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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 27, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
In the range of 5" of rain in Sacramento by Sunday... that's like FIVE FEET of snow on the crest of the Sierra.

I'm just sayin... old man winter is riding the Alaskan express with a tropical depression up his ass. Get ready for some good old fashioned California dumpology.

Don't get caught unawares!

DMT
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:29pm PT

Leave some moisture in them clouds and send it
to Colodryo!
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
DMT, sorry but I don't see any significant storm pattern in your posted image. Looks pretty scattered and unorganized.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
GOOD! BRING ON THE SNOW! My forecast is showing rain up high in tahoe, wtf!!!!
Gene

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
Gotta work outside tomorrow in Dos Palos and Merced. Not gonna be much fun.

g
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:46pm PT
Lot's of rain coming to tahoe.....f*#k
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
John M

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
I like this guys discussion.

http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/

also Howards page for mammoth

http://mammothweather.com/
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:55pm PT
Like spokes of a wheel, DMT.

The acacia rolled onto the power line Thanksgiving eve...

New mast for the power line and tree removed yesterday. I raked the roof and cleaned the gutters.
Next?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
"Leftern Most"....Is that a technical term?
;-)
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
you lucky bastards!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
Yup!

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=pmdspd
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
$heeeeeit.
Flood watch and nothing but a $hit ton of rain around here.
Kwood will officially have a very solid base after this but what falls ain't gonna be blower. The lower resorts are literally going to get hosed.

Good timing for me since next week is finals.

Check out the forecast for Shasta.
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.39741506646461&lon=-122.20916748046875

//7-DAY FORECAST

Tonight Snow after 4am.
Total nighttime snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Wednesday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 16 to 22 inches possible.

Wednesday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.

Thursday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 29 to 35 inches possible.

Thursday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 37 to 43 inches possible.

Friday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 23 to 29 inches possible.

Friday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Saturday Snow.
Saturday Night Snow.
Sunday Snow.
Sunday Night Snow showers likely.//


I can't even add up all that snow.
I've got some time off after December 7th, am thinking of a Lassen/Shasta skiesta. Anyone else want to come?
John M

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Holy Avalanche batman !@#$!!! Those are some big numbers.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
Milk Toast...Did you take those storm pics on your last plane flight...? RJ
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
hey there say, DMT... i just heard about this from my other brother, out in calif...

thanks for sharing....
:O


seems folks may be getting flooded, :O
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:19pm PT
it will just be another dry ass windstorm
"1 foot of snow and 10 feet of wind"
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:26pm PT
"rain possible". There's your good old CA weather forecast. Like politics, we don't want to commit to much.....:D lynne
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:26am PT
hey there say, moosedrool... get well soon!...

and say, t*r... keep safe... if any doubts, move on out for a bit...
flash floods, or ?wate-gushes? can affect roads when folks least expect it, too...

my brother is up higher, but occasionaly he will travel those areas, too...
good thing when we can plan ahead...
:)
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:30am PT
I'm praying the goods get brought to kwood. As someone said earlier, they should have a solidddd base after this blasting.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Nov 28, 2012 - 04:57am PT
it's called rain and snow

happens from time to time

part of life

and death

rainier gets 105 feet of snow daily,

but it gets melted by pyroclastic mud flows as soon as it hits,

this gets converted to rainier ale, on sale at your local safeway,

why not pick up a 12 pack today, along with a pack of altoids for the cops,

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 07:54am PT
That Rainier Ale is some good sh#t...Give me some stelazine and chase it with a quart bottle of Green Death and watch the cops pour you into the 15 or less aisle...
Borut

climber
french, spider, cheater
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:21am PT
Hi!
What do you mean you can't tell?

Borut
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:38am PT
the lands were shaped by rain-high altitude rain.
good for the cali ice climber, sucks for the skier.
Peter

Trad climber
San Francisco
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:55am PT
Phase 2

Raining now, as far as I can tell. Guess those stairs won't get finished today.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:46am PT
Raining in Chico, .bummer...

We still have beautiful autumn colors on the trees.....

Now the wind and the rain will wash it all away...........sigh....
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:53am PT
still dry up at tahoe but the big green blob on the radar is headed our way.
predicted snow levels don't seem as dreary this morning although the big storm saturday night into sunday still looks pretty warm.
it's still early in the winter.
sempervirens

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:57am PT
Raining in Chico, means it must be heading our way. I'm in eastern Plumas County at 5000' and not a drop yet. It was about 40 degrees at 5:00 am this morning. Warm, too warm. And too cloudy to see the lunar eclipse.
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:04am PT
the lands were shaped by rain-high altitude rain.
good for the cali ice climber,


I like that, but want to ski also.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:06am PT
45 degrees, full overcast, breeze picking up at 6900ft. We'll see....

Waiting to find out whether Im buying ski boots or ice tools this year. Last year was rad for ice up here...
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:08am PT
Raing hard just north of Stockton.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:16am PT
It ain't fair I tell ya!
Yous NorCalers have all the fun!

goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:17am PT
Further north, Oregon is going to get the goods.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:20am PT
It's been grey in Colodryo for days and no moisture in sight.

