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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 18, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
calling micronut.

What I mean by them taking 10 minutes is they've got the process down as well as the technology. After you are all numbed up it's a matter of drilling to the root, either removing it or cleaning out the canal, irrigating it, adding an antiseptic which is left for a week and then putting in a temp filling. I'll go back in a week when they will open it up again, irrigate it one more time and then insert the final piece and then seal it up. I'm left with a temp filling so I still have the process of getting the crown.

This is how endodontists roll these days. My first dentist told me as much.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 18, 2016 - 03:37pm PT
well for what it's worth it is tooth #20 which is a single canal. i'm sure some further back take a bit longer.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 18, 2016 - 04:27pm PT
maybe the Dentists I've been using took their time

Locker, it was a big mistake to pay by the hour, trust me.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Mar 18, 2016 - 04:38pm PT
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Nature, ...Have you thought of taking a dental vacation ?...If so, Talk/email Delhi dog, i'm pretty sure he goes on vacation to Thailand for his dental needs..or is it home in India?..I can't remember, but he can direct you.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 18, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
nita - i'm considering that. I'm wondering if i can spend some extra time while on my Papua New Guinea trip mid-summer.

At the same time considering some of the work and the fact I'm starting up a business it's tough to think about taking any time off. But I'd save a ton. Mexico was another option a friend clued me in to.

In fact you may recall on my India Trip I went to southern India because of the dental tourism. The dentist yesterday had mixed feelings on the work but mostly good. I should have done crown instead of in-lays but that was mostly my decision. Not sure I had the time for all the crowns, etc.
Karen

Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~ God's country!!!!
Mar 18, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
Have a question how much should a crown be for a back molar. I was quoted 1,000 dollars, that just seems extremely expensive and I cannot afford it. The problem is however, the dentist showed me all the tiny cracks in that tooth and he said it is only a matter of time before a chuck breaks off and then I'll need a root canal and the damn crown !!! I don't have insurance and have been in a panic since the dentist gave me this news.
Recently, Due to not having insurance and couldn't afford a root canal and crown had a molar removed, fortunately you can't see it when I smile.
Appreciate your advice for my question.
John M

climber
Mar 18, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
a thousand dollars is the going rate. I paid 900 a couple of years ago. The last tooth that needed a crown I had it pulled. 250 bucks easy peasy.


Of course real men would pull it themselves. Hahaha.. Cue Werner.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 18, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
Not a dentist (clearly), but crowns usually cost me 1500 WITH insurance. I did let one tooth go once (no insurance). It then got infected. Agonizing pain. I got to pay for a root canal and a crown then. Cha ching.

Good luck and I hope you find relief. Teefers are expensive to care for. Better than no teefers though.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 18, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
If you can afford it over time check out care credit. That was one option. I don't think $1000 for a crown is excessive (micronut, calling micronut ;) as mine was $1400 but then this is the peoples republic of boulder.

I'm thinking Bali for the work. It's probably where I'm flying in to before PNG. just a longer trip and it'll pay for my original trip. reviews are good so far.

Cue Werner.

And BURT BRONSON
Karen

Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~ God's country!!!!
Mar 18, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
I have been told by many to go to Mexico to have dental work done. What do you think about that option?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Apr 27, 2016 - 10:24am PT
Hey Micro,

So it looks like (feels like) I have four teeth that are growing increasingly super sensitive (painful) to hot and cold and pressure. They are 21, 28, 18, 31 on your standard dental chart...


Recent exam confirms (1) all four in the past were composite filled at their outside bases because of caries (?) or receding gums (?); (2) all roots look healthy under x-ray - so I'm told.

So I guess I'm just left wondering: (a) I'm 56, is this something an older person just has to get used to with his original teeth and it is a normal development with aging? (b) The teeth "look" fine but if I spent the money and had these implants installed would I get that super strong tooth feeling again? (c) This super sensitivity to pressure, hot and cold has increasingly advanced in the last six months, esp. Any chance it might just go away or is it here to stay till end-of-life? I switched toothpaste to the sensodyne types which may have helped, not totally sure though.

Your input most welcome! Thank you.

