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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 27, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
In the range of 5" of rain in Sacramento by Sunday... that's like FIVE FEET of snow on the crest of the Sierra.

I'm just sayin... old man winter is riding the Alaskan express with a tropical depression up his ass. Get ready for some good old fashioned California dumpology.

Don't get caught unawares!

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:27pm PT
it will just be another dry ass windstorm..;-)
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:29pm PT

Leave some moisture in them clouds and send it
to Colodryo!
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
DMT, sorry but I don't see any significant storm pattern in your posted image. Looks pretty scattered and unorganized.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
GOOD! BRING ON THE SNOW! My forecast is showing rain up high in tahoe, wtf!!!!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2012 - 09:35pm PT
Here you go Kalimon - the storm track. The fresh maker is the innocuous clouds behind the trough under the arrowhead of the leftern most arrow. See those clouds? That signals an Alaskan storm fueled by tropical moisture. I

This one's a snow maker.... maybe not. Still pretty warm. May fall as rain - at least there's no snow pack to melt.

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DMT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
Yeah, I'm getting the same forecast V. is getting: rain up here. Since I'm injured, I've approved precipitation. Since I can't shovel snow right now, I have only approved rain. Sorry, guys.
Gene

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
Gotta work outside tomorrow in Dos Palos and Merced. Not gonna be much fun.

g
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:46pm PT
Lot's of rain coming to tahoe.....f*#k
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
John M

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
I like this guys discussion.

http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/

also Howards page for mammoth

http://mammothweather.com/
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:55pm PT
Like spokes of a wheel, DMT.

Credit: JOEY.F
The acacia rolled onto the power line Thanksgiving eve...

Credit: JOEY.F
New mast for the power line and tree removed yesterday. I raked the roof and cleaned the gutters.
Next?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 27, 2012 - 09:57pm PT
good news for surfers...
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
"Leftern Most"....Is that a technical term?
;-)
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
you lucky bastards!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
Yup!

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=pmdspd
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
ULLR ! ! ! ULLR ! ! ! ULLR ! ! !

Credit: Jim Brennan
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
With my broken ankle I can wait for some nice powder a couple of months :-/
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
$heeeeeit.
Flood watch and nothing but a $hit ton of rain around here.
Kwood will officially have a very solid base after this but what falls ain't gonna be blower. The lower resorts are literally going to get hosed.

Good timing for me since next week is finals.

Check out the forecast for Shasta.
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.39741506646461&lon=-122.20916748046875

//7-DAY FORECAST

Tonight Snow after 4am.
Total nighttime snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Wednesday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 16 to 22 inches possible.

Wednesday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.

Thursday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 29 to 35 inches possible.

Thursday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 37 to 43 inches possible.

Friday Snow.
New snow accumulation of 23 to 29 inches possible.

Friday Night Snow.
New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Saturday Snow.
Saturday Night Snow.
Sunday Snow.
Sunday Night Snow showers likely.//


I can't even add up all that snow.
I've got some time off after December 7th, am thinking of a Lassen/Shasta skiesta. Anyone else want to come?
John M

climber
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Holy Avalanche batman !@#$!!! Those are some big numbers.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
Milk Toast...Did you take those storm pics on your last plane flight...? RJ
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
hey there say, DMT... i just heard about this from my other brother, out in calif...

thanks for sharing....
:O


seems folks may be getting flooded, :O
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
100 mill's on friday but looking kind of warm.

http://wxmaps.org/pix/avnmr.72hr.html


Monday looking much better however


Good luck!
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:19pm PT
it will just be another dry ass windstorm
"1 foot of snow and 10 feet of wind"
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:26pm PT
"rain possible". There's your good old CA weather forecast. Like politics, we don't want to commit to much.....:D lynne
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Nov 27, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
Great link Bruce !
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:26am PT
hey there say, moosedrool... get well soon!...

and say, t*r... keep safe... if any doubts, move on out for a bit...
flash floods, or ?wate-gushes? can affect roads when folks least expect it, too...

my brother is up higher, but occasionaly he will travel those areas, too...
good thing when we can plan ahead...
:)
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:30am PT
I'm praying the goods get brought to kwood. As someone said earlier, they should have a solidddd base after this blasting.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Nov 28, 2012 - 04:57am PT
it's called rain and snow

happens from time to time

part of life

and death

rainier gets 105 feet of snow daily,

but it gets melted by pyroclastic mud flows as soon as it hits,

this gets converted to rainier ale, on sale at your local safeway,

why not pick up a 12 pack today, along with a pack of altoids for the cops,

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:00am PT
And flowers for Algernon?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 07:54am PT
That Rainier Ale is some good sh#t...Give me some stelazine and chase it with a quart bottle of Green Death and watch the cops pour you into the 15 or less aisle...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Nov 28, 2012 - 07:58am PT
Bring it!!!!!!!!

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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 09:14am PT
Phase 1. Not raining here yet so far as I can tell.

DMT
Borut

climber
french, spider, cheater
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:21am PT
Hi!
What do you mean you can't tell?

Borut
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:38am PT
the lands were shaped by rain-high altitude rain.
good for the cali ice climber,
voodoo
voodoo
Credit: Stewart Johnson
sucks for the skier.
Peter

Trad climber
San Francisco
Nov 28, 2012 - 09:55am PT
Phase 2

Raining now, as far as I can tell. Guess those stairs won't get finished today.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:38am PT
Rain has arrived in Redding.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:46am PT
Raining in Chico, .bummer...

We still have beautiful autumn colors on the trees.....

Now the wind and the rain will wash it all away...........sigh....
yesterday in Chico before this rain started
yesterday in Chico before this rain started
Credit: nita
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:53am PT
still dry up at tahoe but the big green blob on the radar is headed our way.
predicted snow levels don't seem as dreary this morning although the big storm saturday night into sunday still looks pretty warm.
it's still early in the winter.
sempervirens

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:57am PT
Raining in Chico, means it must be heading our way. I'm in eastern Plumas County at 5000' and not a drop yet. It was about 40 degrees at 5:00 am this morning. Warm, too warm. And too cloudy to see the lunar eclipse.
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:04am PT
the lands were shaped by rain-high altitude rain.
good for the cali ice climber,


I like that, but want to ski also.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:06am PT
45 degrees, full overcast, breeze picking up at 6900ft. We'll see....

Waiting to find out whether Im buying ski boots or ice tools this year. Last year was rad for ice up here...
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:08am PT
Raing hard just north of Stockton.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 11:10am PT
This one is warm because its a Pineapple Express. As the front moves on shore its dragging a 2000 mile plume of water with it... all the way from Hawaii. You could see it in some of the radar returns.

The storm this weekend should be a bit colder with the Gulf of Alaska cold front behind it. Not super cold it seems, but colder than the first un.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 11:14am PT
So check it out, here you can see the subtropical moisture from way out in the Pacific, starting near Hawaii. Red arrows.

Round Two of the storm is still winding itself up. That is still the snow maker imo. We shall see.

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DMT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:16am PT
It ain't fair I tell ya!
Yous NorCalers have all the fun!

Credit: Reilly
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:17am PT
Further north, Oregon is going to get the goods.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:20am PT
It's been grey in Colodryo for days and no moisture in sight.

WTF!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:22am PT
Goat, awesome! But I thought a Unisys was a computer? Where'd you get that?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:24am PT
yes i see your pineapple connection going south- to AZ for their monsoon season, and i see the system above going north- per ususal. in bowling term the perfect split. Redding will catch it,, Tuscon will catch it and we will have some fin winds later!

jmo
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:24am PT
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/nepac/flash-rb.html
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:26am PT
That's a beaut, Wendel! I think I'll stare at it the rest of the day.
WBraun

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:29am PT
Rain is coming.

