GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:12am PT
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Trails are a bit white this upcoming season in Mammoth, lol.
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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:17am PT
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If you're trail running at least give Salomons a look. I'm on a second pair of Speedcross's and they're pretty near perfect for me.
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:18am PT
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Go to an actual running store that stocks lots of different shoes. But don't listen to their advice, which is as likely as not to be based on discredited exerscience. Last I read, for instance, the whole "over-pronation" thing---prescribing particular kinds of shoe based on watching your feet twist while running---has not been shown to have any benefit at all.
http://www.runblogger.com/2012/10/do-runners-know-their-arch-height-and.html
Just insist on trying a lot of different shoes and see which feel the most comfortable running (not just walking around the store). Bring the kind of socks you will actually wear running, and remember that your feet swell when running, so err on the side of large.
And do listen to Don Paul's advice: let your body get used to the shoes and to running very gradually, with lots of rest days.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:20am PT
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Fivefingers. Trek sport for slightly rougher terrain (thicker padding also makes these my go to shoe for pavement), Bikila for ultimate frisbee and around the office. My feet end up a little more sore than in a normal pair of shoes, but my knee stopped hurting all together, which is a very easy tradeoff for me. My knee was steadily going downhill in normal running shoes, and completely settling down over the first 4-5 months using the fivefingers (and stayed good for the last 6 months).
Plenty of last years colors can be had for $60-80 a pair. Stock up once you have the sizing and models dialed in.
Also, shoe go is your friend to extend their life. Watch for wear spots and beef those spots up early and often. Thin sensitive soles wear out faster than normal shoes.
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go-B
climber
Hebrews 1:3
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:25am PT
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USE PROMO CODE EMEB2V63 AT CHECKOUT FOR $25.00 OFF
ON YOUR ORDER OF $99 OR MORE AT EASTBAY.COM
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:35am PT
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I don't go barefoot at home...let alone running outside!
I'm not much of a runner in the sense of "pounding pavement." I do enjoy covering terrain quickly, and my shoe of choice is the Salomon XT wings.
I cannot say enough about the value of going barefoot as much as possible. Not necessarily for running but just as a general practice. Your feet will be stronger, your proprioception and balance will benefit and your posture will respond well too. Just don't curse me out the first few times you stub a toe, there is a learning curve...
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adrian korosec
climber
Tucson
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:41am PT
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Don't get fooled into the Five Finger craze or minimalist thing either. Go to a good running store that has a treadmill and maybe even video system so they can analyze your gait. They will then recommend the proper shoe options (stability v cushioning etc). IF you eventually want to go minimalist, you MUST go slow and easy into it. Get a trad shoe first for sure.
This is the best advice.
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sullly
Trad climber
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:41am PT
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I disagree with Murcy. I pronated and got stress fractures (metatarsals) as a result. I ended up always going with a heavier shoe with beefy treads on the sides. Doing the same milage (70+ a week in my 20's) I wasn't injured again. I'd get new shoes every three months when the outer treads wore down.
Several running shop owners here in the Bay Area - Ryan's Santa Clara and Runners' Factory Los Gatos - watch their customer run and recommend the shoe. These men have coached top runners for years and make valid shoe assessments.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:45am PT
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Here's one theory of why humans are natural runners - we evolved from pack hunters like jackals. He explains the deal with running shoes at the end.
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go-B
climber
Hebrews 1:3
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:48am PT
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10b4me
Boulder climber
member since 2002
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Nov 21, 2012 - 09:49am PT
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Not a runner anymore, and I won't recommend a specific shoe, but when I ran, I preferred the Asics brand.
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Cragman
Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 09:51am PT
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10b4me, I am hearing great things about Asics.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 21, 2012 - 10:05am PT
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Before weighin in on the barefoot/shoe debate, I'd second what sullly said. You need to figure out what kind of runner you are--over pronator/under pronator, heel/midfoot striker, etc.--and take it from there. Then, like climbing shoes, it comes down to fit. I like Asics and Brooks for my feet, but then I tried a pair of Adidas trail shoes and really like those. New Balance makes greats shoes but feel like shoe boxes on my feet. You gotta try them out.
Barefoot running is not BS. Humans gained an evolutionary advantage by being long distance runners and being able to run great distances stalking prey and chasing wounded prey. All of this was done barefoot. The Taramuhara indians of Copper Canyon run 50-100 miles in a pair of huaraches. They don't get shin splints, runner's knee or any of those other problems that runners do who wear well cushioned shoes.
Does that mean you have to run barefoot or get injured? No. Lots of folks put in lots of miles and have no problems. However, others aren't so lucky. Hopefully you're the former.
I did develop runner's knee (though not from running) and have been able to run again mostly by imitating barefoot running--short strides, striking mid-foot or on the balls of my feet, etc. Totally different than how I used to run--long strides, heel striking, etc. I run alot slower that way, but I can get out and have fun without the pain.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 21, 2012 - 10:06am PT
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Something in a nice plaid, perhaps? To match your PJs.
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Cragman
Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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Those aren't mine, Anders....I don't know where those are now!
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Cragman
Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 10:23am PT
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zBrown...I'm more like a Navy slug.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 21, 2012 - 10:26am PT
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Dean...Buy something other than a racing flat..something that won't let a rock bruise the bottom of your foot...Maybe start out with the asics trail runner...? If you run on pavement , you gotta get a speedo...RJ
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 21, 2012 - 10:31am PT
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On second thought , you might want a racing flat in case another bear gets in your house...? RJ
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Dave Kos
Trad climber
Temecula
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Nov 21, 2012 - 10:43am PT
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US Army Airborne used to do their runs in boots way BITD...but they eventually switched to running shoes because too many soldiers were injuring their knees.
Sometimes smart is better than tough.
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