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GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
John M

climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
I got pretty lucky with running. No major problems. I use to run 5 to 10 miles a day 7 days a week. I ran many long distance runs. In the 25 mile range. I ran in the cheapest hiking boots Hi-Tec made. The ones you could get at costco for 10 dollars. They are basically tennis shoes with a hiking tread. Now you can find them for about 25 to 30 dollars. I ran trails and pavement. I have bad ankles, so the mid high gave me enough ankle support that I didn't injure them. Just to be clear, I did not start out running 7 days a week. I did 3 and 4 days a week at th beginning, which leads into some of my advice.

Dean, I am aware that you didn't really ask for this advice, but I just want to share this.


1. Run more trails then pavement if you can.

2. Start slowly. Very slowly with short distances. Don't go out and run as far as you physically can your first day. If you think you could run 3 miles on your first day, then keep it down to 1 mile. And don't run every day until you have built up the muscles, and tendons. Just Like you had to build up to having strong finger tendons for climbing, you need to build into running. You are probably very fit, but I wouldn't go run 5 miles a day just because you are already fairly fit and you could push yourself to do it. Your body needs time to adjust to the pounding. If you have a stationary bike, then go run a mile, come home and get on the bike to get the miles you need. This will give your body time to adjust.

3. Run on grass if you can. Use the local golf course or one of the local schools, if you have one. I know that you don't probably have that option living in June lake, but this is just general information for other people wanting to start running.

4.This is my own opinion and I have not talked to any experts about it, but I have given this advice to a number of people who never ran regularly before and they seemed to benefit from it. What you do is Vary your speed. It causes you to change your stride and that seems to help avoid repetitive injuries. Don't do full speed sprints until you have been running for awhile, and don't do full speed on pavement. Use slow slow speeds to warm up, then a moderate speed for a minute, then slow again until you regain your breath, and then maybe a slightly faster speed then your last moderate speed, then back to slow slow, and so forth. I definitely do not recommend full speed sprints on pavement.

I never knew about pronation and all that stuff. I guess I got lucky in that respect. I stopped running for other health reasons.

this just in

climber
north fork
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Go to a running shoe store and try some on. It's the same as buying climbing shoes each company is different.
QITNL

climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
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Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
I watch all these folks running on the street in my neighborhood. Keep in mind that the streets are crowned slightly for drainage. They run a couple of miles in one direction on one side of the street, then back the other way on the other side, so every step they take is lopsided the same way.

And they wonder why their SI joint is all out of whack...

I don't know about this idea that we're designed to run fast for long distances. Some of us can, but I prefer to move quickly (not what most people would call running) with occasional flat out sprints thrown in.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
Ugh, pavement pounding.... Masochism is what that is. I've run marathon distance four times on the pavement in my life and that is four times too many. Pavement's made for wheels, man, and you're getting too old to subject your musculoskeletal system to that sh#t. Ride your bike on the pavement, run on more forgiving surfaces.

Find a good knee guy if you must persist.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
some folks are always pushing the limits:

monolith

climber
albany,ca
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
I recommend going to a running store. They are very good at finding a 'support' shoe to make it easy to keep your crappy mechanics.
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
There is a lot of scientific evidence that humans evolved to run. We are perhaps the best distance-runners in the animal kingdom:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/health/27well.html?_r=0

Sitting in front of a computer all day doesn't help though...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
John M, some good tips there, and my thoughts exactly on the trails/grass thing. I will do that until the snow dictates otherwise, then on to the pavement.

I plan on starting slow too.....my goal to be getting to 4/5 miles a day by next spring.....with the occasional 8 to 10 mile run by then too.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
Good luck. If there's a sport more about pointless numbers than climbing, it's running. You'll easily injure yourself over those numbers if you aren't careful. Listen to your body, you aren't anything in the world of running, so don't hurt yourself over nothing.

If your mind says 10 and your body says 2, I'd pick what your body is saying. Too easy to get locked into those training programs that have nothing to do with your health. Trust me.
Friedo

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Nov 21, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
I'm all about MONTRAIL! Great on road and trail!
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
RJ, you sure have a thing with underwear.....ever since I shot that pic of you on the job that day....



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BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 21, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
I dont run pavement, and everyones needs and fits are so different. There are two really good running stores in Reno, they will analyze your foot strike and other variables so you can learn about your own mechanics and physiology. Then you can make a better shoe choice. I imagine its more important with nonforgiving pavement. One store is Eclipse Running, forgot the other one but google knows....Eclipse lets you try em on and gofor a trot around their parking lot in them.
John M

climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 04:55pm PT
my goal to be getting to 4/5 miles a day by next spring

Oh.. you plan to run this winter.. then I would add these. heh heh

Credit: John M

Add the PJs and the Beretta and you should be good to go. :-)
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
I have the treadmill for the gnar winter days. :D

I'll be heading to Eclipse Running in Reno on Monday morning. It's right down the street from my project!

EDIT: No, the Beretta is too heavy....I'll stick with a matching pair of Walther PPK's.....even out the balance.

:D
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 21, 2012 - 05:32pm PT
Nice. Hopefully Eclipse's owner guy will be working that day, otherwise there are some younger folks who work there too, try to find the 40ish guy, blond hair i think, youll know when you see him, obvious marathon type guy. The other running store in Reno is supposed to be better, newer. Havent been to it, but you should have a look for it. They have some foot strike analyzer machine thing. You can run around in the lot in their shoes to try them out too.
Sewellymon

climber
.....in a single wide......
Nov 21, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
Dean- I've had several pairs of Salomans in the past 5 years but switched to the below La Sportiva Wildcat that I like a LOT. I'll be buying a 2nd pair soon. I also now use them for light backpacking..

One word of advice. Whatever you get, get 'em a 1/2 size larger? Seems my feet just grow and grow as I get older and more rotund. Trail running downhill toes get mashed until you have extra room. Ditto long hikes. Feet swell.

Credit: Sewellymon
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 21, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
Boom. Reno Running Co. in the Summit Sierra mall, right off the new freeway. Dunno if youve gone thru there yet, but its awesome not having to drive all the way thru carson. Takes so much less gas.

Go to the new sierra trading post, next to wholefoods. They have way more stuff than they ever had. They have some sportiva shoes too, a couple kinds.

La Sportiva makes better running shoes these days than climbing shoes. Fit is really good for my foot and splits the nearly 3/4 size difference between my feet pretty well. I got some of those trendy mushy sole quantums, shoes great, sole is stupid, my new work shoes, they were lame to run in. $65 at sierra trading post.

Ive been using Saucony Guide Tr3's since they were just TR's, fifth pair. Best fit for my foot anymore. NB, Asics used to both fit well, but havent fit one well in several years. Used adidas for years, but they dont make good shoes anymore. I cant find a brooks trail shoe that fits me well, Cascadias were not it. Love brooks, but their trail shoe lineup doesnt have anything for me now.

Granted I use trail shoes and youre after cushion/road shoes, you will have so damn many options, youll find a good match.
John M

climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 05:43pm PT
The more I think about the winters over there the more I think you should get yourself a groomer and find some dirt roads to groom for skate skiing. Its way easier on your knees and you would be doing a community service. Plus once you get fast its way more fun then running. That or doing some cross country skiing. You will get in shape. There isn't much doubt about that.
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