Nice carrots will grow again ......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:30am PT
Yeah, Dingus, I hacked the Unisys mail system for the whole state of Alaska
BITD. It was a hoot reading people's mail and then sending them cryptic
messages. When I told the IT peeps about their hole they wouldn't believe me.
Until I told 'em what was in their mailboxes. BwaHaHaHa!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:44am PT
ill bet FIVE HUNDRED ------------------- pennies that the tahoe general area receives very little precip as most will go south and north.

Local weather here says not much until sat/sun and that will be rain. As of now NV is 100% dry.


There is ONE indicator every time we receive significant systems into our area up here--called the "Sierra Wave" ==a lenticular formation caused by the crest of the sierras and lee side effects, and we havent had one yet.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:48am PT
Ron, I thought we were all aware of the rain shadow effect around here? Anyway, those CA types don't give a crap what lands on this side of the range this far north ;). Well, unless they're 80 and are still catching the gambler's special up to that nice John Ascuagua boy's place.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:54am PT
Just lookin at the patterns Jeebs- there ISNT a trace of snow on NV peaks- ELY is bone dry as well. Deer are still up HIGH too. When the aneemules move- you know something significant is coming. We could USE the rain and snow, but im thinkin this wont be the "one" to do it. No wave no tickei ,, no f*ckie!

Of course i actually pray the the old catch 22 gets me- since im posting of how it WONT,, maybe,, just maybe it WILL!;-) (reverso psyche 101)
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:54am PT
The snow fall above 8 to 9,000 ft. is going to be biblical. Kirkwood and Mammoth are the best bets for dumpage.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:57am PT
I just hope that Rottingjohnny's handlers can keep him under control until
his wax fully sets up.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:58am PT
The best bets for dumpage at this time in the morning ain't at Mammoth or Kirkwood either.... ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:58am PT
i MUST prepare the ,,,,,SLEDZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


=1 for Jeebs,, ive already experienced dumpage this am,, right on schedule..
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
Heavy Rain in Santa Cruz...I'm waxing....


Susan
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
bikini style??^^^^^^
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
Raining and blowing pretty well in Auburn already.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Nov 28, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
im now sittin on a couch
sippin coors outta a bottle,
next to a piss-fir-fire
in the strawberry lodge.

rain and wind out the window.
ski's?
no.
skirt?
maybe.
beliefs?
fvk 'em.

jesus the utility poles stand taller than
any tree bold enough to tease tall horizons.

we are a stupid fvcking lot and
no jesus will not pull up your socks.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
60% chance on Sunday of rain, pretty high for here. Let it rain, let it rain, let rain, it works out perfectly for my injured ass. No TRs of any kind I (jealously) care about from you lot ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
did you pull something??
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
Webcam at kirkwood sure looks like snow to me
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
did you pull something??


Nope.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
I forbid this wetness.

ABOMINATION!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh

Nov 28, 2012 - 10:19am PT
did you pull something??


Nope.





break somethin??
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
Emailed ya, Ron. 'Nuff said.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:45pm PT
cloud base is rising, broken to the west.. AInt seen nary a drop o rain.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
the butte may be good...rain shadowed-- often keeps it dry.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
Dumping snow nicely here at Donner Summit! Hoping for a couple of feet today and tonight, so we can handle some heavy rain, then more snow...Might go out and ski in a training track for today before it gets too deep. yeah for winter!

ps. How about those US XC Ski Team Women! First World Cup last weekend. Kikkan Randall Third place 10k! US Womens team 3rd in the relay! Best results ever...

Peter

Credit: Maysho
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
Perhaps a Donner party moment coming up? Lord knows we need the moisture.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
dry as a p-corn fart here..:-/
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
Notice Dingus that the WV imagery, posted a page back, shows dry air over Hawaii and that the storm has just a small straw into some subtropical moisture much closer to the coast. Also notice that you have a split flow in the jet stream, you can make it out in all the satellite shots but also in the link Bruce posted.

This is going to take away from the full force of the storm, in addition the small straw into the sub tropical moisture doesnt help, if your hoping for copius amounts of precip.

split flow from bruces link, a weak arm aimed at WA/BC



notice the small "atmospheric river" from the sub-tropical moisture plume



current sat shot, notice you just dont have a good flow from the subtropics



larger image here

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/nexsat-bin/nexsat.cgi?BASIN=CONUS&SUB_BASIN=focus_regions&CCA=NorthAmerica-x-x&SSC=x-x-x&AGE=Latest&SIZE=Full&PRODUCT=vis_ir_background&SUB_PRODUCT=goes&DISPLAY=Single&PATH=NorthAmerica-x-x/x-x-x/vis_ir_background/goes&CURRENT=2

a true atmospheric river, pineapple express type thing looks like this

straight from hawaii to california



never the less it looks like you have a nice storm brewing, just could be better :)

background idea for these things
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
Lovin' it..but I've gotta fly to Pa for a few days for my Dad's 90th birthday...hope to return to SNOW SNOW in the Sierras...or Bridger Bowl, Bozeman... we shall see...

Susan
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Yeah, was raining pretty good here. Not seeing the "snow maker" though and I'm NOT complaining. Keep it that mess up on the ski resorts where it belongs ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
strike that-- its raining here now.. butte will be wet.
Jeremy

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Nov 28, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
Sunny and perfect bouldering weather here in Albuquerque...now if I could only get away from work and this computer...

I might need a pick-me-up beer...hmmm...

WOO HOO!!!

J
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
Hey, it beats pulling the same pud you've had since birth ;).
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
dint last long,, breaking to the west...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:23pm PT
You say it like there's something wrong. Throw on some tunes and pull duh plastic, Weston!
John M

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
dint last long,, breaking to the west...

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Poor Ron

I'm being followed by a rain shadow
Rain shadow Rain shadow
Leaping and hopping on a Rain shadow
Rain shadow Rain shadow


Kind of curious Ron.. what do you mean by ..

ill bet FIVE HUNDRED ------------------- pennies that the tahoe general area receives very little precip as most will go south and north.

Do you mean everything east of the mountains? haha
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
Yep... no watah fo duh un lubbed...

just another weak system breezin through..



edit: No,,, the whole area..i can see east shore clouds from here -dont look like much imo.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
It's coming down in W Reno! I love a good rain storm. I grew up in Sacramento, so I prefer to get socked in with rain announcing itself with a pitter patter, not the silent creeping burglar of snow playing tricks and hiding the world from view unbeknownst.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:53pm PT
That and the lack of gators must make you a wide-eyed school kid!

I really don't mind snow that much, it just doesn't do much for me since I don't actively engage in the snow sports.

I guess I may have to find something to put the ipod on whilst in that place.


Or you could listen to City Lights or whatever crappy dub step shite they wanna play. Every so often some good rootsy music though.

How torn down is the place still after the last comp?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:54pm PT
we got sun spots peekin through now and then. butte will be good tomorrow.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
ill revise on sat eve then.;-)
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
Just got home from Reno...rain or snowed most of the way. Heavy wet snow here at home...roads are CRAZY slippery!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
Looked like highest chances of rain locally were for Sunday....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
shoulda taken the back way Crag!;-)
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Nov 28, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
I'm not a back door kinda guy, Ron.

:)
Forest

Trad climber
Denver, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 06:34pm PT
Riley, where did you ski? We've gotten a whole lot of dick and squat out here in CO.

All the resorts I'm aware of that are open are on man-made.

Send some our way!
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
My bad DMT . . . looks like you know your Pacific weather patterns quite well!

