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LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 23, 2012 - 03:40am PT
You woke me out of a sound sleep this morning, hours before the alarm was set to ring...you were desperately trying to tell me something...I wanted to hear you, to embrace you...to convince you you are loved, still.

Credit: LilaBiene

And you are remembered, not just on this day, which would have been your 80th birthday, but every single day.

Credit: LilaBiene

I don't know if you can see it, or feel it, or know it...but your soul is dancing, and lives on.

Credit: LilaBiene

Camila's second climbing lesson in Yosemite, guided by the multi-talen...
Camila's second climbing lesson in Yosemite, guided by the multi-talented BooDawg and friend of Dolt's.
Credit: LilaBiene

Credit: LilaBiene

Sending you all our love, wherever you are...

This photo of Bill was taken by Tom Frost, and was given to us at the ...
This photo of Bill was taken by Tom Frost, and was given to us at the Oakdale Climbers Festival. It is impossible (at least at this point!) to put into words what it feels like to hold this picture in my hands.
Credit: LilaBiene

You are loved. YOU ARE LOVED. You are loved.

LilaBiene & the muppet
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:03am PT
I've never seen a close portrait photo of your father before. It's good to have a face now to go with the many stories.

I had a somewhat similar experience. The first Festival for the Ancestors in Japan after the Frank Sacherer memorial in the Valley, I dreamed two nights in a row that I was visiting again with his parents in San Francisco. We were sitting at the kitchen table in the sun room, talking and laughing for hours. I knew they were telling me they were happy with the way things had been handled.

Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:42am PT
Nice post and tribute, Lilabiene. If you plan on going to the facelift next year, maybe I will get to meet you then as I didn't quite "send" this past one.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:50am PT
You're not the only one waking up with odd stirrings.

Boomer and Dolt must've met by now.

Wouldn't that have been fun to see?

Dolt you have a handicap?

No, sir, only just me.

And Boomer may I ask, sir,

Are you able to climb five-three?

You are not exactly just stuck with leftovers, Odd.

I'm thankful we met and became friends this year.

Next one's going to be twice as nice.

Batso: That's not Bill, that's Dennis Hopper, you dolt!

splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:53am PT
...to convince you are loved, still.
LOVE ABIDES ...

FOREVER!!!!!!

edit: "And now abideth faith, hope and love, these three; but the greatest of these is love."
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:13am PT
pretty darn special, that there's no last page
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:11am PT
Picture rotation.. rotation of beauty..rotation of life..
father
father
.
Daughter & Grandchild
Daughter & Grandchild
Credit: nita

Lila, Thank you.. for taking us along on your journey.
looking forward to meeting the muppet and camping with you again.

Edit; can anybody take these two pictures and put them side by side?...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:15am PT
Really lovely tribute.....thanks for sharing.....and may peace be yours, LilaBiene.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:31am PT

No words can say what you already have Lila. . .
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:34am PT
A climbing Legacy which we all know.. Gone but never forgotten..
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:37am PT
Wow the resemblance is striking. Very cool. Happy B-Day
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:46am PT
Thank you for your great posts & thank you for being you.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 23, 2012 - 09:02am PT
Oh boy....so poignant, beautiful


Susan
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 09:23am PT

nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 23, 2012 - 09:35am PT

Ed, Thanks!! ..


Perfect! ..You even cleaned up the picture.(-;


can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:04am PT
DNA rules!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:58am PT
I have a DOLT bolt hangar in my prize collections.. That tiny Chunk of Metal represents the Icon which represents us all. The mark of men is their legacies, and in this case they are all STELLAR...

Bills birth, Danos departure. Where would we be now, without them in our past?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:41am PT
hey there say, lilabiene...


oh such a sweet wonderful post!...

thank you for sharing your love for you father, here is with us, as we
'peek in'...

thank you for sharin the whole story, too...
i will always remember this find, as a treasure...
the kind that many seek, but never find...


god bless and happy thanksgiving to you, as you hold your
treasure in the midst of you and your granddaughter...

