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dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Original Post - May 25, 2006 - 11:03pm PT
NO, it is assuredly not true, and you have got yourself in some hot water now.

Deleting will not help you.

Come tomorrow I will be contacting the appropriate authorities in my state and the state where ST resides, and see what can be done about you.

I have written several ST admins, asking for their help in dealing with you.

This is BULLSH#T, and you will face some consequences.

What you deleted is copied to the admins, and to my PC.

It will be sent to whomever needs to see it.

Some things are beyond the pale, and this is one of them.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:11pm PT
Jerry! Jerry!! Jerry!!!



EDITED:

you be the judge...

Slanderous? Or a compliment???

"Go blow yourself. It's what you're good at."...
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2006 - 11:17pm PT
It's not a joke locker.

Richard has also done his share.

I've had enough.

Lies are lies, they will be dealt with.

Richard, I suggest you take you comments about me off your blog before I can copy them.

This is not a joke.

My patience in this matter is at an end.

I meet people all the time in climbing who know me but I don't know them.

IF ONE of them ever does anything to cause me any harm whatsoever based on these lies, there will be legal hell to pay, particularly for the lie spreaders, and I promise you that.



Loom

climber
167 stinking feet above sea level : (
May 25, 2006 - 11:18pm PT
great title



(edit)doom will now suffer the consequences for its actions
andanother

climber
May 25, 2006 - 11:21pm PT
No, this is not a joke. This is delusional paranoia at it's finest.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:21pm PT
Dirt, yes mine is a joke of sorts...but it is also pointing out that "It takes two" etc...

dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2006 - 11:25pm PT
NO locker, it does not take two to make unfounded, false accusations and repeat them over and over.

And if you think this is paranoia, here is what the jerk posted:

*

Woman, dirtineye is a stalking loser on this site.
May 25, 2006, 07:33pm PST

Topic Author:
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
From: Cali
Don't take offense to his comments, "most" know what he is about. Feel free to post your comments here. If he tries to "mess with you" we will defend you.

Re: Woman, dirtineye is a stalking loser on this site.
May 25, 2006, 07:34pm PST
Author:
dirtineye

Trad climber
From: the south
OK pal, that's it.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:28pm PT
hell Man I have been accused of much worse on Todds site and even here if memory serves me right... I get attacked big time and just deal with it and go with the flow...it's the fuking internet... this ain't the "real world"!!!... Is your impecable reputation at stake here Curt? Will it change how others see you? Have you not brought it on yourself by some of your actions and choices? I am not saying you have or have not. I am just asking you to look more inward than outward... Sometimes truths are to be found...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:32pm PT
Personally, I think I prefer:

Apocalypse will face the music...now.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2006 - 11:33pm PT
Locker, you are as full of shyte as they come.

NO, I did not bring it on myself.

And your insipid insinuations wil lcurry no favor.

YOu may fight you battles as you choose, I wil lfight mine my way, thank you very much.

This crap has been going on for two years, started By Richard, parroteed by him, and taken up by a few miscreants, because I pissed him off WHILE I WAS DEFENDING A GIRL against his attacks.

It will now end, by legal means if possible.

Enough is enough.
andanother

climber
May 25, 2006 - 11:38pm PT
dirtineye,
I don't get it. It just says something about being a stalker.
Am I missing something here?

Did you mean to post something else?

What did he really write?
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
May 25, 2006 - 11:40pm PT
For what it's worth....I have been waivering on leaving this site since the beginning of March.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 25, 2006 - 11:41pm PT
Happie: please do not leave. I love your photos and your posts.

You have done so much to help me. You are one of the nicest people I have ever met in climbing. If you leave, many people lose.



I want to climb with you when I come up to Gunks in June.



~ Richard

http://www.drkodos.blogspot.com

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:43pm PT
As I understand the law, you can only recover damages for libel if the allegations are unfounded.
So as long as nobody comes forward saying they are true, then you just might have a case.

Only time will tell...

Edit: I just started laughing out loud when I thought of what kind of damages you
could expect to recover from a random post on a public internet forum––assumimg you've been wronged.

I mean, what kind of $$––ie, damages worthy of compensation––are we talking here?
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 25, 2006 - 11:48pm PT
Hardman Knott: You can only recover damages if there are actually damages. Sort of a legal crux there.

In addition, libel and slander need prove a malicious attempt to do grievious damage.

Furthermore, pots and kettles rarely have their day in court.
andanother

climber
May 25, 2006 - 11:52pm PT
are you going to sue me for calling you a paranoid delusional?
maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 25, 2006 - 11:53pm PT
Oh, for everyone's sake, give it up.

The insufferable drama is too much, Dirt.

FWIW, I'm a woman and I've found you to be alternately obnoxious toward women in your advances on the Internet and misogynistic since you showed up here and RC.com. So, there, ApocalpyseNow is saved from your suit of libel.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
May 25, 2006 - 11:54pm PT
Dr, I was composing my edit above and so didn't see your most recent post.
It's good to have a real lawyer in on the discussion; I merely play one on the internet...
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 25, 2006 - 11:57pm PT



Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 25, 2006 - 11:59pm PT
WBraun

climber
May 25, 2006 - 11:59pm PT
Hey Locker????

Weren't we just talking about Jerry Springer?

Wow, and It's happening right now and here in the raw.

WOW!
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 12:04am PT
I would be willing to write some "cease & desist" letters with legal letterheads for $500 a letter if anyone needs them.

Sometimes just a letter from an attorney to cease & desist can do the job.



If the real goal is to get money, well, it is a nice trick to pull off. The targets must have some money to begin with!

Insolvency has its perks in these situations.

WTF have I done lately to be attacked again?


Is it OK if I suggest in nice fashion to dirtineye that he take the dirt OUT OF HIS EYE and then maybe his vision will become less obstructed? Would that be ok to ask or is that an attack?

Please advise, because I do not want to be misread as an attack again.

Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 12:06am PT



Another suggestion a lawyer MIGHT offer dirtineye would be for him to remove all the vitriol he has posted as a sign of good faith if he wanted the others to do like wise.

Sometimes a unilateral gesture can work and is worth a try in a case such as this.

Sometimes.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 01:15am PT
Mac, you have not addressed the issue.

I've done nothing to you, and you know it.

This is not about being obnoxious or misogynistic, and even so, those things are not illegal.

This is about being accused of stalking and abusing, those are crimes, and I have no part in them.

Richard, your bit about me on your blog is pretty good stuff to start with.

You talk about removing vitriol, look at your site.

The time for olive branches is soon to pass. You have left a nice trail for me, including emails to friends of mine, They have sent me copies. One said I should sue the pants off you.


fortunately nobody has been dumb enough to believe you and act on it yet.

But I know someone who had a fellow show up threatening to beat his ass at work over posts on the internet.

This sort of thing happens, and if and when anything like that happens to me as a result of your crap, you are in deep.

I am afraid it will, seriously.

So, as you say, get my name out of your mouth, NOW.

Tomorrow will be too late.

Two years is long enough for your lies to continue, I feel I can show some damages right now, you are causing me stress at a bad time, and we will see what will come of it.

You asked what you can do, you say you want t obehave, well you know what you can do, and it is the right thing.

You are not stupid, fix it while you still can.



Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 01:33am PT
Curt Johnson: I invite you to sue me. I look forward to it. The court system needs a good laugh. I have witnessed first hand your abuse of woman and will readilly testify under oath and sign affidavit to it.

Please send any and all legal matters to my own counsel:

David Eisenstadt
2421 Aspen Street
Philadelphia Pa 19145



Truth is always a real defense against charges of libel or slander sir.

http://www.drkodos.blogspot.com

I will remove nothing. I stand by all my statements and can no more change my true feelings I had in the past than I can go back and change my behaviors.


I am starting to really feel sorry for you that you need this type of attention. At the same time I realize and fully acknowledge how foolish I am for giving it to you.

What is it you really hope to gain with this latest campaign?


Now go please enjoy your remaining time on the planet with those people you so desire and choose to have you as their friend and please thus allow me to do likewise.

dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 01:54am PT
YOU are lying once again Richard.

You have witnessed no such thing, and lying here is just one more stike against you.

You have no proof, you don't even have a good story.

Given the fact that you have been caught in several other lies lately, I am surprised that you wish to continue this one.

I pity you.

YOU are damned by your own words.