Enjoy the moisture, it is extremely dry and mild here, hopefully we will see some precip. also.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:33pm PT
In verdi, nv (just W of reno), 0.81" of rain so far and 55 mph max wind gust on the home weather station today. Not bad for the weakest wave of the system. I think this one is probably real.
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
Town of mammoth got about 3"-5" of snow...... but it was raining when I left my job site.... bet the top got hammered .... most likely will be good wind-buff after the blow-out winds following this system.... doubt it will be pow with these warm temps.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
Round two comes in tomorrow with 40 mph gusts here in the valley. We'll get close to 5 inches out of these storms as there is a 3rd one coming in directly behind the 2ndun.

DMT
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
Reilly....The only thing my handlers are waxing is my thong line and the cottage cheese beneath it..
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:14pm PT
The weekend is looking absolutely spectacular for you guys. Maybe even horribly spectacular!

I wouldn't want to living beside any creeks or big loose hill sides - heads way up on this one


http://wxmaps.org/pix/avnmr.48hr.html
Double D

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
Y'all have your sights slightly amiss...
Jess say'n
Jess say'n
Credit: Double D
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 28, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
Cracks me up OP is so committed to this thread. Always good to warn noobs, but they don't heed it usually.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. They forecast Sandy demolishing New York almost a whole week out with erie accuracy on all counts. I think forecasters have made leaps and bounds in the past decade or so. I hope they're wrong at least in terms of the precip amounts. No one needs 250 mills in 3 days! I bet you guys also hope they're off in freezing levels eh?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
Step-in snowboarders only sit down when they're tired. We don't run no "strappy Nelsons"...Those guys missed the boat. Poor bastards.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:58am PT
Has anybody posted this link ?
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?mm5d1_e_pcp3+///3
Sure looks like N CA is going to be pounded. Wishin' all yooz to batten down the hatches and use your avalanche poodles when out on the hills.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:11am PT
You're all a bunch of weather wankers and pussies and full of wind.

God gave us Gore-Tex and we still talk about the weather! Sheesh!

As if we can do anything! F'n Dingus...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:16am PT
Send it to the mountains where it belongs. Spare the desert!! There's more climbing to be done!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:37am PT
Minor Truckee Flooding Possible by Weekend.

Been about 7 years since last one.. Hopefully not this time but...

The National Weather Service in Reno has issued a
* Flood Watch for
the Truckee River at Vista
* from Sunday afternoon to Monday afternoon.
* At 1:15 PM Wednesday the stage was 4.4 feet.
* Minor flooding is possible.
* Flood stage is 15.0 feet.
* Forecast... flood stage may be reached by Sunday afternoon.
* Impact... at 15.0 feet... minor flooding begins in lowest portions
of the Truckee Meadows, including Truckee River bike path through
Sparks, University farm, Boynton Slough, Rosewood lakes Golf
course. High stages on the Truckee begin to cause backwater
flooding from storm drains in lower Sparks Industrial area, and
along Steamboat Creek.

Flood watch in effect for other areas of CA and NV. Don't be dumb out there.
-----------------------------------


RENO http://www.reno.gov/index.aspx?page=1294

If you or your business may be in the affected areas here is where you can get free sandbags.

Due to the current weather forecast and the potential for flooding, sandbags and sand will be available to the public at one location beginning Saturday, Dec. 18 at 8 a.m. This site will be accessible and materials will be available daily between the hours of 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., including this Saturday and Sunday.

Parking lot of Governors Bowl Park located at the end of Line Drive off of East Fourth Street. Line Drive is on the North side of East Fourth Street just East of Sixth Street.

BYOS (Bring Your Own Shovel)

Play Video

Watch a video on how to properly use sandbags
Please be advised that you will need to bring a shovel and fill the sandbags yourself.

Should the potential for flooding and the demand for sandbags increase, we will activate additional sandbag sites pursuant to the city's flood action plan.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:53am PT
Yes up at Donner the fluffy 5 inches has been sogged down to 1 by rain...still going to head out for a saturated ski workout, gotta get what I can, someday it will snow, and we will have races!

Peter
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:05am PT
YES Jaybro, i agree, please spare the desert!!!!
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:50am PT
The Mammoth Mtn web cams are really quite humorous.

Credit: TwistedCrank
rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
http://ca.water.usgs.gov/webcams/truckee/webcam-oper.html
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
You guys aren't alone... This is never a good sign....
Looking wet up there....
Looking wet up there....
Credit: Big Mike
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
When I worked at Squaw Valley in 1980, we had a good 6' base by New Years day. A few days later we got hit by the Pineapple Express and it rained continuously for 3 days. The whole East Face of KT-22, Reddog and Reddog Ridge climax avalanched. It took out most of the lower lift towers of Olympic Lady and ruined a lot of buzzez that winter. There were 4' water erosion channels on most of the Mountain Run. This winter could shape up to be something similar IMO.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:28pm PT
Nothing but rain at my house, 40 degrees right now, ~6900 ft. Got a butthair of snow yesterday, but gone.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 29, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
Here in SoCal, the combination rain guage / squirrel feeder is showing about an eighth of an inch, so we're getting the hell hammered out of us too.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
Patience. It will come.

T*R edit: Warm is a relative term.
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 29, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
-2 and snowing in that WB lodge pic
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Nov 29, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
HellFireElvira. . . raindrops on the webcam.

POOP.

Hmmmmmmmm. . . there could be a song in there somewhere, though:

Sung to the tune of MY FAVORITE THINGS

Raindrops on webcams
And rivulets running
Wreckin' my snowpack
I'm totally bumming

OK, I'll stop!

:-/

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
Anything may happen. I like it! What a sweet job!

John M

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
About the tahoe guy. Almost always take weather forecasting with a grain of salt. Especially long term prognostication. What I like about the tahoe page is that he explains things in ways that I can understand. I know that he isn't always right, and has even made some big mistakes. So what. He at least gave some explanation for why he was so wrong. And those guys with all the letters after their names have also made lots of mistakes. He is just one of many tools that I use to try to get an understanding for what is going to happen. I also like some of the graphics he posts.

I also look outside. I read a story once about a big storm that hit california a number of years ago. Back in the 50s I think. I can't remember where I found it, probably in our local book sale. Part of it was from the weather forecasters point of view. He told a story about reminding the new forecasters to always go outside before they posted their forecast. This was because they worked in a big building inside with no windows. He said that when he was new he was working nights and he studied all of the info that they had, was about to post that it was going to be a sunny morning, but one of the night cleaners said he had just been outside and it was raining hard. He was that off in his prediction.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
News media weather "forecasters" are rarely professional meteorologists.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 29, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
This was because they worked in a big building inside with no windows. He said that when he was new he was working nights and he studied all of the info that they had, was about to post that it was going to be a sunny morning
Ain't that the truth. Salt Lake City, ca 1968. Late afternoon, summer, about 5:30. TV weatherman forecasting chance of showers.
While it was thunder, lightning and raining leopards and wolves right outside the studio door. I know, I was in a building across the street. A building with windows.

And now we return to our regular programming.
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
while gowing up in Tahoe we use to watch the weather on TV from Bay Area news channels. The most popular weatherman was Pete Giddings. We called him Pete's Kidding!!

He was frequently seen around the casinos wearing full length fur coats. We figured the casinos probably took good care of him to enusre good forecasts to bring the tourist up.
FredC

Boulder climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
That first unit of storm did very little down here in Watsonville. We do know how to do mud down here.

I am thinking to wax my skating skis because I am so ready to go but I don't want to mess up the whole winter by tempting fate.

Maybe I'll wash my car this afternoon.