WTF!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:22am PT
Goat, awesome! But I thought a Unisys was a computer? Where'd you get that?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:24am PT
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/nepac/flash-rb.html
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:26am PT
That's a beaut, Wendel! I think I'll stare at it the rest of the day.
WBraun

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:29am PT
Rain is coming.

Nice carrots will grow again ......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:30am PT
Yeah, Dingus, I hacked the Unisys mail system for the whole state of Alaska
BITD. It was a hoot reading people's mail and then sending them cryptic
messages. When I told the IT peeps about their hole they wouldn't believe me.
Until I told 'em what was in their mailboxes. BwaHaHaHa!
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:54am PT
The snow fall above 8 to 9,000 ft. is going to be biblical. Kirkwood and Mammoth are the best bets for dumpage.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:57am PT
I just hope that Rottingjohnny's handlers can keep him under control until
his wax fully sets up.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
Heavy Rain in Santa Cruz...I'm waxing....


Susan
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
Raining and blowing pretty well in Auburn already.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
im now sittin on a couch
sippin coors outta a bottle,
next to a piss-fir-fire
in the strawberry lodge.

rain and wind out the window.
ski's?
no.
skirt?
maybe.
beliefs?
fvk 'em.

jesus the utility poles stand taller than
any tree bold enough to tease tall horizons.

we are a stupid fvcking lot and
no jesus will not pull up your socks.
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
Webcam at kirkwood sure looks like snow to me
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
I forbid this wetness.

ABOMINATION!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
Dumping snow nicely here at Donner Summit! Hoping for a couple of feet today and tonight, so we can handle some heavy rain, then more snow...Might go out and ski in a training track for today before it gets too deep. yeah for winter!

ps. How about those US XC Ski Team Women! First World Cup last weekend. Kikkan Randall Third place 10k! US Womens team 3rd in the relay! Best results ever...

Peter

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
Perhaps a Donner party moment coming up? Lord knows we need the moisture.
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
Notice Dingus that the WV imagery, posted a page back, shows dry air over Hawaii and that the storm has just a small straw into some subtropical moisture much closer to the coast. Also notice that you have a split flow in the jet stream, you can make it out in all the satellite shots but also in the link Bruce posted.

This is going to take away from the full force of the storm, in addition the small straw into the sub tropical moisture doesnt help, if your hoping for copius amounts of precip.

split flow from bruces link, a weak arm aimed at WA/BC


notice the small "atmospheric river" from the sub-tropical moisture plume


current sat shot, notice you just dont have a good flow from the subtropics


larger image here

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/nexsat-bin/nexsat.cgi?BASIN=CONUS&SUB_BASIN=focus_regions&CCA=NorthAmerica-x-x&SSC=x-x-x&AGE=Latest&SIZE=Full&PRODUCT=vis_ir_background&SUB_PRODUCT=goes&DISPLAY=Single&PATH=NorthAmerica-x-x/x-x-x/vis_ir_background/goes&CURRENT=2

a true atmospheric river, pineapple express type thing looks like this

straight from hawaii to california


never the less it looks like you have a nice storm brewing, just could be better :)

background idea for these things
[Click to View YouTube Video]
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Lovin' it..but I've gotta fly to Pa for a few days for my Dad's 90th birthday...hope to return to SNOW SNOW in the Sierras...or Bridger Bowl, Bozeman... we shall see...

Susan
John M

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
dint last long,, breaking to the west...


Poor Ron

I'm being followed by a rain shadow
Rain shadow Rain shadow
Leaping and hopping on a Rain shadow
Rain shadow Rain shadow


Kind of curious Ron.. what do you mean by ..

ill bet FIVE HUNDRED ------------------- pennies that the tahoe general area receives very little precip as most will go south and north.

Do you mean everything east of the mountains? haha
Forest

Trad climber
Denver, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 06:34pm PT
Riley, where did you ski? We've gotten a whole lot of dick and squat out here in CO.

All the resorts I'm aware of that are open are on man-made.

Send some our way!
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
My bad DMT . . . looks like you know your Pacific weather patterns quite well!

Enjoy the moisture, it is extremely dry and mild here, hopefully we will see some precip. also.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:33pm PT
In verdi, nv (just W of reno), 0.81" of rain so far and 55 mph max wind gust on the home weather station today. Not bad for the weakest wave of the system. I think this one is probably real.
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
Town of mammoth got about 3"-5" of snow...... but it was raining when I left my job site.... bet the top got hammered .... most likely will be good wind-buff after the blow-out winds following this system.... doubt it will be pow with these warm temps.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
Reilly....The only thing my handlers are waxing is my thong line and the cottage cheese beneath it..
Double D

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Y'all have your sights slightly amiss...
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
Cracks me up OP is so committed to this thread. Always good to warn noobs, but they don't heed it usually.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
Step-in snowboarders only sit down when they're tired. We don't run no "strappy Nelsons"...Those guys missed the boat. Poor bastards.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:11am PT
You're all a bunch of weather wankers and pussies and full of wind.

God gave us Gore-Tex and we still talk about the weather! Sheesh!

As if we can do anything! F'n Dingus...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:16am PT
Send it to the mountains where it belongs. Spare the desert!! There's more climbing to be done!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:37am PT
Minor Truckee Flooding Possible by Weekend.