Let's see you fight that.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 01:56am PT
I am not lying. Bring on the lawsuit. I would rather go climbing with you when you feel up to it.




Either one. Your choice.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 02:01am PT
YOU want to go climbing with someone you know to be a stalker and abuser?

My, aren't you the forgiving sort?

I am afraid not.

But as usual, you make it very easy for me, and hard for you.

Just like the lies about chess Richard, just like that.

Only this is serious.

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:09am PT
Werner wrote:

"Hey Locker????

Weren't we just talking about Jerry Springer?

Wow, and It's happening right now and here in the raw.

WOW!"


and Werner, let's do this one together OK???


"JERRY! JERRY!! JERRY!!!"


Hey Curt, you have been claiming to be so sick, chemo, and whatever... aren't there more things for you to worry about than this sh#t???... I mean seriously. Is it worth it? And even I can plainly see that you have barely a leg to stand on legally... Sure you could sue. Anyone can sue for almost anything if they had a mind to. Doesn't mean they can win. You really want to get all tied up with legal sh#t when life is so precious?
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:11am PT
OK. So it is serious. So fecking what.


Shut the feck up and save you stories for your deposition you fool.

I will climb with anyone. I am a climbing whore. You know that. It is just the ROCK I am choosey about.

LISTEN, you ain't OJ. You are just a person that can't leave ladies alone, that's all. Heck, if you were in Hollywood, it would be chic what you do with all the cyber stalking and what not...

Never said you commited crimes, bro. Get you stories straight, Here is my side for the last time:

~ You tried to hire me because you said WOMAN from RC.com had libelled you.

~ You said you had evidence and proof they hand comitted crimes against you.

~ I investigated.

~ Turns out you harassed them.

~ I then firsthand saw how you treated woman in restaurants and at the cliffs.

~ I got pissed at you.

~ It then spilled onto this website because you followed me here after I blew you off and started ignoring you OR I got banned from other websites where you would not let it go. Check the posts on ST.




And now here we are.

How many people do you need to tell you, Curt? You think maculated is lying for me? WTF. I think it is safe to say that she may not hate me, but she ain't paying dues in my fan club, brother.

Everyone is lying. Everyone except Curt.

So how did you get Wes Allen started in Trad climbing again?


Now, I want to talk about climbing like I posted today. You are obsessed with this and threaten lawsuits.

SO GO DO IT BUDDY AND SHUT THE FECK UP ABOUT IT.


The very first thing your lawyer will tell you:

SHUT THE F_CK UP. Wanna bet?


Fool.

I call you out for your proof that people slandered you? There is none.
I call you out on climbing? You won't climb.
Call you out on chess? You won't play.



I now call you out on your lawsuit.


Curt: You have musical talent. Why not focus on that instead. You play the guitar like a mother f_cker. Beautiful. One of the best I ever heard. I was embarassed to pick it up after you made it sound so amazing.

What happened to you, man?
WBraun

climber
May 26, 2006 - 02:17am PT
I've had women tell me also about how you harrassed them dirtineye.

I also know that these women have absolutley no reason at all to make this up.
Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
May 26, 2006 - 02:18am PT
"The very first thing your lawyer will tell you:

SHUT THE F_CK UP."

We must have the same lawyer.

Mine says that all the time!
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 02:19am PT
Locke, I have sat by for two years while Richard has done this crap. tThat is long enough. It causes me problems.

Legally speaking, you have no clue.

I have indeed discussed this with real lawyers who are currently in practice, and I am making my denials here, in the same place that I was accused, falsely and unjustly.

There is a reason for that.

IF you don't deny something claimed against you, well to put it simply, that's bad. I am making my assertion publicly that these accusations are false, and that they bother me, and cause me harm.

YOU don't have access to the stuff he has sent to friends of mine.

Now, this is not a joke.

It will not go away.

It will be resolved.

Two years of bullsh!t constantly spewed about me is more than enough.


Now I think you should just back out, and stick to joking matters, cause this one is for real.

And do NOT presume to tell me how to spend my time.

IF I did not think this was serious, and that it was causing me real harm, I would not be doing this.





locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:19am PT
I have personally eluded to knowledge of similar situations that have been told me by certain known woman on this site... I believe them. And with the ocassional "bashing" of woman it makes for an even stronger case in favor of the woman that have disclosed certain information to me... I have been posting OBVIOUS pointers for you to catch onto and you remain blind... I tried! You best leave it alone dude or someone is likely to really let it fly... and it WILL be at your expense...

In the meantime, calm down and don't "Go locker" on everybody...

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:29am PT
So here it is... the day of the LAwsuit... All dressed up Curt is there, RIchard there, lawyers and all... Curt has hired a female lawyer to represent his case... the Judge is female... it is all going Curts way and then this...


"and we don't ever have stupid young anti social bimbo wannbe climber chicks"...


Case dismissed!!!...

(I cracked myself up with this one...)
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 02:32am PT
Nice misquote locker.

YOu really are the village idiot.

And you can believe what you want from whomever you want.

Two sides to every story, and consider the source.

Now take your inuendo and shove it.

Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:32am PT
Curt, you got jennifer to post here and then I emailed her and told her to mind her business. I told her that you were a loser and that she was a fool for defending you. And that chances are she knew you for less time then she led on.


I give you permission to POST THAT ENTIRE EMAIL I SENT HER here in public.

I dare you to post it.

I still have a copy of it as well. And guess what, brother, I do not need permission to post publically an email I created and sent to someone.

I do not want to further embarass you. Go ahead and post it if you dare or call my bluff and I will. You think I do not know the law with language? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Now put up or shut up buddy. How many times are you going to squat over the pot and not take a sh*t? You dying fool. At least in Las Vegas they charge people to play poker and so will your lawyer to take your case.




dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 02:34am PT
Right richard, unlike you, I do not need to have people post stuff for me.

Go ahead, post what you wrote, make yourself look even worse than you already do.

Don't let me stop you.

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:38am PT
LIKE WERNER WROTE...and there is no reason for them to lie...





You are doing the harm to yourself man...and it's catching up!

EDITED:


"and consider the source."

Oh I have dude! And they are very credible, upstanding citizens that are self supporting, hard working, caring, honest sorts at that...
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:39am PT
Curt: Sue me. I am waiting.


Do you need my local address for the paperwork? Email me and I will send it to you.

NOW PLEASE LET THESE PEOPLE GET ON WITH THEIR CLIMBING LIVES.


~ I promise to not post after you in your threads. In fact, any thread you start, I will never post in.

~ Please leave me alone or get on with your silly lawsuit. PLEASE!! STOP DICK TEASING ME!! YOU HAVE ALL THREE OF MY INCHES UPRIGHT in anticpation of a this impending lawsuit.

What is the name of your attorney again? I gave you mine. I will call him tomorrow and see what type of settlement need be worked out.

His name again? Address? hmmmm???


I now legally ask you to leave me alone since I am the defendant and must meet with my counsel to start preparations for this dramatic turn of events in my life. I think any decent court would also ask you to stop harassing the people you are suing?

At least until the case is settled?

hehe




Good night & good luck.



locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:48am PT
yes Curt! I am truly Jtrees "Village Idiot"... Oddly however, you are the one in the DOGHOUSE...



Don't worry, I'll be there too soon enough... BUt it won't be for anything I have ever said or done wrongly towards woman...of that I am 100% certain...




EDITED:


dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 02:51am PT
Bullshit Werner.

Name one.

Name ONE.

Fine for someone to hide and accuse with no recourse for the accused.

Fine indeed.

YOU should know better than that.

NO reason to lie? I can think of one who loves to hold a grudge, and so has reason to lie.

FIne of you to hear only one side and make up your mind.

And you are supposed to be a philosopher? A thinker? Fair minded?

BAH!

ANY woman that asked me to not talk to her, I don't want to talk to em.

But some apparently feel you should read their minds. I believe in directness. Once it is clear I am not wanted, I am gone.

I don't like to be where I am not wanted.





Jody

Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
May 26, 2006 - 02:53am PT
Evolution is a fraud and so is global warming.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
St. Louis
May 26, 2006 - 02:54am PT
I'm SOOO confused. At first I though Apocalyse was in trouble. But wait, no, it's Richard. Richard is in trouble. No no no!!! It's Locker. Locker is asking for it. Whoa Nelly, now the tables have turned and Werner is being called out. Egads!

