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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Was Tejas ever really a part of the USA? I remember as a young 'un driving
by Billy Sol Estes' place and marveling at his front yard - it was completely
asphalted and painted a lovely Lawn Green! LOL!
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
Sorry for the thread drift, but since Ron posited this in support of or at least to explain what goes on in the mind of a Texan:
Its an issue of the fed govt obtaining powers that they were never meant to have. Powers that were used by such countries as NAZI Germany, N Korea, even Russia.
Such as?

BTW, if you're talking about the Patriot Act, I think everyone agrees it overreaches, though I don't see any Red Staters concerned when its directed toward minorities and Muslims.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 19, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
I'd rather be bastard than Texas

But don't let em leave...sell em to Mexico

;-)
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Nov 19, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
See Ya!

see ya Vic...
see ya Vic...
Credit: elioot gullible
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov 19, 2012 - 02:58pm PT
Despite the War of Northern Aggression, in that I am a Texan myself I feel it is my duty to line up every other Texan that signed that petition and march them along I-10 to pick up trash from San Antonio to El Paso.

"Gentlemen, do not f*#k with the Union."

Abe Lincoln
J.Haze

Sport climber
Ohio
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
But don't let em leave...sell em to Mexico

Better yet wait until Mexico buy's Hostess and then trade Texas for the Twinkie back!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:15pm PT


*Sigh* Yet another excuse for Ron to hate on the government.

Bro, this is the same government that has ruled and protected and provided for you and yours, for your whole life. George and Thomas and Benjamin might have envisioned something a little different. But, they couldn't see 230 years into the future.

Your cuz Davey C. certainly lived under a different government. It has to change and evolve out of necessity.

Stop hating the government and live in the present, or join up with Texas as they hit the bricks.
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
Are these secessionists the REAL AMERICANS/TRUE PATRIOTS that I keep hearing about?

Screw the treasonous BASTARDS. ;-)

The new conservative mantra?
I pledge allegiance to the Disgruntled States of Teabagistan......
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
Ron, simply referring me to a google search is not an explanation of your claim, particularly when it is as overblown as the one you make.

Nevertheless, I did google NDAA 2013, which mostly provided hits to sites complaining about the authority to have indefinite detentions, which has been an ongoing issue in connection with the so-called war on terror. I think that is a problem. However, I don't recall that being a concern of your's when Bush implemented those powers.

Any other examples, without punting?
locker

Social climber
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:27pm PT


"Texas wants to leave the United States of America"...

My honest feelings on the subject...





SO WHAT!!!...

Fuk Texas!!!...

stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:38pm PT
Also, what's wrong with being a bastard, eh?

The Lord sure must love bastards because he made so many of them.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
Actually there was more than one war of northern aggression.


But an over-powerful federal government is now a fait accompli.

Bottom line; we can't afford to lose any state where you can get away with shooting a lawyer in the face.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Ron I see no prudence whatsoever in these petitions at this time.

Yes our government is guilty of enacting laws that are evil. However they have not acted on these laws as the government of Britain did a few centuries ago.

Our government is flawed in some severe areas, such as the influence of special interests and their Billions of dollars yet we still retain certain critical rights which if exercised can fix the problem without revolution.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
IT IS NOT PRUDENT TO HAVE A REVOLUTION

Especially if it will not be televised! - Gil Scott-Heron
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
How full?

like 1% or like 20%?

is there a clear relation to toad licking and porn addiction?

My personal experience suggests not.

Your screen name suggests possible personal experience.. please elaborate
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:03pm PT
It's all the result of Nixon's Southern Strategy in 1972 when the "solid South" changed from being solid (if Right Wing) Democrat to Republican, which contributed immensely to Nixon's land slide re-election. Naturally, the segregationist, military South hated the anti-war and civil rights movements of the 1960s and figured the Republicans would back the status quo more than the Democrats who had enacted Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights Act in 1964. That's the same moment the "angry white male" emerged to make his presence felt on the national political scene and paved the way from the extremely reactionary Reagan first Presidency. Of course, standing behind the whole process was the Civil War, Reconstruction and the enactment of Jim Crow laws. Maybe Abe Lincoln and his generals should have just let the South leave the Union in 1861? Would have eliminated a lot of subsequent social problems. The Southern States might have actually asked to come back into the Union when the institution of slavery evaporated due to its economic inefficiency. Can't re-write history and 500,000 casualties between 1861 and 1865. And the USA is supposed to be a "special place" without any history? Ha! Ha! Ha!
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:10pm PT
When the govt stockpiles millions of rounds of hollow point ammo and builds detention centers that set empty, THEN come up with a law like the NDAA 2013, i have to start wondering wtf is going on here.
I haven't seen any evidence of either claim. One, our most notorious detention center, Gitmo, is not empty, though I don't see you evince any concerns for all the brown Muslim faces there. Two, even if your claim about hollow points is true, so what? Your right to bear arms does not guarantee you a right to a particularly vicious form of ammo.

Sorry, the sky is not falling.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
Btw, thanks, survival, for calling me a sweetheart. :-)


Awwww, damn straight. I've never seen you as any other.


BTW Ron, none of us want to see our individual liberties infringed on. It's somehow a balance between everyone mooing up to the trough and everyone waving their own handgun around in anarchy.
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANYONE ELSE AGREE?????????????

SPEAK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 19, 2012 - 04:49pm PT
FUK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY WHICH PART DO YOU WANT ME TO REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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