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T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:42pm PT
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happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:46pm PT
There's no way in hell I would stay one moment in that house even just reading this thread.

I haven't had a ghost thing in many years but have had several in the past. The worse one was at my sister's house, a rental. I was visiting and in the kitchen one morning. I heard someone in the bedroom above, walking back and forth, opening/closing the closet doors. My sister Kate, who is also in the kitchen says "Do you here that?" I say "yes - why is Danielle(her sister-in-law) acting like that?"

She says "Danielle isn't here; that's the ghost." I got the CREEPY feeling and had to physically run outside the house to get away from it. I never wanted to be alone there afterward.

The other bad one, funny this thread comes up, I was just thinking about yetserday. I was living for a short time in Marquette, Michigan, and out with a group of my youngest sister and brother's friends. We went to a house which was purported to be haunted.

We got there, and the house was derilect - doors gone, windows gone. Water damage from years of exposure to the elements and the traces of having been on fire.

There was a whole bunch of toys scattered out in front of the place, and very starngely, a piano that looked in perfect condition inside, even though the rest of the house was in such bad shape. Some wanted to go inside, but I was like "I don't know..."

Then someone said "Wait - do you hear that sound?" It was a low, droning and constant hum. I said "Well, that's the traffic from the highway." They said "The highway is at least 10 miles away. And look at all these toys. They're old toys, but they look brand new!"

I looked and HOLY SH#T - they were spotless, even though having been outside a house which hadn't had people in it for a decade. The him sound, the piano inside, and the sight of those toys from the past but in perfect shape - I bout fainted right there. I MADE us leave. Everyone started laughing but - ughh, I get scared just thinking about it. YUCK.

I have also seen plenty of People who were white and filmy - mostly back at the family house I grew up in.

I do not like ghosts, do not like that feeling that seems to be in back of me, and am glad that for whatever reason it is, I don't have those experiences in the last several years.

toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Dec 2, 2012 - 08:03pm PT
I have also seen plenty of People who were white and filmy


like those pale anorexic types who spend their lives at Rockreation



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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:07am PT
So if a book fell to the floor in the middle of the night, from a stack that could not hold the center, would you go OOOOWEEEOOOOWAAAOOOO ?

Stark raving bullshit would be the clinical answer.

Answer this all you "new age" relativist sentimentalists:

Why does a violent death or unsatisfied young life killed through WAR have no affect on what you hold precious once inside an old building ?

They weren't there to begin with, or They were collateral damage some where else and as such they understand that sh#t happens and this was their fate ?

*smirk*

If this was true metaphysically, there would be a haunting in every pot. It's only fair while on the road to resource prosperity and the multitude of lives lost in pursuit of this goal.

Still, I have empathy for anyone who found themselves face down on the kitchen floor at 1.15 in the morning smelling alcohol and saying it was a ghost...



John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:21am PT
Why does a violent death or unsatisfied young life killed through WAR have no affect on what you hold precious once inside an old building ?

who says it doesn't?

If this was true metaphysically, there would be a haunting in every pot.

Nope..

I could give more detailed answers of what I believe, but when people smirk at me I tend to just want to say f*#k you.

Is that new agey enough for you?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:36am PT
Easy there big fella,

I'm smirking for the fact that almost every time a ghost story comes up it involves a perfectly accountable comfortable person who shockingly comes into contact with ectoplasmic discomfort.

Forget science about all this, my point is that if a life is ended violently or unfairly, all the ghost seers come out for the free wine and "mystery" to solve.

How about applying the same math to all the idealism lying dead after being taken advantage of by your local military recruiter ?

Somehow that doesn't make the grade for threshold pulp fiction. there would be too many books for a market of a known capacity.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:46am PT
Forget science about all this, my point is that if a life is ended violently or unfairly, all the ghost seers come out for the free wine and "mystery" to solve.

No they don't. Most of us who have any sense of the presence of these things never say word one because of people like you. I took a chance because I like Ron. Yes there are people who are attention seekers, and these you see often. These people tend to piss me off, especially the ones who prey on peoples fears. There are plenty of us who very rarely speak up.