Soap operas are SOOO confusing....
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:55am PT
this is what Werner wrote...

"I've had women tell me also about how you harrassed them dirtineye."...


may or may not have happened. But your question to Werner does not exactly address it like he wrote it...

Dirt wrote:

"ANY woman that asked me to not talk to her, I don't want to talk to em."
(By the way, even in your own words you do not say that you STOPPED talking to them...you just said you "Don't want to"...)

Someone can be harrassed BEFORE you ask them to leave you alone...



EDITED:

Dude you are gonna fry if you don't watch it...I can see it coming... can't you???
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:55am PT





I love that Talking Heads song:

Road to Nowhere


Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:57am PT
Crimpergirl: You got it down. Did you get the program guide?

Will you explain it to me one day?


It is more convuluted than LOST was last night.




Hey Jody? If I come out to Cali, can we climb together one time? I would love to meet and tie in together and have some laughs with you. And you could give me some photo pointers!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
St. Louis
May 26, 2006 - 03:01am PT
This is worse than Temptation Island - I'm freakin' hooked. I got SO hooked on Temptation Island (love ya' Billy!!!) that I cried when it ended.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 03:06am PT
Locker that is ridiculous.

Even you should know that.

Werner, I am waiting.

This really has gone on way too long, I am tired of these mystery women I am supposed to have harrassed saying things behind my back, giving me no chance to offer any explanation.

Get it out, clear it up.

If I unknowingly harrassed any one it was unintentional, and I apologise for it.

I REALLY don't want to be where I am not wanted.

I have plenty of friends and even woman friends who like my company, and it is much nicer to be with them. Really.

And if you don't believe that, I can't do any better, so, Fine, suit yourself.

But you are sadly mistaken, and don't have all the facts, if you have ANY facts at all.

Jody

Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
May 26, 2006 - 03:09am PT
Sure, we can do this climb. It is about an hour from my house.


Have Curt meet us out here and with some counseling from me you two will go home best friends.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:13am PT
Belay me well, I can't swim too good.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:16am PT
I have plenty of friends and even woman friends who like my company, and it is much nicer to be with them. Really.

How about one time you prove yourself correct by leaving and being with them instead of being here.

~ You don't climb at Yosemite.
~ You hated Joshua Tree.


WTF are you here for, then?


Do you ever go back and read your own posts when you get sober?

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:22am PT
EDITED ALSO


It's down below again.. How many times did I send this one and fuk it up???


By the way, I know what you meant dude... just "BREAKING IT DOWN"
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 03:22am PT
Spoken like the true pariah that you are.

Banned on HOW many sites again?

What was that you had to say to amber on rc.com again Richard?

Is the way one should deal with women the way you wrote to jen? She described your words as filth. Called her a c#&% you did.

Post that email will you Richard?

ME, I have never been banned on any site.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:22am PT
EDITED


I re-wrote it below because I screwed something up...
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 03:24am PT
Locker, you just take the cake.

Do I need to spell it out for you?

OK, I said EVEN women because I am being accused of bad things against, yes women.

Are you really that dense?

YES!

You can bite me.



locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:24am PT
BREAK IT DOWN

"I have plenty of friends and EVEN woman friends who like my company"


Had you left it at "I have plenty of friends" it would have said enough... but to HAVE to point out with the word "EVEN" makes it a little iffy IMHO.


"Friends" is all inclusive...not GENDER specific...


EDITED FOR A LITTLE STUPID COMIC RELIEF:

"Locker, you just take the cake."

Well if I did, where in hell did I put it? I want a piece!!!...
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:27am PT
I like being banned. I do it on purpose so I get away for a while. try it. I am here aren't I. Or you talking to yourself?

I am on RC.com any time I want. Also SCC. FIVE SITES HAVE BANNED ME. So what. I am proud. The truth hurts some people. Like you.

TRUE: Even the Howard Stern Site banned me. HOWARD FRICKIN STERN BANNED DRKODOS.

http://www.sternfannetwork.com

check it out! put in my name drkodos and see. No one can deal with drkodos. Not even me. I will even give you my password so you can get "the gay".
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 03:29am PT
Jody, I was already friends with Richard once. That was enough.

AS he already stated, when he dropped his kid on his head, I led him to the childrens hospital in Bham.

Some friend he turned out to be.

I never had a 'friend' tell a bunch of lies about me before.

I've already recounted the tale of how he got to his current state regarding me, not doing it again. It did involve me defending a girl he was attacking, and because I defended her, he went rabid on me.


If you've ever seen him on one of his fits in public, usually over nothing, you'd know.

locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:32am PT
EDITED once again... HELP!!!




Bottom line as I see it, you and Richard don't particularly like each other and are now here to entertain us Jerry Springer style...

thanks! As it is actually very entertaining... I am on the edge of my seat, gripped, awaiting yet more attacking so that I might play the "Armchair Admiral"...


Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:34am PT
A mouth is a mouth is a mouth to me.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:36am PT
Holy moly! I go out for dinner and a few cocktails and all hell has broken loose.
I bet the attention-seeking Rimjob can only dream of such high drama! This thread is
at once interesting and entertaining––something that isn't necessarily achieved
merely because someone is able to scream the loudest for attention...Do carry on!
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 03:47am PT
HK

yeah it is out there isn't it? like a ST boxing match...

I think it only a matter of time before it get's totally out of hand...


Like it or not, believe it or not, true or not, things have been said... by more than one! In a court room they would be called "Witnesses"... and THEY would most likely be believed... and their testimony, would be seen as truth because I doubt anyone could find any reason for them to lie...
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:51am PT
BAN BOTH PLEASE





Are you taking me to court or not you loser wank?

Will you allow my multple scelrotic ass to kick your Cancer ridden testicles into your belly? I will do it on PAY PER VIEW if you want.

WTF do you want, you sicko?

LEAVE ME ALONE. GO BACK TO STALKING WOMEN.


This is the best example of one person nopt ever wanting anyone else to change and move on as I can demonstrate.

I BEG YOU TO LEAVE ME ALONE.


zardoz

Trad climber
Austin, TX
May 26, 2006 - 07:38am PT

Will you allow my multple scelrotic ass to kick your Cancer ridden testicles into your belly?


Jesus God, that made me laugh out loud. Oh shiite. Pathos like none I have ever seen. Good stuff, Richard.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
May 26, 2006 - 08:49am PT
Pretty pathetic stuff on this thread, almost enough to make me leave this forum.

But then, nobody made me open this thread or write this post, so maybe I am a bit hypocritical.

At the risk of being put on your sh*t list Dr Kodos, reading your blog makes me think that you have some pretty deep rooted animosities that you need to address for your own sake.

And I have to add that Dirtineye doesn't come off very well in this thread also.

That’s just how I see it. And again, to reiterate, there are some pretty vitriolic posts on this thread by several people.

It is either all a big wind up or some of you need to get a life. I know I do.
Toddtar

Trad climber
Spartanburg, SC
May 26, 2006 - 10:03am PT
A tought for this tread!



happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
May 26, 2006 - 10:11am PT
"This really has gone on way too long, I am tired of these mystery women I am supposed to have harrassed saying things behind my back, giving me no chance to offer any explanation."

Yes - it certainly has gone on way too long.

Dirtineye - Why don't YOU tell the story of screaming at me, at the top of your lungs, for 5 minites straight, frothing at the mouth when I told you to stop, yelling "I can talk to you any way I choose, and you can't stop me." And then continuing on, screaming and screaming, the same word over and over and over? Screaming, in a strange sing-song type of voice, "Moron! Morrrrronnnnnn! MORON!!!!?

Yes - you apologized for that, in the middle of the night you woke me up, and told me you "felt bad.....But god-dammit, I DROVE you to it." Which has been your qualification every time since, when you somehow got me to respond to you, and when I soon again asked you to leave me alone. To the point of referring to it only last week, here in a thread. I suppose I might have imagined that comment "no apology is acceptable...." wasn't aimed at me, and have no doubt you'll say that. After all - as you have told me on numerous occassion - my perspective is f*#ked up because of the trauma I lived through as a kid. Funny, though - of every one I ever told, about the things you said and the way you treated me....nobody else ever said "your perception is screwed up, Terrie."

And if you think this is the "only" issue of abuse you laid on me(and I think that you do think this), I can tell you that it is simply not true.