Fred
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
No need to wash your car.
It's already raining hard and blowing near Castle Rock. Warm though. High freezing levels forecast for the Sierra.
So PLEASE don't tempt the Weather Gods by waxing your skis.

Sandy was an incredibly precise forcast.
Indeed. I was on Long Island as Sandy approached. The forecast for the big hook to the left was on Friday morning. Sandy's eye hit on Monday night within a few dozen miles of the forecast. Tidal surge and wind strength/direction forecasts were also spot on. A surprisingly reliable forecast for such an unusual storm.
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
Big difference between the scientists on the weather channel and some jack ass weather girl.

WTF, over.

I, for one, like a little T&A on the weather report.
John M

climber
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
As long as the T&A isn't writing the script. Or has the brains to go along with the booty.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
Weather girls just report what the big data providers tell us
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 29, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
Weather girls just report what the big data providers tell us

yeah Karl, but it would be nice if they could understand what the data said
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Nov 29, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
Data is easy, its model output thats tricky...heres what they had to choose from 5 days out...the two commonly used models for weather prediction in NA, WRF and GFS sent it out to sea...the Euro model ECMWF nailed it 5 days out.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:04pm PT
Big difference between the scientists on the weather channel and some jack ass weather girl.


Oh? Better ask Hoser. She's a weather girl.

While we're waiting, here's one of those scientists on the Weather Channel:




News media weather "forecasters" are rarely professional meteorologists.


You pretty sure about that Anders? Or maybe its just like one of your opinions about the Gondola.
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
Remember Stromin Norman???? And why he was busted?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
OMG!!! California is going to be hit with a Pineapple Express system!!!!!

That NEVER happens!!!

Global Warmers were right, and the Climate Changers!!!! We are soooo gonna die!!!
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
Aloha gang,
Drinking Pinot here @ lax flight to sfo delayed. Was pretty low clouds when we landed but that could have been the merlot kicking in after 4:53 across the pond.

I only brought shorts, slippers, and aloha shirts so I hope it's sunny and warm in San Fran

Aloha,
Will
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
SLO, Ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
Expert forecaster:

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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:53pm PT
Good chances of a high pressure system in my pants right now.


Aye carumba!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 29, 2012 - 08:54pm PT


Global Warmers were right, and the Climate Changers!!!! We are soooo gonna die!!!


Meanwhile, there's a 100% chance of bullshit over at Bluey's house.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
Lol!

damo62

Social climber
Brisbane
Nov 29, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
"I only brought shorts, slippers, and aloha shirts so I hope it's sunny and warm in San Fran"
LOL-----head straight to the Tonga Room in the Fairmont.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
If you get upset because you put even a shred of faith in any forecast longer than 48 hours that's your own fault. Long range forecasts are a bit of a joke, imho.

BA at TWD is great. People just get pissed when the weather doesn't cooperate and the messenger makes a convenient scapegoat.
He's very open about not being a professional weatherman. His blog was a hobby that's grown due to its popularity. Feel free to watch the Reno TV weather man if you prefer.

It's blowing like an MFer here.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 29, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
jesus bombastic...that's a dumbell low..
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:05am PT
Pouring like crazy in the Central Valley!!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:29am PT
Been rockin' pretty hard since well before midnight in Newcastle.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:38am PT
Dry as a popcorn fart up here!

WTF? O!
MisterE

Social climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:44am PT
http://www.weather.com/news/weather-winter/mount-shasta-snow-extreme-20121129
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:45am PT
Reno

With the potential for localized flooding, starting today, sandbags and sand will be available for the public at three locations: Idlewild Park (located at 1900 Idlewild Drive); First Street at Riverside Drive; and the parking lot of the Governor’s Bowl Park (located at the end of Line Drive which is off of East Fourth Street). The sites and materials will be available between 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m., including Saturday and Sunday. Residents will need to bring a shovel to fill the sandbags. Should the potential for flooding and the need for sandbags increase, additional sandbag sites will be announced.

tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:17am PT
56 mph max gust this morning, third straight day with 50+ winds, with 1.37" of rain in Verdi today. 2.42" storm total so far, and still raining at a good clip.. this storm alone is probably going to be a substantial part of the annual precipitation here.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:53am PT
rainiig here.. I dont need no stinkin weather man..i went outside, felt the cold wetness hitting my blad azz head and said,,,"i predict RAIN"!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
i said that with the explicit purpose of FOOLING the rain gawds.. If I had predicted RAIN it woulda been dry as a p-corn fart. Yu may thank me now..;-)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 30, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
OMG!!! California is going to be hit with a Pineapple Express system!!!!!

That NEVER happens!!!

Global Warmers were right, and the Climate Changers!!!! We are soooo gonna die!!!



rainiig here.. I dont need no stinkin weather man..i went outside, felt the cold wetness hitting my blad azz head and said,,,"i predict RAIN"!


i said that with the explicit purpose of FOOLING the rain gawds..


There is some choice commentary coming out of right field here!

Damn .... The Chief is the weather Guru of Eastsidestan - surely he has some contrarian separate reality he could share with the less enlightened?




Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
100% chance of contrary internet BS ;).

Now, that's a forecast I would bet my life on.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
Credit: kennyt


Woodfords
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
i dont know of a cozier feeling than being in a tent listening to the rain..Its mesmorizing to us kneevaderns...
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
100% chance of contrary internet BS ;).

Now, that's a forecast I would bet my life on.

truly laughing out loud. Bomz.. you da man.

WML.. thanks for the link. Looks like good stuff.

Ron..

i said that with the explicit purpose of FOOLING the rain gawds.. If I had predicted RAIN it woulda been dry as a p-corn fart. Yu may thank me now..;-)

Good come back.. LOL..
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Nov 30, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
Looks like rain here in Vegas, but the forcast says mostly cloudy and 0 percent chance of rain
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
Pissing down hard around Auburn right now.....
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
i dont know of a cozier feeling than being in a tent listening to the rain..Its mesmorizing to us kneevaderns...

I prefer a cabin in the woods with a tin roof. I have had too many tents washed out from under me. Or woken up in too many puddles.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
that works too!^^^^^
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
Nice t*r!

I like this one better though...


bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
Big snowflakes mixing in with heavy rain at lake level.
Good to know it's snowing a bit higher.

Word is that Mt. Rose has had the best skiing this past week or so.

Shasta could get 14-18' (feet!) over the next four days, wow.
socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/11/30/mysterious-atmospheric-river/

NOAA.gov
NOAA.gov
Credit: socialclimber

I'm going to need someone to build me an ark... with a big room for poo...



Charles
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 03:53pm PT
flood alerts have been posted here. ohhhwwww goody..better go sandbag the front doors again..
squishy

Mountain climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 04:42pm PT
I see blue sky in Sacramento, rain stopped about 40 minutes ago...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Nov 30, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
Heavy snow falling here on the east side.....all day!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 30, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
10b4me

Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
Heavy snow falling here on the east side.....all day!

:-)

Next time your ole Uncle Dingus says a big storm is bearing down on Northern California.... make sure and buy the beer in advance

damnit Dingus, you always tell the best stories
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
T*R and Survival. I'll see you and raise.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
SLO, Ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
Raining here. I must have been watching the wrong weather report:

Credit: ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
Rain in the south

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
Cry me a river

John M

climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:11pm PT
Cry me a river.

I got to see him play that live..
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:17pm PT
snowing nicely here in Hilton crk, some good accumulation in town today,saw a buddy who was on the hill said Rogers was thigh deep.... :)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
Well, somebody had to do it.

eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Nov 30, 2012 - 07:47pm PT
It's FINALLY here. . . 45F and POURING RAIN!