Been about 7 years since last one.. Hopefully not this time but...

The National Weather Service in Reno has issued a
* Flood Watch for
the Truckee River at Vista
* from Sunday afternoon to Monday afternoon.
* At 1:15 PM Wednesday the stage was 4.4 feet.
* Minor flooding is possible.
* Flood stage is 15.0 feet.
* Forecast... flood stage may be reached by Sunday afternoon.
* Impact... at 15.0 feet... minor flooding begins in lowest portions
of the Truckee Meadows, including Truckee River bike path through
Sparks, University farm, Boynton Slough, Rosewood lakes Golf
course. High stages on the Truckee begin to cause backwater
flooding from storm drains in lower Sparks Industrial area, and
along Steamboat Creek.

Flood watch in effect for other areas of CA and NV. Don't be dumb out there.
-----------------------------------


RENO http://www.reno.gov/index.aspx?page=1294

If you or your business may be in the affected areas here is where you can get free sandbags.

Due to the current weather forecast and the potential for flooding, sandbags and sand will be available to the public at one location beginning Saturday, Dec. 18 at 8 a.m. This site will be accessible and materials will be available daily between the hours of 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., including this Saturday and Sunday.

Parking lot of Governors Bowl Park located at the end of Line Drive off of East Fourth Street. Line Drive is on the North side of East Fourth Street just East of Sixth Street.

BYOS (Bring Your Own Shovel)

Play Video

Watch a video on how to properly use sandbags
Please be advised that you will need to bring a shovel and fill the sandbags yourself.

Should the potential for flooding and the demand for sandbags increase, we will activate additional sandbag sites pursuant to the city's flood action plan.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:53am PT
Yes up at Donner the fluffy 5 inches has been sogged down to 1 by rain...still going to head out for a saturated ski workout, gotta get what I can, someday it will snow, and we will have races!

Peter
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:05am PT
YES Jaybro, i agree, please spare the desert!!!!
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:50am PT
The Mammoth Mtn web cams are really quite humorous.

rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
http://ca.water.usgs.gov/webcams/truckee/webcam-oper.html
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
You guys aren't alone... This is never a good sign....
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
When I worked at Squaw Valley in 1980, we had a good 6' base by New Years day. A few days later we got hit by the Pineapple Express and it rained continuously for 3 days. The whole East Face of KT-22, Reddog and Reddog Ridge climax avalanched. It took out most of the lower lift towers of Olympic Lady and ruined a lot of buzzez that winter. There were 4' water erosion channels on most of the Mountain Run. This winter could shape up to be something similar IMO.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:28pm PT
Nothing but rain at my house, 40 degrees right now, ~6900 ft. Got a butthair of snow yesterday, but gone.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
Here in SoCal, the combination rain guage / squirrel feeder is showing about an eighth of an inch, so we're getting the hell hammered out of us too.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
Patience. It will come.

T*R edit: Warm is a relative term.
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 29, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
-2 and snowing in that WB lodge pic
John M

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
About the tahoe guy. Almost always take weather forecasting with a grain of salt. Especially long term prognostication. What I like about the tahoe page is that he explains things in ways that I can understand. I know that he isn't always right, and has even made some big mistakes. So what. He at least gave some explanation for why he was so wrong. And those guys with all the letters after their names have also made lots of mistakes. He is just one of many tools that I use to try to get an understanding for what is going to happen. I also like some of the graphics he posts.

I also look outside. I read a story once about a big storm that hit california a number of years ago. Back in the 50s I think. I can't remember where I found it, probably in our local book sale. Part of it was from the weather forecasters point of view. He told a story about reminding the new forecasters to always go outside before they posted their forecast. This was because they worked in a big building inside with no windows. He said that when he was new he was working nights and he studied all of the info that they had, was about to post that it was going to be a sunny morning, but one of the night cleaners said he had just been outside and it was raining hard. He was that off in his prediction.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
News media weather "forecasters" are rarely professional meteorologists.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
This was because they worked in a big building inside with no windows. He said that when he was new he was working nights and he studied all of the info that they had, was about to post that it was going to be a sunny morning
Ain't that the truth. Salt Lake City, ca 1968. Late afternoon, summer, about 5:30. TV weatherman forecasting chance of showers.
While it was thunder, lightning and raining leopards and wolves right outside the studio door. I know, I was in a building across the street. A building with windows.

And now we return to our regular programming.
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
while gowing up in Tahoe we use to watch the weather on TV from Bay Area news channels. The most popular weatherman was Pete Giddings. We called him Pete's Kidding!!

He was frequently seen around the casinos wearing full length fur coats. We figured the casinos probably took good care of him to enusre good forecasts to bring the tourist up.
FredC

Boulder climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
That first unit of storm did very little down here in Watsonville. We do know how to do mud down here.

I am thinking to wax my skating skis because I am so ready to go but I don't want to mess up the whole winter by tempting fate.

Maybe I'll wash my car this afternoon.

Fred
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
No need to wash your car.
It's already raining hard and blowing near Castle Rock. Warm though. High freezing levels forecast for the Sierra.
So PLEASE don't tempt the Weather Gods by waxing your skis.