Legally abusive? No, not legal. You never hit me. But I can tell you straight out, I reacted to you the way I did that night(by completely shutting down, saying nothing, and not moving) because I was afraid of what would happen if I attempted to defend myself in any other way. I shut down for the rest of the trip, and getting you on the airplane because I was afraid of you. I even let you have sex with me the next morning - because I was afraid of you. I have no doubt that hurts you deeply to read that. How do you think I felt, making the decision I had to that morning - to do nothing when you woke me up, except acquiese. How do you think I feel, writing that here?

I have tried SO HARD to get away from you. I left rc.com because it sickened me to see you referring to me in posts, PM'ing me moments after I got online, and also seeing you putting out the "I'm old enough to be your father" stchtick to the new, young, girls, and then "following" them through the site. I think the final straw was when that girl posted the picture of her as a baby, nude on the rug, soon after you posted that you were dying. "to give a sick man his wish." I could only imagine that it wasn't only one, single, request for a naked shot, that led that girl to post that....and I didn't WANT to be thinking about it. I left, to let you have your life.

I think it is an odd coincidence, Curt, that your "Tirdae Part Deux" post came to this site days after I last told you to leave me alone. That in the six months prior to that, you posted about 300 posts here, but in the 3 months since, you have posted over 1,000.

While I know you have had other issues that you have been addressing here, I have a right to feel the way I do. And I WILL readily admit, that you have finally stopped sending me emails, I feel it is ONLY because I have consistently ignored you in any way, shape or form. You HAVE sent emails since I asked you to stop; the last one was less than a month ago, blocked.

You have a right to be on this site - that is beyond question. It's not my site. But F*#K.....you are here day in, day out, in nearly every damned thread. Talking some starnge stuff that is pretty incongruent.

You have said a lot of things on this site in the last 3 months that present you in a light that is much different than the person I saw last year. The history of yourself that you personally told me. It has been very painful, to watch you do this.....

And, I am well aware that I am not the only woman on this site that has felt uncomfortable because of you. So, please - spare the "I haven't been bothering you" retort. All these mentions of women who are upset? They AREN'T all referring to me.

The truth is - that you are a fun climbing partner, albeit an easily distracted one, so long as it is on your local crags. You're smart, funny and entertaining. The southeast is beautiful, and you have all day, every day, to play as you wish. A dirtbag's delight. Let no one misunderstand that.

The problem, Curt - is that you simply don't understand your behavior is f*#ked up. It ISN'T normal to berate women, to follow them around on websites, and such. You say you love women, and no doubt you do, but your actions betray a deeper malaise.

I have stayed silent because I DID have a handle on my situation. I simply had to not interact, even though you come here, every day, all day, and post in alomost every single thread. But this just issue just doesn't seem to stop. I would go so far as to say that I think some of the aggression coming out on this site is a subconscious reaction to having this all foisted upon the site.

ST laughed at the drama; well, here it is. I am so skivved out to be writing these words.


I am so glad I am away for the holiday. Enjoy it, people.




dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 10:17am PT
WEll Patrick, you are not alone in your misguided opinion, but that's your business.

If you can't tell sh!t from shineola, and some can't, there is nothing I can do about it.

But there still is not one accusation against me with any proof or truth or even a real name to it, and as you have said, reading richard's site does make an impression.

Every time I turn the light on these roaches, they dissappear. They NEVER come out with anything. Now you would think with all this opportunity, there would be someone to speak up, with a real accusation.

And I have offered an appology for any unintentional problem I may have caused, but even that will not work.

So I find it hard to accept that you will damn me for something I apparently did not know I was doing, and I find it harder that anyone of reasonable mind will accept that harrassment works like this:

A person is harrassing me. I will not tell them that they are harrassing me and to leave me alone, but I will talk to others about it, stir up romors and gossip, and never come forward myself. It is harrassment because I say it is.

There is NO WAY anyone can defend themselves against this sort of thing.

How would you like it if you were in my position?

Think about that.
maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 26, 2006 - 11:11am PT
Thanks for posting, Happie. There goes the libel suit again.

Curt, you did harrass me when you first showed up on RC.com. I was a mod at the time. You were doing it to others. I brought up the possibility of banning you (as that's why Pete was banned, too) because you were making women uncomfortable. We decided to let it lie.

Obnoxious is a fine line to some. Pete never did anything to me except be flirtatious, and I just didn't play back. It irked the crap out of me when women wouldn't come forward with their stories and he got banned anyway. You, on the other hand, had people coming forward. Some women find obnoxious on the same level as harrassment. You may not understand that, but it's the truth.

I'm done with this thread. It's gross.
WBraun

climber
May 26, 2006 - 11:16am PT
Dirtineye

That was maculated and happiegrrrl's, post above you want more?

You will not stand a chance dude, believe me!

This is not bullsh#t, and you yourself know the real truth.

If you really try to take this out in the open, you will be taken down by two more women who are highly respected here on this site.

You would not want to deal with them, I guarantee you will lose your case.

Scream lies all you want, it will not help you.


Bilbo

Trad climber
Truckee
May 26, 2006 - 11:19am PT
This thread is GROSS and pathetic!

Take it to Drama.com would ya

Go f*#king do something dirt, it seems your on your computer WAY to much, and you whine like a little bitch. Did someone violate you thru the internet? STFU and go somwhere else.
ThomasKeefer

Trad climber
Monterey, CA
May 26, 2006 - 11:23am PT
Hey..
Do you think that these discussions are best left to email and not airing all your dirty laundry for all of us to read?
Or is this all some sort of self administered therapy that you are looking for validation from.
Sorry for the harshness, just please keep it off this site!
landcruiserbob

Trad climber
the ville, colorado
May 26, 2006 - 11:40am PT
WTF????????????????? Don't you guys have each others personal emails?I can't believe you guys are dragging this sh#t out on a forum.Beat the hell out of each other & go have a beer.rg
landcruiserbob

Trad climber
the ville, colorado
May 26, 2006 - 11:51am PT
I think this is the worst fuking troll ever!!!!!!!!!This site sucks & I suck for reading this blog.rg
Kofi Donny Annan

climber
darkest of africa
May 26, 2006 - 12:02pm PT
and now, a rebuttal from Kofi to the above posters feeling soiled by reading the soap opera..

"That's gold, Jerry! Gold!"
montgomery wick

Social climber
Baltoro Glacier, Pakistan
May 26, 2006 - 12:35pm PT
holy crap, this was some super entertaining sh#t until that girl stated she had sex with curt. man, that is gross. My 2 cents are to edit your post IMMEDIATELY!!! I cannot adequately state how repulsed I am.

/hey curt! long time no talk,
ciao
g
mcKbill

Gym climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
May 26, 2006 - 12:35pm PT
ST Folks,

I feel very sad and guilty for reading (most but not all) of this thread.

...it's like watching a train wreck about to happen
...and not doing anything (as if I could)
......well, I CAN look away

It's not my idea of entertainment anymore.

I will pray for peace and for healing.

--Bill



Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 01:24pm PT
At the risk of being put on your sh*t list Dr Kodos, reading your blog makes me think that you have some pretty deep rooted animosities that you need to address for your own sake.

I do not have a shitlist, Patrick. Now would you be "on it" if I did. Sharing honest opions makes me respect people, not dislike them. I like your take on things even when I disagree with it. In fact, what I really enjoy most of all is reading the writing of people whose perspectives are different than mine. These people I learn the most from.

Ever hear of Jonathon Swift? The concepts of satire? A lot of my blog is satire. I am a philosophical satirist. Not all, but most. Some of it is pure vitriolic drivel. Either way, it was how I felt when I wrote it. Honest feelings are not always pretty.


Now, I admit I have issues. Many of them. 34 at last count. (33 if this can be absolved) But here is the crux: I do not hide from them or deny them. I keep them out in the open for people to poke at, needle, and am always trying to make myself better. I guess I am the only one here with issues and the rest of you are practically perfect in every way.

Like Mary Poppins.


I used to have a lot of anger. That's what happens to people when they have been beaten and left for dead because they tried to help people. Yes, that hapened to me. I was beaten to within an inch of my life by a group of thugs.

Sort of makes one angry.

I know what I am. A work in progress.

However, aside form this one person continually attacking me across three websites, many people here accept me for what I am. And I appreciate that.