>:D<
crunch

Social climber
CO
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:41am PT
It was wonderful to meet you and muppet in Oakdale. You really livened things up, with your amazing story and big smile!

here's a couple pics:

muppet and lilabiene
muppet and lilabiene
Credit: crunch

muppet
muppet
Credit: crunch

One item of Dolt gear still in use. Fred Beckey's haulbag. So tough an...
One item of Dolt gear still in use. Fred Beckey's haulbag. So tough and well made, Fred still totes it around with him.
Credit: crunch

Best wishes from Colorado.

Crusher



Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:47am PT
Happy Birthday Bill!

That portrait of Bill is the first photo that Tom Frost ever took.

Handed Tom his Leica in 1960 and said take my picture. And what a fine picture it is.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 23, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
Iconic BUMP...
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Nov 23, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
Here's what's left of my Dolt metal collection other than bashies. Dolt pins were always special - I hated pounding on them. I left a fixed Dolt pin on Pea Soup at the Needles in 1970. It was pretty loose but could not get it out without breaking the thin lip of rock it was behind (1st pitch) so I didn't! I traded the Cobra hook for a belay seat back in the day. That was a deal! Does anyone know if he actually ever made any Gold Plated Pins mounted on Rosewood? He advertised them!
Credit: McHale's Navy
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
My profuse apologies for the up-side-down and otherwise screwy photos, which I hope I've now fixed. I had just a few minutes to post while inspiration had taken hold, and still get out the door to work this morning.

From my heart, I thank all of you for your thoughtful comments, for sharing your similar experiences and for sharing this journey with the muppet and me.

Nita: I'm looking forward to next year, already, too!!!

Crusher: The muppet LOVES your book (we read a story or two most nights before bed) and that picture of her with the book is priceless! Thank you over and over, again.

McHale's Navy: I would love to know about that last bong (I think?) at the bottom of your picture -- that looks like it has some great stories to tell. Thanks for sharing.

BBA

climber
OF
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:45pm PT
I never imagined such a series on this website (or anywhere else, for that matter). I'm still in a state of wonder about your experience. I knew and liked your Dad, and was shocked when I read of his death in Steve Roper's book. Bill Amborn
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
i DO believe he's thinking of you, and dearly loves you...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 23, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
Oh, my, Lilabiene, you ARE a n00b, as Mad Bolter learned that day he tried to take you on an aid pitch at Church Bowl.

I can only suggest you enlarge the photo from McHale's Navy and inspect what you thought was a bong.

You use a hammer to strike the end which has the hole in it, while the much thinner end is inserted into a crack.

We'll talk, OK? No biggie, we've all been where you are in your climbing career. Your enthusiasm transcends your ignorance, so enjoy the state of bliss.

MFME.
Fletcher

Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
Nov 23, 2012 - 07:31pm PT
Wow... wow... wow... beautiful.

Words have failed someone who can't stop talking and writing! :-)

Moved, once again.

Such a beautiful, heartwarming, encouraging story... still going too!

Peace, love and happy birthday to all of you.

Now this whole tale is truly something for which to be grateful.

Giant cosmic hug!
Eric
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 23, 2012 - 07:42pm PT
Does anyone know if he made gold plated pins...!
Speak to Don Lauria, evidently he bought a collection of them from him. DL tells the story on the Dolt thread (one of those threads).

Edit: Mouse From Merced - Don't be to hard on her, there are probably tens of thousands of sport & gym climbers who do not have a clue as to what a pin or bong is (other than for smoking bud) let alone the difference between an angle, lost arrow, knife blade and a bong!

We will make a big wall/trad climber out of her yet!!

edit: LilaBiene - we know you're not a sport or gym climber. i was just saying that there ARE those types out there that call themselves climbers, and they don't know the difference. so no worries!! :)

btw, KNOTT stupid questions! "how else does one learn?" = correct resonse! kudos!!
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2012 - 06:42am PT
So what exactly IS IT, then? It looked to me earlier to have two edges, but it's more likely that was just a shadow. How the heck am I supposed to learn unless I ask (stupid) questions? Sheesh.

Edit: I'm not a sport OR gym climber...I'm just a'learnin', and I prefer to do this outdoors. ;)
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 24, 2012 - 08:25am PT
That would be called a knifeblade. It does have a slightly different head design than the ones usually available today. Dolt's equipment was beautifully finished compared to any others I have seen. Certainly not a dumb question we all have to learn this weird gear somehow plus it's part of the fun of climbing.