Sandy was an incredibly precise forcast.
Indeed. I was on Long Island as Sandy approached. The forecast for the big hook to the left was on Friday morning. Sandy's eye hit on Monday night within a few dozen miles of the forecast. Tidal surge and wind strength/direction forecasts were also spot on. A surprisingly reliable forecast for such an unusual storm.
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
Big difference between the scientists on the weather channel and some jack ass weather girl.

WTF, over.

I, for one, like a little T&A on the weather report.
John M

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
As long as the T&A isn't writing the script. Or has the brains to go along with the booty.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
Weather girls just report what the big data providers tell us
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 29, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
Weather girls just report what the big data providers tell us

yeah Karl, but it would be nice if they could understand what the data said
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 29, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
Data is easy, its model output thats tricky...heres what they had to choose from 5 days out...the two commonly used models for weather prediction in NA, WRF and GFS sent it out to sea...the Euro model ECMWF nailed it 5 days out.

mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
Remember Stromin Norman???? And why he was busted?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
OMG!!! California is going to be hit with a Pineapple Express system!!!!!

That NEVER happens!!!

Global Warmers were right, and the Climate Changers!!!! We are soooo gonna die!!!
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
Aloha gang,
Drinking Pinot here @ lax flight to sfo delayed. Was pretty low clouds when we landed but that could have been the merlot kicking in after 4:53 across the pond.

I only brought shorts, slippers, and aloha shirts so I hope it's sunny and warm in San Fran

Aloha,
Will
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
SLO, Ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
Expert forecaster:

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
Lol!

damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
"I only brought shorts, slippers, and aloha shirts so I hope it's sunny and warm in San Fran"
LOL-----head straight to the Tonga Room in the Fairmont.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
If you get upset because you put even a shred of faith in any forecast longer than 48 hours that's your own fault. Long range forecasts are a bit of a joke, imho.

BA at TWD is great. People just get pissed when the weather doesn't cooperate and the messenger makes a convenient scapegoat.
He's very open about not being a professional weatherman. His blog was a hobby that's grown due to its popularity. Feel free to watch the Reno TV weather man if you prefer.

It's blowing like an MFer here.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
jesus bombastic...that's a dumbell low..
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:05am PT
Pouring like crazy in the Central Valley!!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:29am PT
Been rockin' pretty hard since well before midnight in Newcastle.
MisterE

Social climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:44am PT
http://www.weather.com/news/weather-winter/mount-shasta-snow-extreme-20121129
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:45am PT
Reno

With the potential for localized flooding, starting today, sandbags and sand will be available for the public at three locations: Idlewild Park (located at 1900 Idlewild Drive); First Street at Riverside Drive; and the parking lot of the Governor’s Bowl Park (located at the end of Line Drive which is off of East Fourth Street). The sites and materials will be available between 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m., including Saturday and Sunday. Residents will need to bring a shovel to fill the sandbags. Should the potential for flooding and the need for sandbags increase, additional sandbag sites will be announced.

tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:17am PT
56 mph max gust this morning, third straight day with 50+ winds, with 1.37" of rain in Verdi today. 2.42" storm total so far, and still raining at a good clip.. this storm alone is probably going to be a substantial part of the annual precipitation here.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:21pm PT


Woodfords
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
100% chance of contrary internet BS ;).

Now, that's a forecast I would bet my life on.

truly laughing out loud. Bomz.. you da man.

WML.. thanks for the link. Looks like good stuff.

Ron..

i said that with the explicit purpose of FOOLING the rain gawds.. If I had predicted RAIN it woulda been dry as a p-corn fart. Yu may thank me now..;-)

Good come back.. LOL..
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
Pissing down hard around Auburn right now.....
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
i dont know of a cozier feeling than being in a tent listening to the rain..Its mesmorizing to us kneevaderns...

I prefer a cabin in the woods with a tin roof. I have had too many tents washed out from under me. Or woken up in too many puddles.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
Nice t*r!

I like this one better though...


[Click to View YouTube Video]
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
Big snowflakes mixing in with heavy rain at lake level.
Good to know it's snowing a bit higher.

Word is that Mt. Rose has had the best skiing this past week or so.

Shasta could get 14-18' (feet!) over the next four days, wow.
squishy

Mountain climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 04:42pm PT
I see blue sky in Sacramento, rain stopped about 40 minutes ago...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 30, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
Heavy snow falling here on the east side.....all day!

:-)

Next time your ole Uncle Dingus says a big storm is bearing down on Northern California.... make sure and buy the beer in advance

damnit Dingus, you always tell the best stories
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
T*R and Survival. I'll see you and raise.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
SLO, Ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
Raining here. I must have been watching the wrong weather report:

John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
Rain in the south

[Click to View YouTube Video]
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:11pm PT
Cry me a river.