Weird.

Warm.

?
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
4.5" of rain so far today here in Wawona
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:21pm PT
Credit: Michelle
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:35pm PT
they are predicting the truckee to flood at Vista and up in Truckee CA-- sun and mon. Snow level sat night going up to 10,000 feet...
MisterE

Social climber
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
Nov 30, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
Nice day in the Gorge clipping bolts, started to sprinkle on the way out
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
Just under 4.5" of rain in Verdi since Wednesday so far.. this is the most I have seen here since I moved to Verdi in 2007 I think.
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 30, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
There's a very interesting story I found from socialclimber's link upthread, about "atmospheric rivers" and the 43 day deluge that flooded N Cal back in 1861. There's evidence this happens about every 200 years:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california

The intense rainstorms sweeping in from the Pacific Ocean began to pound central California on Christmas Eve in 1861 and continued virtually unabated for 43 days. The deluges quickly transformed rivers running down from the Sierra Nevada mountains along the state’s eastern border into raging torrents that swept away entire communities and mining settlements. The rivers and rains poured into the state’s vast Central Valley, turning it into an inland sea 300 miles long and 20 miles wide. Thousands of people died, and one quarter of the state’s estimated 800,000 cattle drowned. Downtown Sacramento was submerged under 10 feet of brown water filled with debris from countless mudslides on the region’s steep slopes. California’s legislature, unable to function, moved to San Francisco until Sacramento dried out—six months later.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
its good to be right http://www.skitheeast.net/posts/id/587489643/mt.-shasta-goes-nuclear your still lucky bastards
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
Good article about the Christmas flood of 1955.
http://www.tahoetopia.com/news/christmas-flood-1955-storm-century

Lets hope the results are not as bad this time.
Things are sounding a bit grim downstream of the Truckee R. in Reno/Sparks.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
I heard they are diverting the truckee towards Mound House , Nevada..I hope Honey Boo Boo has waterproofed his stuffed animals and crack supply....?
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
kunlun_shan, There is a description of the 1861 flood event in "Up and Down California" by William Brewer which is basically a diary of his years on the Whitney survey party from 1861 to 1864, most excellent read. Drop me a PM about skiing, likely heading out tomorrow for high ground.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 30, 2012 - 10:44pm PT
Kirkwood forecast for tonight is snow.....then mixed snow/rain tomorrow through Sunday. Snow level 8000 feet
YUCK
RAIN again starting Tuesday. At 8000 feet.
So much for skiing.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 30, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
Call that a storm?

Meh? I knew everyone was selling it...
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 1, 2012 - 09:32am PT


Story of my life, these days!
Silver

Gym climber
Dec 1, 2012 - 09:45am PT
A gust of wind hit the house night before last that was an easy 80 mph plus I thought it tore the roof off.

Floods are good the best fishing I ever had was after the 97 flood. Created a ton of new habitat and cleaned the river pretty well except for all the products that floated into the river after the wharehouses flooded in sparks.

Anyway we need it and we need it big. Flood away mother nature bring it on.

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:14am PT
Hard to say how bad it will be. Hopefully not to many properties involved. But historically we get floods at least once every decade so most residents here are pretty aware if it is a problem for their home or business.


Where to get sandbags for Reno/Sparks Washoe County NV

http://floodawareness.com/136/where_to_get_sand_bags.html
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:22am PT
shasta news

http://www.examiner.com/article/california-s-mount-shasta-could-set-world-record-with-18-feet-of-snow-4-days
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:27am PT
And that previous world record, according to Weather Underground, was 189 inches. But that took place in a six-day period. Not surprisingly, it happened at Mount Shasta Ski bowl (now Mount Shasta Ski Park) in February 1959, which was the first year that the ski resort opened.

From the newsfeed quoted, above. . .

WELL. . . just to set the record straight. . . The old Mt Shasta Ski Bowl (destroyed by avalanches in the 70s) and today's Mt Shasta Ski Park are two completely different things. . . in two completely different places on the mountain.

That alone, might render the above report a little shaky, not to mention the title of the article being:

record snowball in Mount Shasta

HA!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 11:57am PT
This system has been a lightweight for S Calif, only about a 1/2" storm total here.

It does look like a pineapple express flow is setting up pulling water up from over the SE Asia and off the Tibetan Plateau, then north of Hawaii. that's when it seems to hit us. Maybe we'll get a real storm in a week or so.

If the flow is up from the equator and south of Hawaii, like this system started out, it seems to hit north of Pt. Conception and we don't get much.

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/satellite/ssec/wide-view-us-pacific-asia-sat.html

Here's the best piece I've seen on 1861.

http://www.redlandsfortnightly.org/papers/Taylor06.htm

No comparison at all to this. It destroyed 1/3 of the tax base in the state and drowned 1/4 of the cattle.

The flood ended the California cattle ranch industry and destroyed the ranchero social order.

For a week the tides at the Golden Gate did not flood, rather there was continuous and forceful ebb of brown fresh water 18-20 feet deep pouring out above the salt water. A sea captain reported that his heavily laden ship foundered in the Gulf of the Farallons off of San Francisco, due to the layer of fresh water. Fresh-water fish were caught in San Francisco Bay for several months after the peaks of the flood. These events have not happened since. (Ellis 1936)
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
bigs storms usually do mean great fishing in the bay. It's kind of like flushing the toilet. Out with the old and in with the new
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Call that a storm?

Bluey.....nah....not the BIGGEST storm I've ever seen up here on Castle Rock Ridge. There was that one in......
but I digress
6" rain since Thursday. And still raining. 1" overnight and it didn't feel like it was raining at all by comparison to Thurs night.

c'mon up to Castle Rock for some slick rock bouldering.....bring your Wellies! your snorkel too and we'll do the falls routes.

For a week the tides at the Golden Gate did not flood, rather there was continuous and forceful ebb of brown fresh water 18-20 feet deep pouring out above the salt water
And now we have a dozen or so big dams on the Sacramento/San Joaquin so that's not likely to happen again.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
In terms of the ability of dams to do much flood control in a storm series like those big historical ones, don't get your hopes up. Dams do a pretty good job on the normal and usual storms, as there is only so much water management they can accomplish. Once it gets a little unusual, like in 1998 when dam flood control was basically overwhelmed, dams pretty mcuh stop working, because when the reservoir is full, its like the dam isn't even there. Water in always has to equal water out, so those historical flood conditions might not be as unexpected as you are assuming.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
The devastation caused by gold miners may have had something to do with the impacts of the flood of 1861. They created a huge amount of deforestation, especially in the foothills.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:55pm PT
so those historical flood conditions might not be as unexpected as you are assuming.
Yes, I was thinking about the possible massive overtopping. Less likely because with a forecast, extra water can be released from the reservoirs in advance. But still possible.

And then there are the unusual, but certainly possible again, conditions that created the Yosemite Valley flood of 1997.

MH.....yup.....also the upturning of the stream beds bringing rock to the top and placer mining washing the topsoil away.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


"great flood o 97'"


My plow unit,,Carson yard 1/1/97 water had already receded from the ealry am crest by two or more feet.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
Hydraulic mining was a minor contributing factor in the 1861 flood. Mostly in the debris that it liberated down stream that tore up log dams and retaining basins.

The Sacramento, and San Joaqin valleys were lakes for almost a month and Orange County was an inland sea for three weeks. Flow of the Santa Ana river at the narrows was an estimated 320,000 CFS To give that some perspective the average flow of the Missippi is 450,000 CFS.

Even the Mojave river was 20' above flood stage and most of the desert lake beds filled.

I doubt the flood cotrol system could handle it at either end of the state.