PS

If x-rays show healthy roots why the pain clamping down on a pencil, for eg, particularly for 28 and 21?
Karen

Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~
Apr 27, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
High F. Have you tried the toothpaste called sensodyne? I had really sensitive teeth and this cured it.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2016 - 02:35pm PT
High Fructose,

I don't have much time right now to answer your question....let me get back to you asap.

but for now I have some thoughts, don't do anything rash like have the teeth taken out or something like that until I can respond.

1. No, you don't have to "just live with it."

2. My guess is that something like wearing a hard night splint for a while might calm down the muscles of mastication and take some of the load off the teeth, which is probably a big factor unless you have a large amount of exposed root surface.

Give me a couple hours and I'll respond in full detail.

Until then, the fact that your screen name is "High Fructose Corn Syrup" could have something to do with it. The irony is not lost on me.


Scott
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Apr 27, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
thanks, micro.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jul 28, 2016 - 12:30pm PT
Oh boy...this thread helped me a lot about a year ago to get through my first root canal.
It went quite well.
Now, my second. Not so well.
This is a lower molar, next to the last 30? 31? Not sure.
I had "not too bad" discomfort that was managed by Ibu (just one OTC) tablet. It went on for two + weeks so I knew it was time.
Back to the endo who did the first one. He does the numbing, a lot, it was not bad but then starts the drilling and says "oh it's a 'hot tooth' and says I may need more numbing". Yup, I replied and the next numbing was not exactly pleasant as I think he had to go down through the pulp. He said it was bleeding and that it was a "ten out of ten tooth" didn't know how I had endured it especially since I had 3 long airplane flights since I had first had symptoms etc etc. Of course I'm starting to freak out thinking should I just have had it pulled. I kept asking him, after I could talk, does he feel confident it's saved. He said yes.

Ok, procedure done, I'm numb and feeling no pain except stiff jaw. Quick run for groceries before I expected post procedure "discomfort". They gave me an Ibu/Tylenol combo which I avoided until I knew what it was going to be like. Well, it's like VERY painful the night of, and today (day after) ... Much more than it ever did before Tx and much more than the first one (which was an upper and evidently not as "hot". I was also given antibiotics to take if swelling occurs.

How many days should I expect this before I call him back? I don't want to be a wuss but this is so different than the first one. There is no indication of swelling so I don't think I need to start the antibiotics but I sure didn't expect more pain during recovery than I did before Tx.

Whine whine poor me. I'm supposed to be out in the middle of the ocean and they're all waiting for me.

Susan
John M

climber
Jul 28, 2016 - 12:57pm PT
Hi Susan, I have no idea if this applies to your case, but I have heard about it from other people and other situations. I broke my nose playing rugby. It was a bad break. I had it surgically repaired. They gave me pain meds and told me to take them on time. Since it didn't really hurt when I broke it and I don't like taking pain meds, I waited until the pain started. The hydrocodone and ibuprofen that they gave me did not work. It was after hours and the doc sent me to the emergency room for a shot of demerol. After that the hydrocodone and ibuprofen worked fine. Doc said something like pain is cumulative. Some weaker pain meds can keep it down if it hasn't advanced too far, but once it goes past a certain threshold then a stronger pain med is needed to knock it back down.

Just some information. Hopefully micronut will chime in, but if he doesn't, I wouldn't hesitate to call the dentist. The nurse will know what to do or can ask the dentist.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Jul 28, 2016 - 01:03pm PT
Susan, not a dentist, but it should hurt less every day and most teeth quit hurting in 3 or 4 days. I got a root canal on a lower molar long ago and it never did quit hurting and had to be pulled. So if it still hurts like hell after 4 or 5 days go back in. But it never hurts to call first to get their opinion, they are the experts.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jul 28, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
they are the experts

Some of them are. Probably 50/50 around here..... And for the love of G_d if you find a good dentist/endodontist don't lose them!

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 26, 2016 - 08:36pm PT
Checking in for the dental support group meeting.

Recovering on day two from #18 being extracted. It didn't want to go, but the periodontist was victorious. I flipped off the tooth parts as I left.

I am THRILLED! That mofo tooth has been jacking with me for years - and that was even after a root canal/crown. So I sit here drooling a bit with a mouth full of stitches dreaming of corn chips and peanuts. Happily margaritas don't have sharp edges. It's all good. Happy to have the resources needed for the upcoming implant (post healing from extraction and bone graft).

Corn chips. Mmmmm.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 26, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
Plus the ice in the margarita is anti inflammatory. It's really medicinal at this point.
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