I got to see him play that live..
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:17pm PT
snowing nicely here in Hilton crk, some good accumulation in town today,saw a buddy who was on the hill said Rogers was thigh deep.... :)
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
Well, somebody had to do it.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
4.5" of rain so far today here in Wawona
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:21pm PT
MisterE

Social climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
Nice day in the Gorge clipping bolts, started to sprinkle on the way out
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
Just under 4.5" of rain in Verdi since Wednesday so far.. this is the most I have seen here since I moved to Verdi in 2007 I think.
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
There's a very interesting story I found from socialclimber's link upthread, about "atmospheric rivers" and the 43 day deluge that flooded N Cal back in 1861. There's evidence this happens about every 200 years:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california

The intense rainstorms sweeping in from the Pacific Ocean began to pound central California on Christmas Eve in 1861 and continued virtually unabated for 43 days. The deluges quickly transformed rivers running down from the Sierra Nevada mountains along the state’s eastern border into raging torrents that swept away entire communities and mining settlements. The rivers and rains poured into the state’s vast Central Valley, turning it into an inland sea 300 miles long and 20 miles wide. Thousands of people died, and one quarter of the state’s estimated 800,000 cattle drowned. Downtown Sacramento was submerged under 10 feet of brown water filled with debris from countless mudslides on the region’s steep slopes. California’s legislature, unable to function, moved to San Francisco until Sacramento dried out—six months later.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
its good to be right http://www.skitheeast.net/posts/id/587489643/mt.-shasta-goes-nuclear your still lucky bastards
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
Good article about the Christmas flood of 1955.
http://www.tahoetopia.com/news/christmas-flood-1955-storm-century

Lets hope the results are not as bad this time.
Things are sounding a bit grim downstream of the Truckee R. in Reno/Sparks.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
I heard they are diverting the truckee towards Mound House , Nevada..I hope Honey Boo Boo has waterproofed his stuffed animals and crack supply....?
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
kunlun_shan, There is a description of the 1861 flood event in "Up and Down California" by William Brewer which is basically a diary of his years on the Whitney survey party from 1861 to 1864, most excellent read. Drop me a PM about skiing, likely heading out tomorrow for high ground.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:44pm PT
Kirkwood forecast for tonight is snow.....then mixed snow/rain tomorrow through Sunday. Snow level 8000 feet
YUCK
RAIN again starting Tuesday. At 8000 feet.
So much for skiing.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 30, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
Call that a storm?

Meh? I knew everyone was selling it...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:14am PT
Hard to say how bad it will be. Hopefully not to many properties involved. But historically we get floods at least once every decade so most residents here are pretty aware if it is a problem for their home or business.


Where to get sandbags for Reno/Sparks Washoe County NV

http://floodawareness.com/136/where_to_get_sand_bags.html
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:22am PT
shasta news

http://www.examiner.com/article/california-s-mount-shasta-could-set-world-record-with-18-feet-of-snow-4-days
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:57am PT
This system has been a lightweight for S Calif, only about a 1/2" storm total here.

It does look like a pineapple express flow is setting up pulling water up from over the SE Asia and off the Tibetan Plateau, then north of Hawaii. that's when it seems to hit us. Maybe we'll get a real storm in a week or so.

If the flow is up from the equator and south of Hawaii, like this system started out, it seems to hit north of Pt. Conception and we don't get much.

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/satellite/ssec/wide-view-us-pacific-asia-sat.html

Here's the best piece I've seen on 1861.

http://www.redlandsfortnightly.org/papers/Taylor06.htm

No comparison at all to this. It destroyed 1/3 of the tax base in the state and drowned 1/4 of the cattle.

The flood ended the California cattle ranch industry and destroyed the ranchero social order.

For a week the tides at the Golden Gate did not flood, rather there was continuous and forceful ebb of brown fresh water 18-20 feet deep pouring out above the salt water. A sea captain reported that his heavily laden ship foundered in the Gulf of the Farallons off of San Francisco, due to the layer of fresh water. Fresh-water fish were caught in San Francisco Bay for several months after the peaks of the flood. These events have not happened since. (Ellis 1936)
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
bigs storms usually do mean great fishing in the bay. It's kind of like flushing the toilet. Out with the old and in with the new
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Call that a storm?

Bluey.....nah....not the BIGGEST storm I've ever seen up here on Castle Rock Ridge. There was that one in......
but I digress
6" rain since Thursday. And still raining. 1" overnight and it didn't feel like it was raining at all by comparison to Thurs night.

c'mon up to Castle Rock for some slick rock bouldering.....bring your Wellies! your snorkel too and we'll do the falls routes.

For a week the tides at the Golden Gate did not flood, rather there was continuous and forceful ebb of brown fresh water 18-20 feet deep pouring out above the salt water
And now we have a dozen or so big dams on the Sacramento/San Joaquin so that's not likely to happen again.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
In terms of the ability of dams to do much flood control in a storm series like those big historical ones, don't get your hopes up. Dams do a pretty good job on the normal and usual storms, as there is only so much water management they can accomplish. Once it gets a little unusual, like in 1998 when dam flood control was basically overwhelmed, dams pretty mcuh stop working, because when the reservoir is full, its like the dam isn't even there. Water in always has to equal water out, so those historical flood conditions might not be as unexpected as you are assuming.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
The devastation caused by gold miners may have had something to do with the impacts of the flood of 1861. They created a huge amount of deforestation, especially in the foothills.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:55pm PT
so those historical flood conditions might not be as unexpected as you are assuming.
Yes, I was thinking about the possible massive overtopping. Less likely because with a forecast, extra water can be released from the reservoirs in advance. But still possible.

