor can loose his license for using an unlicensed sub.
You also can't legally do work worth more than $500 either.
Laws are radically different from state to state though.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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TGT..The 500 limit has been raised if i'm not msitaken...RJ
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Or just be real and work for cash, totally off record and no 1099-ing, like hundreds of thousands of others do just the Bay Area.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2012 - 08:24pm PT
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Funny, all the reputable carpenters in NH work 1099. Must be a regional thing.
@Peter, it would be great to pay no taxes, but I live in responsibileville.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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TGT...Your'e right...My bad...RJ
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Funny, all the reputable carpenters in NH work 1099. Must be a regional thing.
Has nothing to do with the reputability, it is The Peoples Republic Kalifornia after all.
We must tax and regulate above all!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2012 - 08:33pm PT
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So, what's up?
If I move back to California, I'll be taxed because I'm a carpenter?
That seems wrong.
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ruppell
climber
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Brandon
If you're a carpenter and you move back to Cali just expect to be unemployed. Climbing is great year round though.
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meclimber
Trad climber
Newmarket, NH
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In NH we are really moving away from the whole 'self-employed' employed thing. It was great while it lasted but the insurance companies are really starting to crack down on us. But, with no licensing and and just liability needed it is still easy. Call your agent and chesk it out. A blanket WC package that is not payroll related should be about $1000 a year. It will make you much GC's and homeowners alike.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 11:05am PT
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You Cali dudes have it easy. I'm lowballing work at $25/hr just to keep the hours coming.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I was layed off a few days ago and back looking for a carpentry job. I worked on a crew for 2 years as an employee. Got layed off in the spring and worked for a painter all summer as an employee. I did all the sideing, window trim etc. replacement as well as reguler painting duties and finished the season off replaceing the boss's roof. Now its job hunting again. Seems like guys hireing want me to have my own insurance and 1099 me. Pretty sure this is simply a way for them to not have to pay workmans comp etc. So I have to get liability ins but i will have no workmans comp if i get hurt? How does this all work?
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Brandon,
I'm just guessing, but 25 an hour is probably about right for the guys working in the housing market here in California. The high paying carpenter jobs are all about what you are qualified to do. We used to just go to work and if you couldn't do the job, you were gone the first day. Now, the more training classes you take, the more quals you have. The more quals you have, the better chance you get the job. Then of course there is the drug testing, background checks, pysch. test, and a bunch of other stuff. You might check into the Nuke jobs there in the north east. I was thinking about heading up there but it looks like I am going to work here next month.
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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It may be a bit different up here in the Great North, but after 40 years in the business, I still see the same two mistakes repeated again and again by the young guys and gals I hire.
1. As a Sub in Canada you are responsible to submit your own income tax. Set it aside every pay cheque, it will snowball quickly and leave you seriously in debt, and ruin your credit history!
2. Don't work for cash, when the time comes to buy that house or apartment or major purchases for you and your family, You will be refused credit from the banks because you have no history of income.
The rest is simple, just not easy.
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