Above all else, I am a human being that is a rock climber and I love climbing in the Valley, Red Rocks, J Tree and the Sierra. And that is why I am here. The rest of this stuff needs to be exorcised and I am willing to play the role of EXORCIST and pay whatever price need be paid. I am afraid of nothing and you did not piss me off. Whatever the repercussions of these behaviors are, I accept them.

I am not pissed or angry now, nor was I when I wrote any of this or any of the above posts. I am frustrated that this arse-clown keeps going and going an goin like the energizer bunny. I have been trying to move on and this butt-muncher refuses to allow it. Therefore, he need be dealt with. Removed.

I was not the one lying about his behavior and propensity to be abusive towards ladies, as you can see from some of the above posts by women. And that was all I ever wanted was to bring this out so that other people would KNOW THE TRUTH. There is a reason I am a victims rights advocate. I have been a victim of abuse myself and it is hard to watch others get hurt and do nothing. I stood up for PtPP when he was falsey accused and villified and that got me introuble as well. I can take it. I am a big boy.




And to the people that say email: F_ck that. I am not looking to resolve this, patch it up with this guy. Comprende?

I did not come here to praise Caeser, I came to bury him.
golsen

Social climber
kennewick, wa
May 26, 2006 - 01:38pm PT
Here is some more of drkodos writings, courtesy of his blog:

“Tonight's experiment was a 100 percent success. Thesis proved. Thank you idiots and users of www.supertopo.com. You were the perfect foil.
……..
Call me a twisted & demented f*#k if you will, but I love it when I get the whole hive stirred up. And it is easy to do!

Here is a good message board to go into and take a dump on the people that dwell there:

http://www.supertopo.com

I just came back from a visit there where I shat all over them. And they loved it! Like most message boarders, they are scat lovers. They open their mouths wide in anticipation of a steamy hot pile of poo being dropped into their starving orifice. They cannot get enough of it to eat!

They pretend they hate drama, but they live off of it. Go in, register, and post up and watch the ants scurry about trying to figure out what is happening to them.

What a bunch of idiots to think that their board make a difference. A rock climbing message board. hehehehehe What fools.”



Dr, I don’t have anything against you except I do believe you are correct in your self assessment: you are a twisted f&&&.

carry on!
Balls MaGee

climber
May 26, 2006 - 02:09pm PT
sh#ts weak.....wiz-eak

dirtineye. im a girl, and i want to show you my boobies.

what has ST become? what happened to simply ignoring people like this?
dirtbag

climber
May 26, 2006 - 02:09pm PT
Who gives a sh#t?
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 02:13pm PT
Golsen: I stand by those words.

Yes. I am very twisted.

Men who write on sh#t house walls
Roll their turds into little balls.
But the men who read these words of wit?
Eat those little balls of sh*t.


The moral of the tale:

Yes I am twisted, but nearly as much as the rest of peoples that enjoy the melo-drama and watching other people suffer. I maintain that most here are more twisted than I could ever hope.

David Lynch gets d#@&%e chills when he visits this place.

I merely am an artist that recreates what I see and puts it on a new canvass. If you do not like my art, then YOU change what it is I see in this place.


PS: Thanks for visiting the blog and giving it a plug.


http://www.drkodos.blogspot.com
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 02:27pm PT
"I merely am an artist that recreates what I see and puts it on a nbew canvass."...



ah! the "old standby"...


"Shock Value"


works almost everytime!





EDITED:


Terrie/Happie is a friend of mine. She is a really cool and sweet lady. She loves to climb and she is good at it. I respect her totally and she is always welcome with my "Entourage"...

Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 26, 2006 - 02:46pm PT
wow- what a collection of unbelievable weirdness.


nothing like a group of truely odd people to make a guy feel totally together...






edit- this kodos guy and ragmeat/rimjob may not be the same person, but still, they are the same. why encourage either one?

edit2- name one good thing that ever came from the procession of rc.com rejects to this forum (maybe that's a topic for another thread).
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:10pm PT
Matt: I was a member here before I was a member on RC.com there and was likely here before you since I came the day the site opened for business.

Who are you?

Would you please mail me one of your poops? You know, one of all those ones that smell like flowers and would cure disease?

LOCKER: I do not claim I do it for shock value. I claim that it is my honest perspective and raw. There is a subtle but distinct difference between the two.

Anyone that has been to my shows will attest to the entertainment value, their uniqueness and that is is a form of art that is beyond anything they have seen before at a climbing slide show. It is not done for shock value. It is done to share a perspective.

And the perspective is a honest one.


I can understand the confusion since the entire web is a place of ethereal lies, misperceptions, feints and fabulisms and most of you people are truly miscreants, misanthropes and have issues beyond what I could possibly conjure. And the ones that squeek at me the loudest are the ones with the real issues in the real world. Like our compadre, Squirt. You see, he is a schmuck in the real world.

I only play on eon the interenet.

The Crux: I push the bar so far that people who would mever normally open up now feel safe to do so about what really happened, as was witnessed in this very thread. I am the ice-breaker on the prow of the ship with my willingness to push my rhetoric beyond the pale and not back down.

The truth is now out there. It would not have been had I not been so f_cking determined to get it out there.

And now, maybe other women will not have to go through what these woman have gone throguh and suffered.

Doing the right thing is never popular, but I will always do it, regardless of its price to me or its prioce to the other people that are the truly guilty ones.

Now, let me get my cape back on cause I need fly to another crisis that needs my intervention. I will be back when I am needed to do the job that only I can do.


~ drkodos
Blowboarder

Boulder climber
Back in the mix
May 26, 2006 - 03:11pm PT
PM me an address Doc, I'll send you some poop that fits neither of those requirements.


A poop is a poop is a poop.
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 26, 2006 - 03:16pm PT
DK-
clearly you are down w/ the poop.
(not that there is anything wrong with that)

all things being equal, i think i'll just keep on not really interacting w/ mine, not that you should be made to feel uncomfortable just because you are into that sort of thing.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 03:25pm PT
Matt, no worries. What with all the baby poop I need to be changing, I just thought that since you are convinced your anus only creates works of art, you would share.

FWIW: I saw where someone else on eBAY was selling a more expansive sense of humor than the old model you are currently using. You should think about upgrading.

If you get yourself a drkodos Rosetta stone, the messages make more sense.

Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 26, 2006 - 03:35pm PT
"Here is a good message board to go into and take a dump on the people that dwell there"

"I just came back from a visit there where I shat all over them. And they loved it! Like most message boarders, they are scat lovers. They open their mouths wide in anticipation of a steamy hot pile of poo being dropped into their starving orifice. They cannot get enough of it to eat!"

"Golsen: I stand by those words"




i don't need a new sense of humor any more than i need a secret decoder ring, i know enough to spot a self impressed blowhard with my own modest faculties, thanks.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 04:09pm PT
I would dare say this thread and your continued responding in it is proof that indeed scat is a main component of people's internet diet on this site.

Look at the post counts on climbing threads.
Look at the post counts on soap opera threads.


Game.
Set.
Match.



If you need some condiments for your poop-sandwich they are over there on the counter with the napkins.



Don't forget to wipe your chin clean.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville
May 26, 2006 - 04:27pm PT
AAARRGHH! I"M HOOKED!

Will Dirtineye finally meet the mystery Yosemite women?

How long can locker hold onto his Village Idiot title?

Can Richard ever play the guitar again after seeing Dirtineye whip out his amazing riffs?

Will Werner rescue known stalkers after this thread?

What about pud?
Does he really care or is this just an amusing way of wasting time at lunch?

I'VE GOT TO KNOW!!!
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
May 26, 2006 - 05:00pm PT
Game.
Set.
Match.



you're right pal.
if what you want is for people to think you are an ass and an idiot, and to post up to tell you so, you apparently have no equal, at least no one over 15 years old. just like tradisgood, your father must be so proud of you.

btw- nice job editing mild humor into your posts after the fact (but don't you kinda wish you could have come up w/ that stuff the 1st time?). this will be it for me, you can have all the rest of the scat to yourself, just as you seem to like it.
Dr.Kodos

Trad climber
Tennessee
May 26, 2006 - 05:05pm PT
What are you talking about Matt? Editing humor into the posts?




I hope someone is copying all this down besides me. I am posting it all on my blog and other sites as soon as I can.