And then there are the unusual, but certainly possible again, conditions that created the Yosemite Valley flood of 1997.

MH.....yup.....also the upturning of the stream beds bringing rock to the top and placer mining washing the topsoil away.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
Hydraulic mining was a minor contributing factor in the 1861 flood. Mostly in the debris that it liberated down stream that tore up log dams and retaining basins.

The Sacramento, and San Joaqin valleys were lakes for almost a month and Orange County was an inland sea for three weeks. Flow of the Santa Ana river at the narrows was an estimated 320,000 CFS To give that some perspective the average flow of the Missippi is 450,000 CFS.

Even the Mojave river was 20' above flood stage and most of the desert lake beds filled.

I doubt the flood cotrol system could handle it at either end of the state.

For example even if Prado Dam did hold in a repeat of 1861 there would be a deep lake streching from Pomona to Redlands and from the San Gabriels to Corona that would take months to drain without wiping out Anaheim and the coastal cities.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
hey there say, TGT...

as to this qoute of yours:

Hydraulic mining was a minor contributing factor in the 1861 flood. Mostly in the debris that it liberated down stream that tore up log dams and retaining basins.

The Sacramento, and San Joaqin valleys were lakes for almost a month and Orange County was an inland sea for three weeks. Flow of the Santa Ana river at the narrows was an estimated 320,000 CFS To give that some perspective the average flow of the Missippi is 450,000 CFS.

Even the Mojave river was 20' above flood stage and most of the desert lake beds filled

WOW--the things that they did NOT teach us in our calif history...
wish they had...
thanks for sharing... i never knew of this...



also, say, ron:
neat pics of the past flooding, etc...
thanks for sharing...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
hey there say, all you calif folks near this area:

brentwood, etc..


i got a friend there and she's said that she often wonders what wuold
happened, and/or, what it would take to make those levee's overflow...

she's fairly certain it just might flood her home, if they did...

they've had up to two inches around there home, from hard rains...
(not sure if she ment now, from the storm, or from a past one--put it IS raining-wet there, now) ...

thanks for any shares or thoughts or knowledge on this...
:)


edit:

say, i think, though i did not read the article, but:
it LOOKS like there is another storm system ALREADY coming
in, next, really soon?
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:32pm PT
Discovery Bay, right next to Brentwood and many central Delta areas are protected by one measly levee with some Delta properties actually lying under high tide line. That area is a massive disaster waiting to happen.

Probably not this time, but a similar series of storms on top of a huge snowpack might do it.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
uhm… maybe its just me or something…


BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BIG STORM IN CALIFORNIA!!!



Ok, there have been storms… but given that these 3 "big" storms look nothing larger than I've ever seen before in my life. I am inclined to believe that this one is of no more significants than any other "fall weather"…. rainy, cloudy, foggy (in my area), cold….. Overall, the 3-pack of clouds has nothing in them.

I can change my mind when I see more under water than not under water



To be honest there seems to be nothing out of the ordinary with this weather….But I guess with Sandy hitting the east the west wants to get back some of that tragedy attention, I guess.

But then again…. people almost never do that… do they?
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
Hundreds of homes in Weston Ranch, Just south of Stockton were built on a flood plane. Crappy homes that sold for over 5k and now worth about 2K. Just stupid they ever built there except for the developers.
John M

climber
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
Why does big automatically get misconstrued as biggest?

Are you all retarded?

I was sort of wondering the same thing, though I was thinking in terms of being misconstrued as catastrophic. I understood that you were just stoked for the potential of some serious snow. If it had snowed down just a little bit lower it would have been fantastic.

In their defense, there were a number of news reports that focused on how potentially enormous it could have been.
John M

climber
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
Well sh#t.. I knew it was benign. Didn't' think about climbers going out in it.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 1, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
I had the flu this week, that sh#t is viral!

Five bucks says Dingus will post a TR about the flu!

Ten bucks that it will be brilliant!
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Dec 1, 2012 - 10:18pm PT
Partied at the Fed for the past two days now screaming down the runway of SFO rain flying by....oops I'm not supposed to be online. OMG the government told me knott to due this.


Will be warm and in the blue pacific by morning. Course if we crash.....will stil be in he pacific!

Kick that flus ass DMT!

Aloha,

WS

As we rise up and it's pouring fairly well, I'll lose my connection around 8k Have a great weekend! Get outdoors

Edit: over oh ah who now, we got steady rain for over 321 mlles out of SFO. Then we broke free but still danced all the way to the Islands.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:58am PT
http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/the-big-one

The winds will really start to crank tonight as storm #3 approaches with gusts as high as hurricane force at 75mph in the valleys and up to category 4 hurricane strength at 150 mph over the ridges. The the heavy precip begins to push in during the early morning hours and the snow levels shoot up to 9000+ ft. This should only last several hours before colder air works in as the cold front approaches. Sunday morning the snow levels should drop back down to 8000 ft. and then 7000 by midday and lake level by evening.