For example even if Prado Dam did hold in a repeat of 1861 there would be a deep lake streching from Pomona to Redlands and from the San Gabriels to Corona that would take months to drain without wiping out Anaheim and the coastal cities.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
RDA -- Ophir creek dam, us395 1-2-97
RDA -- Ophir creek dam, us395 1-2-97
Credit: Ron Anderson


a RARE pic of,,,,"Ophir creek DAM".... Flood of 97- washoe valley, old us 395. Neeldess to say,, ol 395 was CLOSED lol!

About a million yards of granite and dg flowed down the highway to bowers mansion from the top of the hill at ophir creek crossing. You didnt do stuff like this every day...Used a few thousand yards in building the dam you see to re-contain ophir creek..
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
hey there say, TGT...

as to this qoute of yours:

Hydraulic mining was a minor contributing factor in the 1861 flood. Mostly in the debris that it liberated down stream that tore up log dams and retaining basins.

The Sacramento, and San Joaqin valleys were lakes for almost a month and Orange County was an inland sea for three weeks. Flow of the Santa Ana river at the narrows was an estimated 320,000 CFS To give that some perspective the average flow of the Missippi is 450,000 CFS.

Even the Mojave river was 20' above flood stage and most of the desert lake beds filled

WOW--the things that they did NOT teach us in our calif history...
wish they had...
thanks for sharing... i never knew of this...



also, say, ron:
neat pics of the past flooding, etc...
thanks for sharing...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
hey there say, all you calif folks near this area:

brentwood, etc..


i got a friend there and she's said that she often wonders what wuold
happened, and/or, what it would take to make those levee's overflow...

she's fairly certain it just might flood her home, if they did...

they've had up to two inches around there home, from hard rains...
(not sure if she ment now, from the storm, or from a past one--put it IS raining-wet there, now) ...

thanks for any shares or thoughts or knowledge on this...
:)


edit:

say, i think, though i did not read the article, but:
it LOOKS like there is another storm system ALREADY coming
in, next, really soon?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
Neebs, advise her to seek HIGH ground the second she even THINKS its getting close. And PRE pack some important papers and belongings.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:32pm PT
Discovery Bay, right next to Brentwood and many central Delta areas are protected by one measly levee with some Delta properties actually lying under high tide line. That area is a massive disaster waiting to happen.

Probably not this time, but a similar series of storms on top of a huge snowpack might do it.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
uhm… maybe its just me or something…


BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BIG STORM IN CALIFORNIA!!!



Ok, there have been storms… but given that these 3 "big" storms look nothing larger than I've ever seen before in my life. I am inclined to believe that this one is of no more significants than any other "fall weather"…. rainy, cloudy, foggy (in my area), cold….. Overall, the 3-pack of clouds has nothing in them.

I can change my mind when I see more under water than not under water



To be honest there seems to be nothing out of the ordinary with this weather….But I guess with Sandy hitting the east the west wants to get back some of that tragedy attention, I guess.

But then again…. people almost never do that… do they?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
It looks like by Monday we'll have had maybe 7" for this storm system just west of Yosemite.

It wasn't very dramatic though. Santa Cruz mountains were way more interesting.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 07:44pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


US 395 S goes right through the lake....
US 395 S goes right through the lake....
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson


flood of 97 pics from garderville to carson..
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
Hundreds of homes in Weston Ranch, Just south of Stockton were built on a flood plane. Crappy homes that sold for over 5k and now worth about 2K. Just stupid they ever built there except for the developers.
John M

climber
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
Why does big automatically get misconstrued as biggest?

Are you all retarded?

I was sort of wondering the same thing, though I was thinking in terms of being misconstrued as catastrophic. I understood that you were just stoked for the potential of some serious snow. If it had snowed down just a little bit lower it would have been fantastic.

In their defense, there were a number of news reports that focused on how potentially enormous it could have been.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
thats what SHE said...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2012 - 08:11pm PT
I had a fairly benign purpose in mind for opening the thread... a big storm was in fact bearing down on California and a lot and I mean a lot of jaded assed climbers think they can go sashaying out in that sh#t lah dee dah. Some of you can. Most of us can't. It was a friendly warning from a weather aficionado... this one was going to hit. And it did.

You're welcome.

Now you can back to telling stories about how you been beat up by uglier women than me. I hope you have, too. Bad.

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:15pm PT
dammm smokin sum gursh tonight eerrr whut?
John M

climber
Dec 1, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
Well sh#t.. I knew it was benign. Didn't' think about climbers going out in it.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 1, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
I had the flu this week, that sh#t is viral!

Five bucks says Dingus will post a TR about the flu!

Ten bucks that it will be brilliant!
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Dec 1, 2012 - 10:18pm PT
Partied at the Fed for the past two days now screaming down the runway of SFO rain flying by....oops I'm not supposed to be online. OMG the government told me knott to due this.


Will be warm and in the blue pacific by morning. Course if we crash.....will stil be in he pacific!

Kick that flus ass DMT!

Aloha,

WS

As we rise up and it's pouring fairly well, I'll lose my connection around 8k Have a great weekend! Get outdoors

Edit: over oh ah who now, we got steady rain for over 321 mlles out of SFO. Then we broke free but still danced all the way to the Islands.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:58am PT
http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/the-big-one

The winds will really start to crank tonight as storm #3 approaches with gusts as high as hurricane force at 75mph in the valleys and up to category 4 hurricane strength at 150 mph over the ridges. The the heavy precip begins to push in during the early morning hours and the snow levels shoot up to 9000+ ft. This should only last several hours before colder air works in as the cold front approaches. Sunday morning the snow levels should drop back down to 8000 ft. and then 7000 by midday and lake level by evening.

The forecast models are in good agreement that 2-3 inches of liquid will fall over the basin and 3-4 inches West of the lake along the crest. Above 9000 ft. we could see 2-3 feet with 3-4 along the crest. Below that the forecast gets tricky as it depends on how fast the cold air works in. I think we could see accumulating snow all the way to lake level by Sunday evening if enough precip is still around. Between 7000-9000 ft. 1-3 feet are possible and several inches below that
.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 10:42am PT
currently pouring on the East tahoe side. Crags 100% humidity are being "experienced"..
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Dec 2, 2012 - 11:43am PT
thank god the snow levels are high. if all this had been snow we would be fuked.
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
Check out this radar return.

photo not found
Missing photo ID#276538

That squall line looks pretty intense
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
Mt Shasta Ski Park's webcam. . . from. . . right now!

photo not found
Missing photo ID#276539
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Ekat...that's some dirty looking snow...RJ
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
Ekat...that's some dirty looking snow...RJ

Damn dude.. don't make me laugh so hard. hahaha..


Hey Ekat.. you said they moved the ski area to a different area of the mountain. Did they move it lower?
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
After a long night and morning of total wind lashing torrential downpour,it just turned to snow here at 7,100ft at Donner Summit!! Sticking, coming down hard...Really hoping we can get a foot or two to stick on our rain sogged base today...Wonder whats happening near the river in Truckee?

Peter
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
massive adjustment to yer waxs is called for!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
it will just be another dry ass windstorm..;-)

Good call.

Edit;
The Ski Park doesn't even do AC.

Nothing steep enough?
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Hey Ekat.. you said they moved the ski area to a different area of the mountain. Did they move it lower?

Lower and around the mountain. . . instead of driving on the Everitt Memorial Highway (from the town of Mt. Shasta) you drive around the mountain on Highway 89 toward McCloud and head up to private land, at the intersection at Snowman's Hill.

The elevation of the top chair is less than 7,000 feet.

WAY different conditions!