I am not making an ass of myself to those people that actually matter to me, Matt. They see reality. You, apparently choose to see it differently. Good for you.

Matt: Please go read happiegrrrls' post one more time in this thread and find out what this is all about.


I never started anything, but I am sure as f_ck trying to finish it once and for all. Now you wanna be a part of the problem, or a part of the solution, pal?

Huh?


Jody

Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
May 26, 2006 - 05:49pm PT
"...It's not my idea of entertainment anymore.

I will pray for peace and for healing.

--Bill"

Well said Bill.
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
May 26, 2006 - 07:39pm PT
Post number 100!

Everyone (well most everyone), have a great weekend and climb safe.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 07:51pm PT
Author:
WBraun

climber
From:
Dirtineye

That was maculated and happiegrrrl's, post above you want more?

You will not stand a chance dude, believe me!

This is not bullsh#t, and you yourself know the real truth.

If you really try to take this out in the open, you will be taken down by two more women who are highly respected here on this site.

You would not want to deal with them, I guarantee you will lose your case.

Scream lies all you want, it will not help you.



YEs I know the truth.

The truth is, NOBODY ever told me I was pestering them on RC.com. IF they had, I would have stopped.
I did in fact send a PNM to every girl I could remember talking to on RC when the first allegations were made, NONE said I had harrassed them.

NOT ONE would say , yes you bother me, please stop.

THAT is UNCONCIONABLE,to lie to me and then lie to the rest of you.

I do not harrass women. PERIOD.

All ANY woman need do is make it clear they want me to go, and I wll go. GODDAMNIT why is that so hard for you to understand?

THe turth is, Mac has nothing but her own screwy sensibilities, which I offend.

The truth is, OTHER women on rc.com also came forward and defended me. CLimbsomething for example, took my side and got grief for it. SHe is STILL my friend to this day.

THE truth is, Skihag and I corresponded for a while, then she decided to drop it, and didn't let me know she was no longer intersted, and then she said I harrassed her, and then she began a spitefiul campaign to have me banned for several years every time I did anything she did not like. What se wrote is a matter of record, I have a copy if it. IT is hateful and extreme.

In fact, she used to send me hateful PMS, after claiming she wanted nothing to do with me, and I would report them as harrassment.

Skihag BTW has a LONG history of grudges with men and women on RC.com.

Ask rendog about it for example.

THe truth is TErrie Marcoe is a real abuse victim, and I was not able to handle her problems.
She is also paranoid, vengeful, and runs an underground business, paying no taxes. So much for honesty.

we had a relationship that went bad. Yes, I yelled at her. She is a terribly frustrating individual-- stubborn, unwilling to compromise at all, as you would expect from someone who had been alone all their life. I have a temper, and it was not helped by the fact that she wanted me to come to the gunks when I had shingles, a very paingful medical condition, and the damned tunmor was making life very hard for me, even though I did not know it at the time.

She also knew this before now. In fact,Terrie and I tried to renew a friendship around december when I first found I was seriiously ill. YOU WIL RECALL HER POST where she said whe woudl call me. That is also a matter or record. But she changed her mind and didn't want to even be friends. I hav respected that,
but Terrrie is never satsfied. I guess that she feels I should not post in the samne threds as her. BAH!

Terrie, you are wretched. I no longer can forgive you your flaws.

I have never said anything bad about her before, because I felt she was not a bad person, But I have chanaged my mind on that.

The truth is, the girl who posted the baby pic is MY BEST girl PAL on rc.com, she did that as a joke, and we write several messages back and forth EVERY GODDAMMED DAY. ANd we talk on the phone a lot.

She does not post here, but she may now. But I hope she will not be subjected to BUllsh!t fron richard, like some of my other friends have been.

Another few facts:

THEre are several women on rc.com wo talk to me on a regular basis, who I talk to on the phone occasionally, and have known there for YEARS.

I'm sure you think I harrass them too, but they are my friends.

Hell some of the women who got sucked into skihags original mob action are now my friends, and PM me to see how I am doing. these women once were very mean to me bacuse of what someone else told them falsely, and now they are my friends, because over the years they have found the truth.

One such is Climbinganne, who I do not blame for falling for the crap Skihag put out, and anyway now anne is a pal. She even asked me to help one of her friends in the NO hurricane, but I couldn't do it.

Everyone can't be your friend, but I think it is disgusting that nobody making these claims can say that they simply asked me to stop bothering them, and then they say I harrassed them.

Yes, I am guilty of trying to make friends on RC.com with both men and women.

That is not a crime.

Yes, I would like to meet a girl who climbs and have a relationship.

that is not a crime.

So, now Werner, not for the first time you have the truth, and you may do what you choose with it.

I can tell you werner, right here in public, that we have mutual friends who know me, and you will one day be ashamed for your words here.

And one more time, so it is EXTREMELY CLEAR, if I harrassed any woman, I am sorry, I did not mean to, and all you needed to do was say, GO AWAY.


One more time, ask yourself how it would feel, if YOU were held to an invisible standard, never knowing how you were recieved, given no opportunity to make ammends, and then condemned behind your back, in a way thay has no defense.

IN otherwords, someone is harrassed if they say they are harrassed, never makes their feeling known to you and passes judgement on you, involving others, with no chance for redress.

Ask yourself how you would like that.

I think you would not like it at all.

I am NO LIAR. Some here are. Particularly one or two have been caught grinding their axe again.

There is a standard of proof that you cannot meet. The truth is on MY side.

You have innuendo, lies, agendas, grudges, and a world of hurt coming your way.

Werner I stand a better chance than you think. It is you who need to rethink. You are sucked into something you had nothing to do with. You have been duped.


Jody

Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
May 26, 2006 - 08:11pm PT
"In fact, she used to send me hateful PMS"

That was a beautiful line! Did you do that on purpose?
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 09:06pm PT
OOPS LOL, what a freudian slip!! One for the record book, no doubt.

Well I hate it, but given that the same old perontoni/ maculated & co grudge which was found GROUNDLESS then and is stil GROUNDLESS NOW has come back, The cavalry has been sent for.

This will be over when the truth is out IN FULL, and people who knew it was BS then as well as now have spoken.

And they carry weight-- the weight of TRUTH.

BTW, do you know how the inquisition was done on RC.com? I had no say in it. I was not present. I had no way to address any grievance, in face, none was ever presented to me. it was all done behind the scenes, in secret. No accuser, no witness, no facts, no chance to address accusations. Nobody was even named for me to apologise to. Some justice, eh?

ASnd still, I won. But not in the minds of skihag and smakculated, NOOOOOO.




I can post martha's own hateful writings BTW, I save everything. Damned by her own words. You can judge for yourself.

ANd I do think it is about time you see just how Richard treats women.

NOt what I say, what HE wrote. You will see it, and judge for yourself. I am confident of the result. Damned by his onw words as usual.

Some here have been duped, some have a grudge or agenda, some are misguided, all will be dealt with.

Richard wants a fistfight, LOL. Typical.

If you are going to have kangaroo court, you had better have a good kangaroo.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 09:14pm PT
you like to say..."the truth is" correct???...well "the truth is" allot of abused people fall back to familiar territory and get stuck in a vicious circle...abused often seek abusers...

"THe truth is Terrie Marcoe is a real abuse victim"...

think about that truth!!!...


Of the two of you, I'd take Terries word over yours in a fuking heartbeat!!!... She did not come here and disclose any personal information about your past... What an as#@&%e for posting that... You continue to show your abusive ways PAL!!!...


Terrie can hold her own for sure... But I will back her all the way on this one... shes the real deal and not a bullshitter at all... you on the other hand Curt are flat out poison... inside and out!!!...

EDITED because I want to point out the same thing you wrote with what you wrote...

"THe truth is Terrie Marcoe is a real abuse victim"...


You are correct Curt...


WBraun

climber
May 26, 2006 - 09:18pm PT
I have not been duped.

You will see ............
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 09:21pm PT
this dudes gotta go... it's out of hand...



he has single handedly made Rajmit and Juan look good...
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 09:42pm PT
quoting Dirt from another thread...

"Why this @$$ is tolerated I will never understand."...

Exactly right on this one... Why is someone that discloses very personal and private information tolerated???...