The forecast models are in good agreement that 2-3 inches of liquid will fall over the basin and 3-4 inches West of the lake along the crest. Above 9000 ft. we could see 2-3 feet with 3-4 along the crest. Below that the forecast gets tricky as it depends on how fast the cold air works in. I think we could see accumulating snow all the way to lake level by Sunday evening if enough precip is still around. Between 7000-9000 ft. 1-3 feet are possible and several inches below that
.
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Dec 2, 2012 - 11:43am PT
thank god the snow levels are high. if all this had been snow we would be fuked.
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
Check out this radar return.


That squall line looks pretty intense
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Ekat...that's some dirty looking snow...RJ
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
Ekat...that's some dirty looking snow...RJ

Damn dude.. don't make me laugh so hard. hahaha..


Hey Ekat.. you said they moved the ski area to a different area of the mountain. Did they move it lower?
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
After a long night and morning of total wind lashing torrential downpour,it just turned to snow here at 7,100ft at Donner Summit!! Sticking, coming down hard...Really hoping we can get a foot or two to stick on our rain sogged base today...Wonder whats happening near the river in Truckee?

Peter
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
it will just be another dry ass windstorm..;-)

Good call.

Edit;
The Ski Park doesn't even do AC.

Nothing steep enough?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
Skiing on 30 year old yellow klister yesterday...Pulled it out of the fridge next to the EPO stash...Now i have a collage of pine needles stuck to my bases....Snow-rain here at 7600 feet...
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
7000 feet. Gack.. thats Sierra Cement territory.
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
It Swedish and means glue. Or cement.
:-)

well, if you don't use it, the snow will definitely be glued to the bottom of your skis. :-)
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
Ekat Big Mtn is outta whitefish right? Went there a few years ago and really liked the area.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Klister? I just met her...
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Cool RottingJohnny! Yellow klister is gross, but sometimes good skiing...If it keeps dumping, and puts enough on the ground to soak up the deep puddles, I will go out and train, ie. break trail, then do a bunch of laps in my Salomon 88's. Will you be at the Tannebaum race on the 16th? Maybe see you there!

Peter
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
Yeah, liked the area, the people, the food, and the snow. Want to go back and check out Glacier NP in the summertime.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:14pm PT
Maysho...I may show for the Tannebaum...Get it..May show..? I don't get to play as much anymore but the fire in the belly still smolders...Racing is more fun when you can go fast and less painful too...The yellow Klister worked pretty damn well...RJ
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
Ekat...Where the heck are you...? Montana or Shasta..? If you are in Montana that would mean a suckafish is near whitefish...I ski slow and still ended up in Bridgeport , the inner bred capital of the eastside...
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
great day for a big wall,
if your name f*#king name is
sir reagan.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
Wow, perhaps a perfect ending?

GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...TRUCKEE...
INCLINE VILLAGE
900 AM PST SUN DEC 2 2012

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM PST THIS AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND GUSTY WINDS...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM
PST THIS AFTERNOON.

* TIMING: A COLD FRONT WILL DROP SNOW LEVELS BELOW 7000 FEET THIS
MORNING WITH PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW INTO THE AFTERNOON.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS: 10 TO 16 INCHES ABOVE 7000 FEET WITH 4 TO 8
INCHES AT LAKE LEVEL. ABOVE 8000 FEET...2 FEET OR MORE OF SNOW
IS EXPECTED.

* SNOW LEVELS: NEAR 8000 FEET THIS MORNING...FALLING BELOW 7000
FEET BY NOON. SNOW LEVEL WILL REACH LAKE LEVEL BY MID-AFTERNOON.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
I just threw away a sh!tpile of old klister. I'm soo done with that sh!t.
There's better things to do on klister days. I'll let ya know when I find one.

The one gud thing about klister?
It fools you into thinking you don't have a 'late' kick.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
I prefer a waxless pattern over klister. I've got a tube. It has exactly one sessions worth of glue missing and that's it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
It should never squirt out and over your sidewalls. . . NEVER!

UFF DA - LOL!
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Crazy ass wind and rain last night and early this morning... Our power came back on a hour ago and the sun is out...yippy!!!

Going hiking to check out water levels in the upper section of Bidwell park...Chico.


Speaking of Parks...another Park, 5 hours away.
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
just started snowing on the north shore @ 6200
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:49pm PT
The sun just came out and the power just went out....
10b4me

Boulder climber
u.s. 395
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
looks like the next few days will be dry
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:93529.1.99999
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:23pm PT
eKat, feeling yer pain. But it is a First World Problems pain. ;-)
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Good day to swim up Royal Arches. Snorkel required.

4" rain on Castle Rock ridge last night. Winds gusting (probably) over 60. Calm now but still rainin' like a cow pi**in' on a flat rock.

For a good description of the floods of 1861-62 see Book III, Chapter I of "Up and Down California" by William F. Brewer (University of California Press). This is an excellent book about California, Dec 1860 - Dec 1864
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
Scientific American article will be published in print in Jan issue. They've posted it on the web due to the current heavy California rains. Worth reading.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
Thanks HT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
Oh, and Lolli, you're surprised that we call it klister?
What did you think we called it, ost?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
I'm stoked for the Sierra.

Please schralp the gnar for me this week.

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 2, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
Looks like the snow levels dropped a bit which allowed Reno/Sparks to dodge the flood bullet barely.

