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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Nov 19, 2012 - 07:02am PT
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Please, let Texas leave. Give all those who want to stay US citizens 12 months to renounce Texas and cross the border.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 19, 2012 - 09:04am PT
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It's part of being Texan. They have to pretend like they want out every few years.....
But 100,000 isn't a big enough piece of their 25,700,000 to take it too seriously.
What would they call themselves? The Individual States of Texas?
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Nov 19, 2012 - 09:04am PT
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My take on it is revoke the citizenship anyone's who signs the petition and then boot them out of the country.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 19, 2012 - 09:53am PT
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We need Texas because they are one of the positive net taxpaying state. The nation has to support the negative net states, most of which are red states, Alaska is prominent on the negative list
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Nov 19, 2012 - 09:55am PT
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Well, they've done it before. :)
Also, it's not that Texas wants to leave. Even Gov Perry says he's against it (now, recall before he seemed to indicate he'd be okay with it). Some citizens started a petition and they got enough signatures that it requires a response by the govt.
Many other states have the same thing going on - citizens starting petitions. That includes the Red states, but also some fools in Colorado and other places.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 19, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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I heard Texas is the only red state that pays more fed tax than it receives.
A measly $1.06 for $1 returned. Let em go. They cost the us a lot more than they are worth. They give us republican lawmakers. 23/ 32 congressmen and both senators. 38 presidential electoral vote.
I have also heard that they are the only state with the right to secede.
Hasta la vista baby.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 19, 2012 - 10:26am PT
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Crimper, the petition thing is not a goverment function, it is a Whitehouse project, if a petition gets 25k signatures then the president will respond to it.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
member since 2002
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Nov 19, 2012 - 10:45am PT
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Good riddance, but maybe we can work out a deal to keep Austin
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Nov 19, 2012 - 10:46am PT
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I signed the Texas petition. I hope they and the rest of the confederacy don't let the door hit them on the way out. Let's see how they like paying for their own goddamm stop signs.
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John M
climber
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:26am PT
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And WHO wants a law like the NDAA 21013 shoved on em?? Certainly no one that enjoys freedom,, freedom of speech , internet forums and the like.
I don't like what that says either, but if Red states think that they would be getting more freedom, then they probably need to do a reality check. Just like they needed a reality check when Obama won even though every last one of their polls said Mitt would win and many of them said by a land slide. They even said Mitt would win the popular vote and he didn't do that either. So their heads are basically up their asses. The Bush government pushed through one of the most restrictive new sets of laws and government entities in many years, the Patriot act. Gave it a nice pretty name though. I feel like I'm being disloyal if I'm against the "PATRIOT ACT".
So if they think that their Republican leaders are for freedom, then they got a surprise waiting for them. Their Republican leaders are for giving the leadership the freedom to do whatever it wants. Not for the populace to have freedom.
Lolli, I'm certain that you are aware, but that original letter was written as a joke to counter all the Red states saying how terrible blue states were. Red or Blue, I hope we don't really go down this path.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:32am PT
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Cousins squabbling over panty knots.
Same as it ever was...........
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:38am PT
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I say let Texas secede on a trial basis and join the european union..Then the EU can grab that weasly ass Bush and try him for war crimes and letting 911 go down on his watch...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 19, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
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a swede calling texans bastards?
Why not? The rest of us do!
C'mon Ron, she's a sweetheart, as were your relatives I'm sure. I've got relatives from Texas too.
Don't be thin skinned.
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Nov 19, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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I like that a state level dissatisfaction is being finally talked about. After all the laughter..
then there are the people who signed who really think it can happen. Fine with me. Please surreneder your US passport and apply for one from your newly founded State. Unfortunately, I doubt the US will be able (or particularly interested) to provide military support in the event that the rest of Mexico decides to cross on over. You will have no FCC, infrastructure support, postal service. Good luck defending your borders Texas!
edit: and you all better pray when a natural disaster hits your coast that magically it doesn't do any damage.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 19, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
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Was Tejas ever really a part of the USA? I remember as a young 'un driving
by Billy Sol Estes' place and marveling at his front yard - it was completely
asphalted and painted a lovely Lawn Green! LOL!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 19, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
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Sorry for the thread drift, but since Ron posited this in support of or at least to explain what goes on in the mind of a Texan:
Its an issue of the fed govt obtaining powers that they were never meant to have. Powers that were used by such countries as NAZI Germany, N Korea, even Russia. Such as?
BTW, if you're talking about the Patriot Act, I think everyone agrees it overreaches, though I don't see any Red Staters concerned when its directed toward minorities and Muslims.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 19, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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I'd rather be bastard than Texas
But don't let em leave...sell em to Mexico
;-)
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