The Ski Park doesn't even do AC.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
Skiing on 30 year old yellow klister yesterday...Pulled it out of the fridge next to the EPO stash...Now i have a collage of pine needles stuck to my bases....Snow-rain here at 7600 feet...
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:43pm PT

Ekat...that's some dirty looking snow...RJ

WORD, JWerd!

At least it's snowing at BigMtn.

photo not found
Missing photo ID#276541
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
7000 feet. Gack.. thats Sierra Cement territory.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
Skiing on 30 year old yellow klister yesterday...

I have one pair of skis waxed for ultra wet conditions. . . they've been waxed this way since my time at TheRack.

Rex OU klister. . . petrified on there. . . every once in a while I freeze them and add some hard wax over the top. . . they ALWAYS work!
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:48pm PT

7000 feet. Gack.. thats Sierra Cement territory.

Well. . . Cascade Concrete, at least!

:-)
John M

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
It Swedish and means glue. Or cement.
:-)

well, if you don't use it, the snow will definitely be glued to the bottom of your skis. :-)
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
You know what it means, dontcha?

yeah. . . sure do. . . LOVE the stuff. . . it always works! You just have to know how to apply it!

:-)

eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
Nothing steep enough?

That, coupled with the place being way down in the trees.

It's a REALLY fun place to ski, though.

Tiny!

You could lose it at Chair One on Mammoth! But. . . day in and day out, top to bottom black diamonds - ALONE!

I skied the place out in less than 2 hours my first time there. . . that's kinda why I opted to stay in Montana this winter. . . it's time to ski Fernie and Big. . . kinda need to get the ole heartrate up!

:-)

this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
Ekat Big Mtn is outta whitefish right? Went there a few years ago and really liked the area.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Klister? I just met her...
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
Cool RottingJohnny! Yellow klister is gross, but sometimes good skiing...If it keeps dumping, and puts enough on the ground to soak up the deep puddles, I will go out and train, ie. break trail, then do a bunch of laps in my Salomon 88's. Will you be at the Tannebaum race on the 16th? Maybe see you there!

Peter
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:06pm PT

Ekat Big Mtn is outta whitefish right? Went there a few years ago and really liked the area.

Yeah. . . BITCHEN ski area. . . and ya gotta love lawless Montana. . . you can ski really fast without anybody gettin' pissy with you. Hell, on Mammoth, if you skied even as fast as BigMtn's Patrolmen, you'd end up in Bridgeport. (county jail).

I will say, I'm skeezin in a helmet, now, because of it!

:-)
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
Yeah, liked the area, the people, the food, and the snow. Want to go back and check out Glacier NP in the summertime.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:14pm PT
Maysho...I may show for the Tannebaum...Get it..May show..? I don't get to play as much anymore but the fire in the belly still smolders...Racing is more fun when you can go fast and less painful too...The yellow Klister worked pretty damn well...RJ
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
Ekat...Where the heck are you...? Montana or Shasta..? If you are in Montana that would mean a suckafish is near whitefish...I ski slow and still ended up in Bridgeport , the inner bred capital of the eastside...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
shes up where da sheeps run scared...;-)
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
great day for a big wall,
if your name f*#king name is
sir reagan.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
Wow, perhaps a perfect ending?

GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...TRUCKEE...
INCLINE VILLAGE
900 AM PST SUN DEC 2 2012

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM PST THIS AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND GUSTY WINDS...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM
PST THIS AFTERNOON.

* TIMING: A COLD FRONT WILL DROP SNOW LEVELS BELOW 7000 FEET THIS
MORNING WITH PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW INTO THE AFTERNOON.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS: 10 TO 16 INCHES ABOVE 7000 FEET WITH 4 TO 8
INCHES AT LAKE LEVEL. ABOVE 8000 FEET...2 FEET OR MORE OF SNOW
IS EXPECTED.

* SNOW LEVELS: NEAR 8000 FEET THIS MORNING...FALLING BELOW 7000
FEET BY NOON. SNOW LEVEL WILL REACH LAKE LEVEL BY MID-AFTERNOON.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
Suckafish near Whitefish. . . FOR SURE!

I have a housesitter/caretaker at my place in Shasta. . . I just HAD to ski at home this winter. . . I really missed this place!

Dig this, JWerd, our NordicCenter allows DOGS. . . 2/3 of what they groom (ginzu) is open for doggies. . . it's RAD! Not that I have a doggie anymore, but it's still a rad trail system. . . and Skadi and I were usually the only ones there, anyway!

:-)

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
I just threw away a sh!tpile of old klister. I'm soo done with that sh!t.
There's better things to do on klister days. I'll let ya know when I find one.

The one gud thing about klister?
It fools you into thinking you don't have a 'late' kick.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
I prefer a waxless pattern over klister. I've got a tube. It has exactly one sessions worth of glue missing and that's it.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
Like I said. . . you just have to know how to apply the stuff. . . too many people use WAY TOO MUCH OF IT. . . it should be so thin, it's almost invisible!

It should never squirt out and over your sidewalls. . . NEVER!

But. . . I will admit. . . skeezin on Mt Shasta for years and years gave me plenty of time to get really good at using klisters. . . dood. . . the snow falls RED KLISTER down there!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
It should never squirt out and over your sidewalls. . . NEVER!

UFF DA - LOL!
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Crazy ass wind and rain last night and early this morning... Our power came back on a hour ago and the sun is out...yippy!!!

Going hiking to check out water levels in the upper section of Bidwell park...Chico.


Speaking of Parks...another Park, 5 hours away.
Credit: nita
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
just started snowing on the north shore @ 6200
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
nuttin but rain at 5000 the "mound".
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Dec 2, 2012 - 01:49pm PT
The sun just came out and the power just went out....
10b4me

Boulder climber
u.s. 395
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
looks like the next few days will be dry
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:93529.1.99999
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:14pm PT
gud,, about 1 more inch and the shop will flood again...It appears the county work wasnt sufficient...
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#276557

When NOT getting hosed really is getting hosed!

:-(
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:23pm PT
eKat, feeling yer pain. But it is a First World Problems pain. ;-)
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Good day to swim up Royal Arches. Snorkel required.
Credit: HighTraverse

4" rain on Castle Rock ridge last night. Winds gusting (probably) over 60. Calm now but still rainin' like a cow pi**in' on a flat rock.

For a good description of the floods of 1861-62 see Book III, Chapter I of "Up and Down California" by William F. Brewer (University of California Press). This is an excellent book about California, Dec 1860 - Dec 1864
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
Scientific American article will be published in print in Jan issue. They've posted it on the web due to the current heavy California rains. Worth reading.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Dec 2, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
Thanks HT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
Oh, and Lolli, you're surprised that we call it klister?
What did you think we called it, ost?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:53pm PT
All snow and 35F here now.....too bad most of the storm is played out....
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 2, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
I'm stoked for the Sierra.

Please schralp the gnar for me this week.

khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Dec 2, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
Two inches since this morning and still raining heavily. I'm surprised we still have power.

The dam (aka pond) was over-run about an hour ago, so now the lower pasture is a river. Probably we will have no dam left by tonight.



But ya know... after two years in Joshua Tree I don't mind a bit.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Dec 2, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
Looks like the snow levels dropped a bit which allowed Reno/Sparks to dodge the flood bullet barely.

Very cool.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 2, 2012 - 06:13pm PT
sun here, Iron butte would be NICE tomorrow...from 1100 am on!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 2, 2012 - 06:13pm PT
Looks like the snow levels dropped a bit which allowed Reno/Sparks to dodge the flood bullet barely.

Very cool.