Typical current version of a knifeblade piton.



This would be a good example of a Bong Piton. They are rarely used these days due to camming devices that are better suited for most larger cracks. Bongs still have the occasional use as fixed gear or in very soft crumbly rock.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 24, 2012 - 08:57am PT
Hey!

Most people think a bong has nothing to do with rock climbing.

At least Lila was on the right track.
For somebody who only recently learned basic climbing jargon cut her enough slack to make the move!

Besides, lots of things go "bong" if you hit them with a hammer.
BBA

climber
OF
Nov 24, 2012 - 04:03pm PT
That's why they were originally called bong bongs.
jstan

climber
Nov 25, 2012 - 10:41am PT
LilaB:
We really appreciate the interest you and the Muppet have in the rock and in us. Bill's story has long been a source of sadness for us. Hearing of your's and the Muppet's adventures, at long last, begins to make that story whole.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
jstan: I was contemplating this earlier this morning during my swim, albeit from my perspective, so I thank you for giving me the "nudge", so-to-speak.

It's really me that has you and the rest of the climbing community to thank for making ME whole.

Without the love shown over and over in preserving the memories of Bill, be it in stories, eulogies, jokes, photos, equipment, clothing, routes...I never in a million years would have "found" him or the wonderful lot of you (the first group of people with whom I've felt truly comfortable in my own skin, and likewise, haven't felt the need to explain myself to...much, anyway...chuckle).

In having found him, I have been given a key I never imagined existed. This is not simply because I never dared to imagine who my father was in the archetypal sense, but because I made the assumption very early on in life that I was inexplicably...hummmmmm...well, just...off, mostly in the ways that I looked at and took in the world around me. And now I know that I am not an original (in my "offness")...I am a genuine Dolt reproduction. HA! Or a-HA! (Equally appropriate.)

It's ME that has so unbelievably many of you to thank for sharing of yourselves, welcoming me to the campfire, teaching me, passing along tangible and intangible memories...and for not avoiding sometimes sad and painful moments (both mine and yours).

I know I can't replace him, or take away the unthinkable pain he inflicted on so many...including himself.

Perhaps through us, or along with us, though, Bill will find redemption, acceptance and wholeness, and his soul will finally be set free.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Nov 25, 2012 - 06:24pm PT
Oh my....just unbelievable. This is such a moving story.

Susan
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 26, 2012 - 09:32am PT
Audrey, and Muppet - we're delighted to have you as part of our little community. Sure, there are a few oddballs and misfits, but probably not more than 75% or so. Those of us who belong here know that we fit in. Anyone of good heart wanting to join our campfire is always welcome.
jstan

climber
Nov 26, 2012 - 09:36am PT
Sure, there are a few oddballs and misfits, but probably not more than 75% or so. -MH

There Anders goes again. Always looking on the positive side.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
MH: BTW, I'm really enjoying Chris Jones' "Climbing in North America". Thanks for the great recommendation. About the funniest thing I've read in a long time is the quote of Lincoln O'Brien to Robert Underhill on their attempt on Mount Robson: "Robert, if our objective in life is making first ascents, I believe we will make more of them if we avoid making this one."

I really like that the book covers Canada, the West and the East -- never would have known Eastern climbers were as involved as they were in early U.S. climbing, otherwise. Suspect I'll be up nosing around up in NH before too long...now, climbing AND skiing? How close to heaven can you get? But I digress...
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Nov 27, 2012 - 08:19pm PT
What a wonderful thread. Who's going to take Lila to the Dolt Hole and to the top of Dolt Tower?
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 27, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
Other books that you might like are Steve Roper's "Camp 4" and "Ordeal by Piton", and Galen Rowell's "The Vertical World of Yosemite".

We thought that Audrey might try Arrowhead Arete next year, and perhaps Dolt Tower in 2014. Who knows, though - she may progress more quickly.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 07:20pm PT
Aww, shucks. What I need is MORE pressure...that's what my life has been missing! :D Guess I have 10 months to prepare. A little too early to start counting the days, eh?

MH: Have read the first two, and the Rowell book is next. Am I enough of a geek, or what?!
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