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monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
Dude, he had a commercial pilot's license. I'm sure he could do such a simple turn.

Is he going to be able to shoot an instrument approach at night to a few degrees. Definitely not, but not required for this mission.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:57pm PT
Dude he was talking about a Cessna. Did he fly Jumbo Jets? And dude you have rock shoes I am sure you can solo 5.12. SIMPLETONS.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
"There are no witnesses (that I know about) that saw a missile heading towards pentagon."

Who said "missile"?

Raymond, if you care to look, you will find many eye witnesses whose testimony you choose to ignore.

For example:

Danner, a civilian pilot and electrical engineer from Hagerstown, Maryland, has recently come forward and told American Free Press that he saw an aircraft that resembled a Global Hawk making a tight turn at high speed before leveling off near ground level and smashing into the Pentagon.

The Global Hawk is a jet-powered unmanned aerial vehicle that is used by the U.S. military but was still being tested in 2001.

"It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon," civilian pilot Danner told AFP, "No way."

Yet, the mainstream media has completely ignored eyewitness accounts like Danner's while it has actively promoted the official, but unproven, version that a hijacked Boeing 757 smashed into the Pentagon.


Here's a link that has more complete information, in case you care to have something to discredit:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=90745


There are many, many more.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
He had 757 simulator training.

Look for that vid of the low hours private pilot who hit the pentagon 3 for 3 on a real 757 simulator doing the same maneuver.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
He had 757 simulator training.

Look for that vid of the low hours private pilot who hit the pentagon 3 for 3 on a real 757 simulator.


Yeah and my youngest kid can successfully fly, dogfight and land a MIG on a gaming simulator. And he can rack up a prodigious amount of kills on HALO. I bet even you could summit Everest on a climbing simulation.
Not the same as real life. Take a moment and look at the telemetry of that flight before yoou so arrogantly say you could do it.


Guess what size engine a Global Hawk has?
If it looks like a plane and acts like a plane it must be a 757.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
Yes, lets confuse the smaller parts in a 757 engine with the larger parts in a Global Hawk engine. That'll get us our investigation.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
Philo, a few hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator would probably suffice
for hitting the Pentagon after the plane was established straight and
level. A phukking blind hamster could do it. It ain't rocket science!
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
after the plane was established straight and
level.

It is the getting straight and level I have serious doubts about.

Desperate to deny.
One wonders why?
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:08pm PT
I said a real 757 simulator Philo, not a gaming simulator.

The same simulator airline pilots use.

Try to focus Philo.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:21pm PT




"This man is describing radiation poisoning. Many first responders got leukemia which is only caused by radiation. Period."

Ground Zero: The point directly above or below a nuclear explosion.

~Websters dictionary, 1999.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
Philo, the planes were at cruise altitude on autopilot, how much more
straight and level do you want? The only tough part was being able to
read the switch labeled 'Autopilot' to turn it off. If I recall that was
one of the specific things the sickos asked about when they forked over
their $$$$ for the real sim training.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
Reilly what is the cruising altitude for a 757? And what is the altitude of the ground floor of the Pentagon? What happened between those two points? Or are you saying that a jet traveling at over 500 mph never got more than three feet off the ground and flew straight to the Pentagon?
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
The pilot sets the descent rate on the autopilot. That's why they took simulator training and had manuals.

Once you know how the autopilot works, you can let it do all the work getting you in the right direction and to the right altitude.

They only traveled 500mph in the final straight approach. The turn was at 300mph.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
I have no idea whether the Pentagon was hit by a 757, a missile, or a suicide squad of rabid hamsters.

But I can tell you, from personal experience, that taking a 757 down from cruising altitude and landing it right dead on target in the middle of a runway is not difficult, even for someone who has never piloted an airplane of any kind.

Again, I take no side in the battle among however many conspiracy theories are competing here, but I just want to point out that anyone who says it wouldn't be possible for people with little flight training to fly a 757 into the side of that building is wrong.
raymond phule

climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
I get the impression that Philo don't know how to fly airplanes. He is good at using the most usual truther talking points though.

One thing is that it is much easier to hit something if you do not care that much about the impact speed.
raymond phule

climber
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:46pm PT

Raymond, if you care to look, you will find many eye witnesses whose testimony you choose to ignore.

I am finally convinced. He only waited 5 years to come forward!

Why should anyone believe him more than the other eyewitnesses that came forward right after the attack? You claimed that testimonies where ignored when they didn't even came forward for 5 years. Should people have read there minds?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:47pm PT
See, Philo, even a Ghost can fly a 757.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:52pm PT
Here's an interesting site for us "Truthers."

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files

Those who want to continue believing what was implanted in our belief system immediately after the attacks need not bother.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
Raymond, you obviously do not want to do any research on your own. There are many reports from eye witnesses who saw something very different from a 757 hit the Pentagon. I just showed one that was from someone from inside the Pentagon who knows how to identify planes. A very credible story that I knew you would choose to ignore (funny how I knew that before I even posted it).

I couldn't care less if you are convinced or not. It's your choice to believe what you want to. I'm just pointing out some facts--eye witnesses and other items, that show how the Official Story has many holes in it.

Holes larger than the one at the Pentagon.

OK, I really need to be off this thing.
Cheers,
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Dec 4, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
Mahalo and aloha K-man
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