Yeah, good stuff. I'm glad I live up the hill from the Truckee River though. It would take Noah type conditions for us to get flooded ;). My wife and I just took a walk down by the river, and it was swollen and bringing all kinds of debris with it.

I used to live by the levees in Sacramento. That could be a nightmare in rainy season, waiting for alarms and news of a sudden break, all the while seeing the water lap up to the bottom of the Tower Bridge. Yikes!

We lived on the West Sacramento side, the poor side, and urban legend was those a-holes in Sacramento would blow the levee on our side if it came down to it! Hahaha.... I'm not even sure that would save their hide, but it seemed plausible in that paranoid mindset.
tallguy

Trad climber
eastside
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
Final storm tally in Verdi: 7.62" rain, 58 mph max wind gust. Truckee is up with trees floating down the river, but not too bad really.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Dec 2, 2012 - 07:23pm PT
Clearing on Carson Peak a bit ago....

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Missing photo ID#276586
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Dec 3, 2012 - 12:25am PT
Nice pfoto Cragman. RE: the topic - Saw on the Yosemite webcams that the Merced had risen quite a bit this afternoon, and Yosemite falls was about Spring runoff volume. Would be a good time to break out the spinning rod.
WBraun

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 12:27am PT
But these pussy California rivers

Yep

When I was in Borneo the fuking river rose 10 feet over night in one little storm during the night.

Me and Hoover where on top of one of the towers in a dome tent and it rained so hard it pushed the tent poles straight down on top of us.

I love the jungle where its moist, warm, sh!t crawls everywhere, you sink in mud and bugs attack incessantly.

Jungle is very nice not like stupid Americans who make stupid sterile shopping malls ......
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:49am PT
hey there, say, t*r, wow, thanks for the share,

:)
MisterE

Social climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:54am PT
Werner according to my calculations, you just used up your life-time limit on the word "stupid".

Please find an appropriate substitute for the remainder of your existence.

A thesaurus is really nice for these redundancy limits.

:)

Upon further review, you share this honor with Locker, who creatively chose "sutpid" as his alternative use.
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:09am PT
^LOL
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:45am PT
I was in a big sterile American shopping mall today, one of those lifestyles of the rich and famous malls. They realized I was an imposter (ran a credit check on me) and escorted me OUT.

Not till I saw the new James Bond film though. 50-year franchise, and the first Bond movie I ever saw on the big screen. I liked the movie and flu recovery (real influenza, no joke, lost 10-15 lbs in 3 days!) is complete.

DMT


Speaking of scary waters and movies, you should check out The Life of Pi. Very cool ocean cinematography, unsterile India, and big feelings we American dudes have to pretend we can't feel.

Too bad about the flu, man. But, you know, with the lbs gone you can crank harder now ;).

I get the flu shot every season now, but some people think it's witch craft or something. And if it is, bravo, ladies.
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:17am PT
WHOA, t*r. . . rad. . . TFPU. . . now take some pix of your new house DURING THE DAY and post 'em up!

:-)
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:24am PT
that was a really disappointing book, imho.
it was a struggle for me to finish.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:10am PT
looks like your big storm is done. how'd the mountains fare out of it?
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:45am PT
Yeah. . . here's that 200+ inch storm that fell on Mt Shasta!

:-)

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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:03pm PT
Ive had Life of Pi sitting on my nightstand for a long time, Burl gave it to me. Haven't cracked it. Worthy read?

I'm told it's excellent. I don't know. I don't like to spoil my movie viewing experience by reading the book ;).
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 3, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
The movie was better than I expected but I've heard the book is excellent.
For those of us with ADD the movie will have to do. But the Meerkats were
a bit much.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
If i do get my flu shot, that's what makes me fat, right?

lol
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
We got 9 inches or rain here in Wawona and 10.5 inches at the south gate in 5 days. If that had been snow at badger it would have been epic. High snow lines and just enough time between to empty the streams and it did no damage.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 3, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
Haven't seen the movie, but Life of Pi was a most excellent book.
John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 03:07pm PT

...SELECTED STORM TOTAL RAINFALL IN INCHES FROM 400 PM PST TUE NOV
27 THROUGH 600 AM PST MON DEC 03...

...CALIFORNIA...
BRANDY CREEK (SHASTA) 23.48
STERLING CITY (FEATHER) 21.24
SIMS 17.90
PETROLIA 7.4 SE 17.50
NORTH COAST CAMP SIX 16.64
BRIDGEVILLE 5.2 ENE 15.72
OAK MOUNTAIN 15.16
MIRANDA 4.1 SW 14.98
CAZADERO 6.9 WNW 14.45
KINGVALE 1.3 WSW 14.37
LOS GATOS 6.1 S 13.89
BLUE CANYON 13.41
REDWAY 1.8 WSW 13.39
BRANDY CRK 12.60
SECRET TOWN 12.55
BEALE AFB/MARYSVILLE 9.55
SAN FRANCISCO INTL AIRPORT 4.09

If that 23 inches of rain had fallen as snow..
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
8 1/2" total for storm.
Near Castle Rock
eKat

Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Dec 3, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
BRANDY CREEK (SHASTA) 23.48

That's Shasta County. . . way down the5 near Redding. . . it has nothing to do with Mt. Shasta.

John M

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 05:26pm PT
I understand that Ekat. All I meant was that the moisture was in that storm and if just a few small things would have been different, such as snow level, then we could have had more epic conditions.

Plus the storm spread itself out just enough to keep many streams and rivers from flooding.

Some people were saying that this really wasn't that big of a storm. I was refuting that. 23 inches is a whole lot of moisture. So was the 9 inches we got here in Wawona.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 3, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
Sucka fish creek got 6 inches....RJ
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
The same storm piled up a bunch of snow in Idaho's Mountains.

Some of it avalanched on Sun Valley's ski mountain, but since it happened at night, no deaths or injuries.

Buried Seattle Ridge chairlift on Monday morning.
Buried Seattle Ridge chairlift on Monday morning.
Credit: Fritz
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Avalanche-at-Sun-Valleys-Bald-Mountain-181917921.html?fb_action_ids=3959837565494&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%223959837565494%22%3A252776234851774%7D&action_type_map=%7B%223959837565494%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]

SUN VALLEY -- The Sun Valley Ski Patrol reported an avalanche Monday morning.

Jack Sibbach, Marketing and Public Relations Director for the Sun Valley Company, said, "This was a big one."

Sibbach said the avalanche occurred on Lookout Bowl and slid down the length of the mountain. The Ski Patrol noticed the slide and reported it Monday morning. There is no way of knowing exactly when the avalanche occurred, according to Sibbach.

Sibbach said a pile of snow from the avalanche had gathered at the base of the Seattle Ridge lift. There was no damage to the lift.

Lookout Bowl was not open at the time of the avalanche and is currently still closed.

No one was injured in the naturally occurring slide.

Sibbach said the resort has received 35 inches of new snow since Friday. Winds were high and visibility was low on Sunday. In fact, the resort had to close a few lifts Sunday because of high winds.

Tuesday update:


The Sawtooth National Forest Avalanche Center is reporting considerable avalanche danger in the Sawtooths, along with the North, Central, and South Wood River Valley.

Scott Savage with the avalanche center says two factors are contributing to the avalanche danger.
The first factor, or primary avalanche concern, is a layer of wind affected snow called a "slab" that built up during last weekend's storm.

The second factor, or secondary avalanche concern, is made of two weakened layers in the snowpack buried deep beneath much of the snow in higher elevations.

Anyone going into these mountain areas is cautioned to read the avalanche center's full report, and stay below higher elevations with open, exposed slopes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 4, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
getting sprinkles on and off here on the mound 5000'..
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