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Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
If you're trail running at least give Salomons a look. I'm on a second pair of Speedcross's and they're pretty near perfect for me.

Gym climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
Go to an actual running store that stocks lots of different shoes. But don't listen to their advice, which is as likely as not to be based on discredited exerscience. Last I read, for instance, the whole "over-pronation" thing---prescribing particular kinds of shoe based on watching your feet twist while running---has not been shown to have any benefit at all.

Just insist on trying a lot of different shoes and see which feel the most comfortable running (not just walking around the store). Bring the kind of socks you will actually wear running, and remember that your feet swell when running, so err on the side of large.

And do listen to Don Paul's advice: let your body get used to the shoes and to running very gradually, with lots of rest days.

Big Wall climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:20pm PT
Fivefingers. Trek sport for slightly rougher terrain (thicker padding also makes these my go to shoe for pavement), Bikila for ultimate frisbee and around the office. My feet end up a little more sore than in a normal pair of shoes, but my knee stopped hurting all together, which is a very easy tradeoff for me. My knee was steadily going downhill in normal running shoes, and completely settling down over the first 4-5 months using the fivefingers (and stayed good for the last 6 months).

Plenty of last years colors can be had for $60-80 a pair. Stock up once you have the sizing and models dialed in.

Also, shoe go is your friend to extend their life. Watch for wear spots and beef those spots up early and often. Thin sensitive soles wear out faster than normal shoes.

Hebrews 1:3
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:25pm PT



Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
I don't go barefoot at home...let alone running outside!

I'm not much of a runner in the sense of "pounding pavement." I do enjoy covering terrain quickly, and my shoe of choice is the Salomon XT wings.

I cannot say enough about the value of going barefoot as much as possible. Not necessarily for running but just as a general practice. Your feet will be stronger, your proprioception and balance will benefit and your posture will respond well too. Just don't curse me out the first few times you stub a toe, there is a learning curve...
adrian korosec

Nov 21, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Don't get fooled into the Five Finger craze or minimalist thing either. Go to a good running store that has a treadmill and maybe even video system so they can analyze your gait. They will then recommend the proper shoe options (stability v cushioning etc). IF you eventually want to go minimalist, you MUST go slow and easy into it. Get a trad shoe first for sure.

This is the best advice.

Trad climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
I disagree with Murcy. I pronated and got stress fractures (metatarsals) as a result. I ended up always going with a heavier shoe with beefy treads on the sides. Doing the same milage (70+ a week in my 20's) I wasn't injured again. I'd get new shoes every three months when the outer treads wore down.

Several running shop owners here in the Bay Area - Ryan's Santa Clara and Runners' Factory Los Gatos - watch their customer run and recommend the shoe. These men have coached top runners for years and make valid shoe assessments.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
Here's one theory of why humans are natural runners - we evolved from pack hunters like jackals. He explains the deal with running shoes at the end.

Hebrews 1:3
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
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Boulder climber
member since 2002
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
Not a runner anymore, and I won't recommend a specific shoe, but when I ran, I preferred the Asics brand.

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
10b4me, I am hearing great things about Asics.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
Before weighin in on the barefoot/shoe debate, I'd second what sullly said. You need to figure out what kind of runner you are--over pronator/under pronator, heel/midfoot striker, etc.--and take it from there. Then, like climbing shoes, it comes down to fit. I like Asics and Brooks for my feet, but then I tried a pair of Adidas trail shoes and really like those. New Balance makes greats shoes but feel like shoe boxes on my feet. You gotta try them out.

Barefoot running is not BS. Humans gained an evolutionary advantage by being long distance runners and being able to run great distances stalking prey and chasing wounded prey. All of this was done barefoot. The Taramuhara indians of Copper Canyon run 50-100 miles in a pair of huaraches. They don't get shin splints, runner's knee or any of those other problems that runners do who wear well cushioned shoes.

Does that mean you have to run barefoot or get injured? No. Lots of folks put in lots of miles and have no problems. However, others aren't so lucky. Hopefully you're the former.

I did develop runner's knee (though not from running) and have been able to run again mostly by imitating barefoot running--short strides, striking mid-foot or on the balls of my feet, etc. Totally different than how I used to run--long strides, heel striking, etc. I run alot slower that way, but I can get out and have fun without the pain.
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:06pm PT
Something in a nice plaid, perhaps? To match your PJs.
Credit: Mighty Hiker

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
Those aren't mine, Anders....I don't know where those are now!

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
Navy Seals train in boots. Way back (when they were called the UDT (underwater demolition team) they used to run from Imperial Beach to Coronado and back in boots that looked like they weighed ten pounds. I believe they switched to fins when actually in the water.


Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
zBrown...I'm more like a Navy slug.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
Dean...Buy something other than a racing flat..something that won't let a rock bruise the bottom of your foot...Maybe start out with the asics trail runner...? If you run on pavement , you gotta get a speedo...RJ

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
On second thought , you might want a racing flat in case another bear gets in your house...? RJ

Social climber
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
John M

Nov 21, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
I got pretty lucky with running. No major problems. I use to run 5 to 10 miles a day 7 days a week. I ran many long distance runs. In the 25 mile range. I ran in the cheapest hiking boots Hi-Tec made. The ones you could get at costco for 10 dollars. They are basically tennis shoes with a hiking tread. Now you can find them for about 25 to 30 dollars. I ran trails and pavement. I have bad ankles, so the mid high gave me enough ankle support that I didn't injure them. Just to be clear, I did not start out running 7 days a week. I did 3 and 4 days a week at th beginning, which leads into some of my advice.

Dean, I am aware that you didn't really ask for this advice, but I just want to share this.

1. Run more trails then pavement if you can.

2. Start slowly. Very slowly with short distances. Don't go out and run as far as you physically can your first day. If you think you could run 3 miles on your first day, then keep it down to 1 mile. And don't run every day until you have built up the muscles, and tendons. Just Like you had to build up to having strong finger tendons for climbing, you need to build into running. You are probably very fit, but I wouldn't go run 5 miles a day just because you are already fairly fit and you could push yourself to do it. Your body needs time to adjust to the pounding. If you have a stationary bike, then go run a mile, come home and get on the bike to get the miles you need. This will give your body time to adjust.

3. Run on grass if you can. Use the local golf course or one of the local schools, if you have one. I know that you don't probably have that option living in June lake, but this is just general information for other people wanting to start running.

4.This is my own opinion and I have not talked to any experts about it, but I have given this advice to a number of people who never ran regularly before and they seemed to benefit from it. What you do is Vary your speed. It causes you to change your stride and that seems to help avoid repetitive injuries. Don't do full speed sprints until you have been running for awhile, and don't do full speed on pavement. Use slow slow speeds to warm up, then a moderate speed for a minute, then slow again until you regain your breath, and then maybe a slightly faster speed then your last moderate speed, then back to slow slow, and so forth. I definitely do not recommend full speed sprints on pavement.

I never knew about pronation and all that stuff. I guess I got lucky in that respect. I stopped running for other health reasons.

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