Very cool.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
Final storm tally in Verdi: 7.62" rain, 58 mph max wind gust. Truckee is up with trees floating down the river, but not too bad really.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Dec 3, 2012 - 12:25am PT
Nice pfoto Cragman. RE: the topic - Saw on the Yosemite webcams that the Merced had risen quite a bit this afternoon, and Yosemite falls was about Spring runoff volume. Would be a good time to break out the spinning rod.
WBraun

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 12:27am PT
But these pussy California rivers

Yep

When I was in Borneo the fuking river rose 10 feet over night in one little storm during the night.

Me and Hoover where on top of one of the towers in a dome tent and it rained so hard it pushed the tent poles straight down on top of us.

I love the jungle where its moist, warm, sh!t crawls everywhere, you sink in mud and bugs attack incessantly.

Jungle is very nice not like stupid Americans who make stupid sterile shopping malls ......
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:49am PT
hey there, say, t*r, wow, thanks for the share,

:)
MisterE

Social climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:54am PT
Werner according to my calculations, you just used up your life-time limit on the word "stupid".

Please find an appropriate substitute for the remainder of your existence.

A thesaurus is really nice for these redundancy limits.

:)

Upon further review, you share this honor with Locker, who creatively chose "sutpid" as his alternative use.
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:09am PT
^LOL
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:24am PT
that was a really disappointing book, imho.
it was a struggle for me to finish.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
The movie was better than I expected but I've heard the book is excellent.
For those of us with ADD the movie will have to do. But the Meerkats were
a bit much.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
If i do get my flu shot, that's what makes me fat, right?

lol
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
We got 9 inches or rain here in Wawona and 10.5 inches at the south gate in 5 days. If that had been snow at badger it would have been epic. High snow lines and just enough time between to empty the streams and it did no damage.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
Haven't seen the movie, but Life of Pi was a most excellent book.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:07pm PT

...SELECTED STORM TOTAL RAINFALL IN INCHES FROM 400 PM PST TUE NOV
27 THROUGH 600 AM PST MON DEC 03...

...CALIFORNIA...
BRANDY CREEK (SHASTA) 23.48
STERLING CITY (FEATHER) 21.24
SIMS 17.90
PETROLIA 7.4 SE 17.50
NORTH COAST CAMP SIX 16.64
BRIDGEVILLE 5.2 ENE 15.72
OAK MOUNTAIN 15.16
MIRANDA 4.1 SW 14.98
CAZADERO 6.9 WNW 14.45
KINGVALE 1.3 WSW 14.37
LOS GATOS 6.1 S 13.89
BLUE CANYON 13.41
REDWAY 1.8 WSW 13.39
BRANDY CRK 12.60
SECRET TOWN 12.55
BEALE AFB/MARYSVILLE 9.55
SAN FRANCISCO INTL AIRPORT 4.09

If that 23 inches of rain had fallen as snow..
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
8 1/2" total for storm.
Near Castle Rock
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 05:26pm PT
I understand that Ekat. All I meant was that the moisture was in that storm and if just a few small things would have been different, such as snow level, then we could have had more epic conditions.

Plus the storm spread itself out just enough to keep many streams and rivers from flooding.

Some people were saying that this really wasn't that big of a storm. I was refuting that. 23 inches is a whole lot of moisture. So was the 9 inches we got here in Wawona.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
Sucka fish creek got 6 inches....RJ
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
The same storm piled up a bunch of snow in Idaho's Mountains.

Some of it avalanched on Sun Valley's ski mountain, but since it happened at night, no deaths or injuries.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Avalanche-at-Sun-Valleys-Bald-Mountain-181917921.html?fb_action_ids=3959837565494&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%223959837565494%22%3A252776234851774%7D&action_type_map=%7B%223959837565494%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]

SUN VALLEY -- The Sun Valley Ski Patrol reported an avalanche Monday morning.

Jack Sibbach, Marketing and Public Relations Director for the Sun Valley Company, said, "This was a big one."

Sibbach said the avalanche occurred on Lookout Bowl and slid down the length of the mountain. The Ski Patrol noticed the slide and reported it Monday morning. There is no way of knowing exactly when the avalanche occurred, according to Sibbach.

Sibbach said a pile of snow from the avalanche had gathered at the base of the Seattle Ridge lift. There was no damage to the lift.

Lookout Bowl was not open at the time of the avalanche and is currently still closed.

No one was injured in the naturally occurring slide.

Sibbach said the resort has received 35 inches of new snow since Friday. Winds were high and visibility was low on Sunday. In fact, the resort had to close a few lifts Sunday because of high winds.

Tuesday update:


The Sawtooth National Forest Avalanche Center is reporting considerable avalanche danger in the Sawtooths, along with the North, Central, and South Wood River Valley.

Scott Savage with the avalanche center says two factors are contributing to the avalanche danger.
The first factor, or primary avalanche concern, is a layer of wind affected snow called a "slab" that built up during last weekend's storm.

The second factor, or secondary avalanche concern, is made of two weakened layers in the snowpack buried deep beneath much of the snow in higher elevations.

Anyone going into these mountain areas is cautioned to read the avalanche center's full report, and stay below higher elevations with open, exposed slopes.
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