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Prod

Trad climber
Nov 22, 2012 - 06:57am PT
A recent attempt for the speed record was thwarted in grapevine. He hiked out at phantom ranch.

http://www.canoekayak.com/whitewater-kayak/speed-run-grand-canyon-record-attempt/

In 83 the run in Crystal was so for right that you were stroking the tops of tamarisk trees.

Prod.
mctwisted

Trad climber
e.p.
Nov 22, 2012 - 07:35am PT
mikey!
mikey!
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climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 22, 2012 - 07:36am PT
Interesting thread. Looked into the 1983 event and what strikes me is that even with some improvements to the spillways that damn could fail. Infact it seems that it is a time bomb that will fail.

If it fails the Hoover could be overtopped. Dunno if that would cause the Hoover to fail though.

hoipolloi

climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:02am PT
I've got friends boating it right now. Interesting...
Prod

Trad climber
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:38am PT
McTwisted, is that you in an open boat?

Here I am in 04 in Hermit, 18K CFS

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5th hole.....

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Prod.

mctwisted

Trad climber
e.p.
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:44am PT
nice prod. this is my friend mikey. its pretty wild you guys doing this kinda thing in an open boat. good stuff!
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i did take his boat down a class 3 down there, and it tripped me out. had to jump back in my kayak
Prod

Trad climber
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:53am PT
McTwist.

i did take his boat down a class 3 down there, and it tripped me out. had to jump back in my kayak

I feel the same way about Kayaks.

I have a pretty solid roll in my open boat, but I didn't get a chance in Hermit. When I hit hole 5 it broke and yanked me out of my boat. I'm in there pretty tight, so much so that it is somewhat hard to bail. So I was a little surprised to be swimming next to my boat. I also made a bilge pump that runs on a dewalt 12v battery. That makes all the difference in the world. I mounted it under my saddle.

Cheers,

Prod.
mctwisted

Trad climber
e.p.
Nov 22, 2012 - 09:06am PT
prod. i tried to learn to roll miky's boat in some flatwater but couldnt send, which supprised me since i could hand roll on both sides with my kayak.
then i went on down river for some flat section for a couple miles to check it out. i should have gotten out of his boat at lunch but instead was into it, we come around the corner and we could here the thunder of the oncoming rapid, all 16 of my party was looking at me, so i decided to step up and give it a go, went through sideways and backwards full of water. thought my heart was going to bust out of my chest. totally out of control bracing. but managed to stay upright, as my kayak buddies shouted yells of support from the eddy. that was about the last time i was in a canoe, you guys are badass. watched bill russell go down the green in one, pretty awesome
onyourleft

climber
Smog Angeles
Nov 22, 2012 - 09:11am PT
Today's update on Harlan Taney's attempt to beat the '83 speed record found on the GCPBA website:

Harlan Taney's speed run was on track to easily beat the Dory speed
run done in 1983. There was a huge support system, set up for him.
But Grapevine rapid ultimately got him. He ran into the wall in lower
Grapevine and tried to roll up 5 different times. The spray skirt on
his 18' long fiberglass kayak popped off accidently and he had to
swim. It took him awhile to pull it all back together, but by 83 mile
he was regrouped. He did injure his elbow, but it is not broken. At
Phantom he made the hard decision to finish the trip and hike out.
He carried his kayak and all of his gear up the South Kaibab trip
where he met friends and family, yesterday afternoon. The hike out
alone, is a huge task.
He'll be back again to try it in the future. An amazing feat to say
the least.
onyourleft

climber
Smog Angeles
Nov 22, 2012 - 10:08am PT
Interesting thread. Looked into the 1983 event and what strikes me is that even with some improvements to the spillways that damn could fail. In fact, it seems that it is a time bomb that will fail.

If it fails then Hoover could be overtopped. Dunno if that would cause the Hoover to fail though.

Yes, the speculation in '83 was that if Glen Canyon Dam failed, it would likely take out Hoover and Parker and scrub the channel clear to the Gulf of California. Many, Ed Abbey especially, were waiting with joyful anticipation of such a catastrophe. Alas, it was not to pass. The plywood held...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 22, 2012 - 10:16am PT
you don't need any people around for dams on the Colorado and their eventual catastrophic failure. It's happened more than a dozen times.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC21407/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080205100014.htm
Prod

Trad climber
Nov 22, 2012 - 12:10pm PT
Here is a 36' motor rig flipping in the main hole in Crystal.

Credit: Prod

Awesome slide show of 1983 in 2 parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpo0pY3bHFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Gmtlq3B1k&feature=relmfu

I miss that place.

Prod.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 22, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
nice posts prod and mctwisted,i am w/you dan ,have tried some c/4 canoeing,and some friends that are totally in to it,as they say ,"half the paddle ,twice the man".....ill take plastic please.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 22, 2012 - 04:56pm PT
I Agree with Ron. Too little, too late.
mctwisted

Trad climber
e.p.
Nov 22, 2012 - 05:26pm PT
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we flipped the gearboat twice
we flipped the gearboat twice
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this is my buddy tom missing his line on lava, digging deep with the o...
this is my buddy tom missing his line on lava, digging deep with the oars he launched out of the hole, lucky guy
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i gotta get back down there! three trips down the river and two hikes down wasnt enough
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Nov 22, 2012 - 05:32pm PT
awesome pics,mc
Prod

Trad climber
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:49am PT
Great pics McTwist.

Prod.
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Nov 27, 2012 - 12:01am PT
Here's a cool video of Hermit at high water--I think one of the first trips down after the new "Hermit's Sixth Wave" appeared, which was almost as fierce as the Fifth Wave. I'm the second kayaker going through Hermit's Fifth Wave, getting submerged and surfed a bit in the wave (made it though!).
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1311526354069&set=vb.1407948151&type=3&theater
(from Guides Training Trip 2005)
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Nov 27, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
Whoa, Prod,
I remember seeing the shots of that baloney boat getting folded and flipped
in Crystal. If I recall correctly, there were one or two fatalities.
I think one of them was a heart attack.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Nov 27, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
Didn't they do this "a few" years ago? I seem to recall 100K CFS bubbles.
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