Dental Insurance vs. Dental Plan


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Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
Nov 28, 2012 - 06:51am PT
Back in 1995 I had work done at the University of Pacific dental school in San Francisco (as my mom had retired and the onset of Alzheimer's).

The first student was a joker, so I insisted on another student, but they said since the treatments were free, I had no choice, but I stood my ground.

I was appointed to Charles H. (his father was a dentist my mom had worked with), he was first in his class at the time. Excellent, though while free, it's a pain to sit there with a dam on your mouth while the student waits for a professor/lecturer/supervisor dentist who may have at least several other students in line.

Same here at Dublin Dental School (part of Trinity College). Free, but long waits for both appointments and also sitting in the chair waiting for a dentist to come supervise the student's work. I had one root canal (endo) that took two students over two terms to finish (it had four canals and the supervising endodontis never showed up), and it is now bugging me and my dentist thinks I will lose it someday. Bummer.


right here, right now
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2012 - 12:38pm PT
I'm in touch with Dr. Jim Beck's office; spoke with his wife in detail.
They can't see me (are not taking new patients and the distance between would otherwise be a significant hardship for me (that is, beyond a couple of trips and they are not interested in doing just the workup). She's going to ask Jim to give me a reference in the Boulder Denver area.

As you suggested above, yes please read all of my individual posts and you will get a good sense of my history. I don't think there's much more to discuss however. Please e-mail me directly if you see anything out of sorts in what I've said about my condition and treatment history per se. My email is persona "at"

 Thank you both for your professional opinions and attention.
My questions have been well answered. I don't think there's much more to say.

I'd like to talk about your experiences with bruxism along with your general health as it may pertain to that condition, yet all of this Q and A in real-time on the forum is shredding my arms.

(I didn't even get into the chronic hypertrophy of the medial side of my forearms, potentially a case of borderline chronic exertional compartment syndrome, or the way the voice commands required from Dragon NaturallySpeaking exert a sort of repetitive strain on my esophagus, which seems to cross-link with chronic heartburn. In short, my complaints are legion. If you are open to it we should compare notes).
303-258-3455. Not a cell phone, please leave a message and be prepared for phone tag. I may be down in Boulder doing PT for my hips. Call anytime.

Although your debate has been a distraction from the pointed questions in the OP, your position on the matter is sort of the elephant in the room. Thanks.


Darn good job everybody. My arms and my voice need a break.
Let's give it a rest.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 28, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Elephants have big ass teeth!

WIshing you the best outcome and road to healing


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