What would be the point? To get ridiculed by people like you? No thanks.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:02am PT
Point out the ridicule, then explain the facts you are so covetous of.

Why do ghost stories always involve an individual event ?

Sometimes WAR takes out 1000 people in a second. John, can you please explain how this results in spiritual peace for those who are violently DEAD before their time ?

I think if this reality of being casually dead had any significance for the BS. of metaphysics, there would be an answer that stood up to critical scrutiny.

Please reply.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:04am PT
before their time

How do you know this?


Why do ghost stories always involve an individual event ?

why or how do you presume to know every ghost story/experience?
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:11am PT
So if a book fell to the floor in the middle of the night, from a stack that could not hold the center, would you go OOOOWEEEOOOOWAAAOOOO ?

Stark raving bullshit would be the clinical answer.

Answer this all you "new age" relativist sentimentalists:

You are saying that there is no ridicule in this? Hmmm..
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:14am PT
So you think it's OK to be dead and not fully informed on life at 23 after being herded into WAR ?

There's a really good reason that the military doesn't want to take in males after the age of 25.

It's because those males start thinking about reality and consequences for their actions and may not want to go along with "it's their time".

I don't know when for anyone, but I sure as hell won't presume about "how do I know" like you will.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:19am PT
I don't know when for anyone, but I sure as hell won't presume about "how do I know" like you will.

Nice presumption

So you think it's OK to be dead and not fully informed on life at 23 after being herded into WAR ?

Sometimes people do die before their time. That does not always mean that their soul will stick around. But yes.. depending on ones karma, some can expect to die young.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:21am PT
It's because those males start thinking about reality and consequences for their actions and may not want to go along with "it's their time".

I despise war and believe that the older people should fight them. But I'm not in charge.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:24am PT
Yes I've experienced a book falling from my bookshelf or some piece of food falling from my fridge. It went "thud". Was it a ghost or just gravity making me feel funny after abruptly waking up ?

Of course I could relate it to my synapses doing the work that is what sleep allows in the form of dreams but that's the easy way of explanation for resolving biology VS sentiment.

Excessive sentimentality is a disease not an emotion.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:24am PT
I asked you a basic question. Please answer it. How do you know when someone has died before their time? You see.. I don't believe that a person has just one lifetime. I believe that we have many and that karma carries over from lifetime to lifetime. So if you perhaps were cruel and wasteful of others youth in a previous lifetime, then you might have to experience the waste of your own youth in order to learn a lesson.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:28am PT
Excessive sentimentality is a disease not an emotion.

LOL, damn dude. You certainly know everything.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:29am PT
HAHAHAHA !

Some times people die before their time? Nice of you to apply the assumed bromide !

There's always work in flushing out spirits.

(that was a shot of humour John)
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:34am PT
Sorry Jim. I don't find you to be funny tonight. Maybe I misread you, but I have experienced things that I do not attribute to "excessive sentimentality". If you actually wanted to hear my story rather then make fun of those who believe in things which science can't yet explain, then I might share. But to me your tone is all knowing and derisive. You are so certain that these experiences are just over stimulated synopsis.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:43am PT
AS for wasting youth, I can only feel guilty about this sentiment concerning my own.

I just can't bring the presumption about the youth of others and how they were happy about giving up the ghost !

I'll leave that to you John but won't let romanticism and gullibility hide in the shadows. Someone giving away their life for a political goal...

All politics are in pursuit of a nation's self interest. It never involves chivalry, honor or "glory". Self interest always involves someone else's resources.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:47am PT
I just can't bring the presumption about the youth of others and how they were happy about giving up the ghost !

Well Jim.. I would never presume that they are happy about giving up the ghost. But karma is karma. If you drink and drive at age 18, your chances of dying young increase significantly. You may not want to, but that is the way it is. So no.. I would not presume that someone is happy about dying young.
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