What a fuking low ass thing to do... I am going off on it again because it amazes me how cruel you are... and you keep trying to prove how nice you are... Right!!!...
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 26, 2006 - 09:43pm PT
Did someone write some code to denuke threads?
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 09:48pm PT
"Did someone write some code to denuke threads?"

did I miss something? why do you ask this question?
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 10:14pm PT
any time now...
BTW, so it is OK for terrie to post personal detaisl about me but not for me t odo the same in defense?

RIGHT I get it.. . kangaroo court in session, proceed

FVCKing double standard humping politikally Korrect dumbsh!ts
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 26, 2006 - 10:30pm PT
Man you just don't get it do you? You really think you are NICE... Here's a hint... a NICE person would not write that... It is her's not your's to share if she so chooses...

You have gone so much further than I ever have, would or will... I may go "Off the deepend" so to speak... But generally it is just being stupid for the fun of it and at MY expense...

You CLAIM to be fighting cancer... and I use the word CLAIM because I sort of don't really believe you...

But let's just say it is true... is that why you are so fuking bitter??? I mean seriously! You are not making any friends and are most likely losing some...

One thing you are showing everyone here is that you CANNOT be trusted with personal information...
justthemaid

climber
Los Angeles
May 26, 2006 - 10:39pm PT
WOW!

Well, if anyone makes it this far down the page...

Hi. I am the baby on the rug.

This all just came to my attention, and I think there needs to be some clarification.

The statement that I am some poor woman who was stalked and harrassed is a LIE. So those who say they "stand by their opinions" might want to revise them a tad.

Curt and I are very good friends, and I regret that my post on RC.com- which was a JOKE- was misconstrued. Indeed, I personally have never been treated with anything but respect from Dirt, and our constant banter on line is nothing but two good friends, and dozens of inside jokes y'all know nothing about- so quit making assumptions.

Richard and Terrie- I really wish you had contacted me personally if you were really so worried about my alleged harrasment. Your assumptions were dead wrong. I would have been much happier if you let me explain in person before using me as evidence in your blog.

Let me be clear- Curt has never harrassed or stalked me.

Everyone get that?



Bill

climber
San Francisco
May 26, 2006 - 10:40pm PT
WTFITS?
justthemaid

climber
Los Angeles
May 26, 2006 - 10:45pm PT
... and I can assure all you doubting-Toms that Dirt does indeed have cancer, so let's just put that to rest shall we?
Elcapinyoazz

Mountain climber
Anchorage, Alaska
May 26, 2006 - 10:51pm PT
Well it looked like Dirtybro was down for the count, but he rallies back with a couple cogent post and the Heathers are all atwitter.

What's your stake in this drama Locker brah? Why get involved? I seriously doubt the truth is anything but somewhere in the murky middle. Why put your feet down squarely on one side when the bleacher seats at half court are a prime observation post?

Can it be harrassment if the guy is never apprised that his advances are unwelcome? Sure it can, if there is reasonable expection that he should know it's skeevy behavior. But that state of affairs has hardly been proven.

Looks like a good ol fashioned dysfunctional circus and I figure all of ya are out to f*#kin lunch. But it's entertaining anyway. Carry on.

Edited to say: And the FairMaiden makes an appearance to further smackdown the libelous BS slung at Dirty. Good show dirtybird.
maculated

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 26, 2006 - 11:22pm PT
Dirt, I don't have screwy sensibilities. You're the only dude on this site and RC.com that set off my warning system. That includes PTPP. If you care to know why, I can tell you, but the point is - if someone gets the vibe that you are one way or not, it's her feeling that counts, not your perception of the situation. If someone told me I appeared to be some way, I'd think about it, I know what I look like in my head, but what do I look like in yours?

You say no one told you, I told you what my impressions have been. ::shrug::

Jody

Mountain climber
Templeton, CA
May 26, 2006 - 11:40pm PT
"You're the only dude on this site and RC.com that set off my warning system."

You lie mac. The first time we met up to climb and I pulled my gun out and put it in my pack...you mean to tell me it didn't set off your warning system?
Blowboarder

Boulder climber
Back in the mix
May 26, 2006 - 11:46pm PT
Standard rack in North Idaho.

TCU's, red Cam, gold cam, blue cam, .45, bigbro, mossberg....

Grizzly bears spotted at Chimney Rock last week, gonna be an interesting season.
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2006 - 12:08am PT
maculated, let me recall hee, your 'sensiblilites' were also set of because your POST MAN knew your name and recognized you, do you remember writing that?

I don't believe you have any credibility whatsoever.

You have never met me.

I might have writen you once or twice, trying to make friends, it is true,

YOu seem, I tryt to make freidns with both sexes.

I treaet men and women about the same in theis regaurd.

FUNNY THING, but when I call a male on the phone there is no doubt-- I am never accused of harrassing them or seeting off their precious sensibilities.

ANd poor Terrie, damn, I should have known not to ever get involved with you. An alcoholic, abused, paranoid, fired repeatedly from jobs misfit-- not exactly a good pedegree for a successful relationship, is it?

ANd if ANYONE gives me crap fpr psoting personal details I am responding in kind, she made the first move, adn I don;t see you giving her grief.

The double standard is alive and well.

AS for your idiotic bit about me being here posting in almost every thread every day, I CAN'T GET OFF THE COUCH ANBD WALK 50 FEET WITHOUT BEING WORN OUT YOU MORON. THAT is waht chemo does.

THIS IS ALL I CAN TO DO. I spend a lot of time trying to get the energy to get from one part of ythe house to the other.

Love your lack of humanity, you and Richard are well suited to each other.










JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
May 27, 2006 - 12:38am PT
I really grow tired of all the bullshit in my life.
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 27, 2006 - 04:47am PT
ElCap:

"What's your stake in this drama Locker brah? Why get involved? I seriously doubt the truth is anything but somewhere in the murky middle"...

that is a very valid question and one I will answer...

It started like any other day on ST... BS'ing and looking for fun... then Dirts negative repsonses, which there have been many of, towards females...

flash forward...


it escalated... So did I as have many others...

Terrie, is a friend (A couple others no names mentioned are also). I have not known her for a long time but truly consider her a friend. Plus she climbs!!!... Some of my part is backing a friend. Mostly however it is doing whatever I can to try and get the negative comments towards woman to stop... And like Maculated, but for totally different reasons, something just doesn't sit well or feel right and I can't pinpoint it... The way he responds to females, and I do not mean only the negative ones,...there is just something there that feels weird and uncomfortable...

I have the feeling that the person that posted was written and asked to... not that there is anything wrong with that... but perhaps some coaching???...

This whole thing is a fuking mess and personally I think all of the original posters ought to fuking NUKE their threads...

I am now heading over to my Jerry Jerry Jerry and NUKING it...
Sorry if that bothers anyone... But I am done unless more stupid and mean sh#t is written... then of course I will join the mix and get back on stage with JERRY JERRY JERRY... It is entertaining at times...

But the best of late is JODY's post. NOt because it has a funny catchline... But because of the content within... (I mean his thread that starts with with Molestaion line)
JIMB

Trad climber
May 27, 2006 - 12:07pm PT
J.C. Dirtineye, every damn woman within 10 feet of you supports the opposite of what you say and believe of yourself.

What would that tell a normal person?

Get a grip, do a re-apprasial of your actions. Look inside of yourself, it's all on you bro, on you and in you. It is not them, it is you and only you. Read the next part slowly.

Change your F*en behavior is what it says.

YOU!

YOURS!

The more people you attack the more it shows your mental weakness and inability of self apprisal.

It's all on you bubba. YOU!

I don't know them (except Werner who I know is 100% truthful and honest) or you, I have no horse in this race and have never met you. And from this distance it's easy to see:

It's all on you bubba. YOU!

bleedr

climber
robber's roost
May 27, 2006 - 12:36pm PT
I like this kind of posting style.

Double spaced, short sentences.

To emphasize the importance of what I'm saying.

It's very dramatical and full of robust flavor.

You can use italics to emphasize a crucial point.

Go with bold tags if you feel the need.

OR JUST HIT THE CAPS LOCK.


It's your choice.

No one can make it for you.

You cannot blame anyone for your bad choice of font tags.


Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
May 27, 2006 - 01:30pm PT
bleedr,

Better go back to rc.noob


Unfortunately it's Supertopo, not rc.noob, that's turned into Land of the Sock Puppets.
bleedr

climber
robber's roost
May 27, 2006 - 02:12pm PT
fattrad...maybe you likey the todd-gordon style postbetter?...i dont know i like this style too...rc.com...hmmm...i never herd of that place...can you post a link4me????...but i gotta go cuz i'm going to the black in about t-minus three hours...so uh yeah...you just keep staring at the monitor and showign the people in teh inertweb how smart and stuff you are while i go send...kthxbye.

rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
May 27, 2006 - 02:19pm PT
First off, fortunately I am married and don't have to worry about this stuff anymore. Thank god.

"What is going on with you guys here? Do you younger men not chase women anymore? Are we now all so intellectual and strictly platonic in our dealings with one another that unless we have a formal arrangement to the contrary we no longer make any passes at one another. What happened to chemistry, flirting and all of that stuff? "

Unfortunately, the religious third reich and all the politicly correct morons have things screwed down so tight everything is now wrong, immoral, or a terrorist threat.

This whole thread is pretty spooky if you ask me.
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
May 27, 2006 - 02:42pm PT
Could one of my friends give me a "ring" when this foolishness hits 150? I did "score" "100," if I get 150, or heck even 200, that could be a good sign!
Thanks
landcruiserbob

Trad climber
the ville, colorado
May 27, 2006 - 03:10pm PT
LEB, I agree with this being taken a little far but in defense of the lady above, who knows what kind of brutality she has experienced.rg
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
May 27, 2006 - 03:31pm PT
Anyone care to read "friendly, caring dirt" in action?

Read down these post by The Dirtman...and see how he responds to Katiebird. Doesn't look to be very friendly to me.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=197333#msg198161

BTW dirt, I might just be a woman, pretending to be a man, pretending to be a woman (like other women on this site) to avoid you. One never knows, on the intranet (or is it internet?, I see it spelled both ways)

Anni Lennox singing,"Sisters are doing it for themselves," playing in the background.



#135 and counting!!!
pc

climber
East of Seattle
May 27, 2006 - 04:53pm PT
There have been a long line of usenet'ers that don't know when to give up. Always have to have the last word. That's really the issue here. Sometimes you've just got to know when to shaddup. Keep digging. It'll just get worse. An apology, even if you think you're "just", goes a long way.

But then perhaps it depends on what you want...Attention? Or friends?

$.02

pc
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 27, 2006 - 04:57pm PT
"And locker you mentioned a few way back when........3 divorces right?????? lol...come on brother lets here some stories of real tribulations.."...

If I thought it was of general interest to the masses, I would gladly and honestly "Spill the beans"... And I would tear into myself and my faults concerning the X's and failed relationships... As it serves no purpose other than avoidence and denial to attack the X's. I am an open book dude...

So maybe I can turn it into another "Stupid thread"...

Unlike the "Ask locker" one... it could be called...

(MAybe suggestions from ST posters would be cool???... and maybe that could be the thread???... Name the new TV show about "lockers life"...all suggestions considered and the winner not only gets a Cameo appearence on the new TV hit, she/he also get's to rub lockers chode...???...What do you think???...
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
May 27, 2006 - 06:10pm PT
bump...just want to "score" #150!




climb safe.
Largo

Sport climber
Venice, Ca
May 27, 2006 - 06:30pm PT
Professional help in is indicated. Quickly.

If a person can't control the wild forces of their mind, it's chaos every time.

JL
Apocalypsenow

Trad climber
Cali
May 27, 2006 - 06:48pm PT
bump...#150 on my mind...(no wild forces here...just some laughs)
locker

Trad climber
Joshua Tree Ca
May 27, 2006 - 10:49pm PT
I gotta BUMP it because I am missing the DRAMA...

WEll I am #141 so your chance is just around the corner Apo...
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
May 28, 2006 - 01:20am PT
"...A couple folks are boning.....they get in a fight and scream at each other....then they do some more boning.......there are some bad feelings......she thinks he is an as#@&%e....he thinks she is wack....

Is this the summation of what happened????"

Sounds about right to me.

Curt

(the other one)
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
May 28, 2006 - 11:16am PT
Sounds pretty accurate to me. One is reeling from abuse past, the other reeling from abuse present (cancer, something I know alot about). Then we have the intermediate (Dr. Kodos) who just loves to stir the pot.

It's all very sad. All this airing of each others dirty laundry. I think Largo is on point, therapy is needed. It won't happen, but it is needed.

I don't know any of these people, in fact I really don't want to. I could care less about internet persona .vs. "real" life persona. I have hunch the two are interleaved.

Robert
WoodySt

Trad climber
Riverside
Aug 9, 2006 - 01:42pm PT
Obviously, no one is climbing much these days.
golsen

Social climber
kennewick, wa
Aug 10, 2006 - 04:46am PT
woody, look at the dates. My guess is someone (gee wonder who that is rajmit=LEB=drkodos=jennie) posted something then deleted it to bring it up top. drkodos must really have a hardon for dirt since he posts so much crap on his blog.
Lambone

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Dec 10, 2006 - 07:35pm PT
I wish all you f*#king RC.com transients with your ensuing dramas would go back the the hole you came from.

YOU ARE RUNING SUPERTOPO. get the f*#k out!
dirtbag

climber
Dec 10, 2006 - 08:18pm PT
If you are bothered by threads like this, then why bump them after they've become dormant and forgotten?
Lambone

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Dec 10, 2006 - 08:20pm PT
It was on the front page earlier, I didn't bump it. Infact I didn't even look at the dates. Someone else must have bumped it and deleted their post or something. oops.
coiler

Trad climber
yosemite
Dec 10, 2006 - 08:44pm PT
What a f*#kin' whiner... Supertacos IS nothing but slander,and mostly lies (except for me of course!) If it's too hot in the kitchen for you, then step into the ladies room and log off!
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2006 - 09:04pm PT
Yeah well, it probably is little richard or one of his lackeys, I love the bump and run.

FYI, the laywer said richard's shenannigans are actionable, but since nobody much pays attention to him, wait for some real damages.

I'm still hoping for that, since after all, accusing people of real crimes is a bit serious.


Apocalypsenow seemed to be a bit disturbed, and he quit being an ass, actually he is probably a decent guy, so I doubt he had anything to do with it.

I could delete the first post, but the annoying turds would still drag it up.

And anyway, it's important to strenuously deny false accuastions, because SOME morons are going to believe anything they hear, even third or fourth hand, from people with an axe to grind, and possibly act on it.

Long live the internet buttplugs.

Look at it this way, I give my little fan club something to jerk off to when they are alone at night.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Dec 10, 2006 - 09:10pm PT
Like watching a train wreck in slow motion
andanother

climber
Dec 10, 2006 - 09:21pm PT
And anyway, it's important to strenuously deny false accuastions, because SOME morons are going to believe anything they hear, even third or fourth hand,

You might want to take the time to actually read all the posts in this thread.
You do know how to read, right?

Or are you just in denial?

Wonder

climber
WA
Dec 10, 2006 - 09:21pm PT
"Look at it this way, I give my little fan club something to jerk off to when they are alone at night."

That the weirdest thing I've seen said around here!
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Dec 11, 2006 - 01:52am PT
Arrgh, I can't believe I got sucked into reading so much of this before I realized how old it was. I am so suck, I feel so soiled, and I will never get those 30 minutes back.

jesus wept
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Dec 11, 2006 - 02:25am PT
take a shower offwhite. itll help.

but it is really freakin hilarious to me that peeps air it out like this. but i love this statement

"...A couple folks are boning.....they get in a fight and scream at each other....then they do some more boning.......there are some bad feelings......she thinks he is an as#@&%e....he thinks she is wack....

Is this the summation of what happened????"

seems like dirtineye just needs to get laid. no shame in needin that. but pleedin' all over the internet for it is kind of sad. good luck there dirtineye
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2006 - 08:53am PT
Um, Hawkeye, thansk for your concern, but while I DO have someone who suits me quite well, and who shall remain out of the fray, the biggest problem is, wyay back in the way back machinre, I DID get involved-- with crappiegrrrl, much to my eternal dismay.

Hell hath no fury, etc. etc.etc.

Curt got it about right.


And once more, andanother continues to refer to the total bullshyte that seems to give him a hardon.

Yet gain, if you got anything, let's go to court. I want your assets! Otherwise, STFU, ya fvcking gossip monger.
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