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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Yes every year. It's your life you could be risking. How many of you people against the shot actually have any medical experience relevant to the subject.
C.A.T., R.N., and B.S.N..
Flame away.....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I love SuperTopo cause I always know I can rely on information supplied by
people waay smarter than those stoopid and evil epidemiologists all over
the world. Can you imagine spending your entire life working at such a
useless and downright nefarious job?
Flu season hits U.S. early and hard
By Michael Muskal
December 3, 2012, 1:58 p.m.
The flu season has gotten off to its quickest start in nearly a decade, a sign that it could be a bad year for the illness, officials said on Monday.
Dr. Thomas Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, urged people to get a flu shot to minimize the impact of the deadly disease’s spread. Speaking to publicize National Influenza Vaccination Week, Frieden said a flu shot was the best tool available to stop the spread of the disease, along with covering your mouth when coughing and washing your hands.
“This is the earliest regular flu season we’ve seen in nearly a decade,” Frieden said in a conference call with reporters. “That suggests this could be a bad flu year.”
The flu is caused by different strains and part of the test for scientists is trying to mix a vaccine that includes the strains that are most likely to be dominant in any given season. The current vaccine, which has been prepared in advance, seems well-matched for the strains that now working their way through the population, Frieden said.
Based on early testing, Frieden said that the number of suspected flu cases has jumped in five Southern states: Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas. The dominant flu type is the same as the one associated with the flu season of 2003-2004, when the outbreak was bad, he said.
The CDC recommends a yearly flu vaccine for everyone 6 months of age and older. It usually takes about two weeks for the body's immune response to fully kick in.
Especially at risk are very young children, particularly those younger than 2, and people older than 65. People with chronic conditions such as asthma and heart disease are also at risk.
With the holiday season in mind, Frieden urged people be careful.
“Spread good cheer and give presents,” he said. But “don’t share infections and spread the flu.”
LA Times - Early Flu Season
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Immunizations are the most significant innovation in history.
together with anti-biotics...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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1. Clean water.
2. Sewage and garbage disposal.
3. Immunizations.
4. Sound basic health care and nutrition for pregnant women, infants, and small children.
5. Nutrition.
6. Basic health and dental care.
Together, they account for most increases in life expectancy and quality of health over the last two centuries. High tech modern medicine has contributed relatively little. (I bet Ken M can add to this.)
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roadman
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
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High tech modern medicine has contributed relatively little
Unless it was your life it saved! Or your kids! 6 month waits for ACL surgery can have a dramatic impact ones QL.
Point taken. Plumbers are the most important people in the world.
3 rules of plumbing
1)don't lick your fingers
2)sh*t rolls down hill
3)pay day is on Friday
Good luck getting a flu shot in Canada....They ration that shi0t.
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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Holy Sh#t locker just agreed with me?
My life has come full circle now!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Flu shots in B.C., at least, are free for anyone who's at higher risk, e.g. seniors, health care and essential services workers, children, those who are sick or have compromised immune systems, those in hospitals. Those between 16 and 65, in good health, and without any pretext may have to pay, but even then the shots are easily available. You can even get them at the supermarket drug department.
And, as someone who is alive due to high tech medicine, I agree that it is of benefit. Just that in terms of public health, less important than some might think.
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Maybe if you are at high risk, then yes, take it. I might have had the flu a few times as a kid but I am otherwise rarely sick. Maybe some sniffles twice a year. Therefore I am not going to be vaccinated.
I know some employees who work for a hospital. They never work directly with patients or even visitors yet they are forced to get the flu shot. Now they get a mild dose of the flu every year. If it ain't broke.....
I do however still bear the scars of TB and smallpox vaccines I received as a child in Ireland.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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I generally get it every year. Didn't about 8 years ago, got the flu, and really thought I was going to die. I have been in awe ever since of elderly folks who survive it (I know many do not).
I take public transportation to work in a university. I cross paths with germs on buses (those poles every one grabs -ick [well except those who hang on with their butt cheeks - what's up with that???]), then mingle with germs on faculty of all ages, and germs on students, many of whom have little germ factories in their lives. And since we rotate classrooms all day, I get to be in classrooms used by countless other germ factories. Ew.
No way I'm going out into the world without the shot.
I have not been teaching this semester and this thread cues me that I've not gotten the shot this year! Egads - I'm off to get it TOMORROW.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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I used to get the flu- pretty much every other year.. On three occasions.. i've had the flu so bad- thought i was going to die.....no thanks...no more...
I got my shot yesterday, which is about three weeks later than usual.....crossing my fingers and extra hand washing for the next two weeks...
Btw, i just got Timid to go get a flu shot .. he's there right now..
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oh, Jebus, you're a sheeple too? ;-)
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roadman
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 01:31am PT
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Those between 16 and 65, in good health, and without any pretext may have to pay, but even then the shots are easily available.
Dude, cheeping out is the name of the game up here. That policy goes against science. It's all to save a buck. Nevermind, no one has a family doc here anyway. BECAUSE THERE ARN"T ENOUGH DOCTORS! So much illness is unreported and miss diagnosed...It's a nice way for the gov. to hide the reality of how shiity heath care is here.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dumb question, but if chemtrails, vaccines, etc. are pieces of a big plot by the Illuminati/NWO to depopulate the world why are life expectancies and the world population still increasing?
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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Just wash your hands and make a point not to touch your face.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Not every year, only because I couldn't be bothered, but if I was less healthy, absolutely. My kids get it every year, my youngest caught flu before he was old enough to be vaccinated, I never want to go through that again.
I've only had "real" flu once, it's a whole other story to that bad cold most people think is flu.
TE
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roadman
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
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I've only had "real" flu once, it's a whole other story to that bad cold most people think is flu.
So true! Easy to understand how people are fearful of it because we can all get spooked by the idea of tinkering with things too much, but really once you've had a true case of the flu (so long as you don't have egg allergies or GBS in your fam) it's a no brainer to get the shot every year or at least often.
Funny how we don't understand till we get smacked down by a tiny virus! Before I got it, I though I was healthy and that I'd build my immune system for toughing it out...boy that was dumb..
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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I never used to until I got myself a copy of the real flu one year.
I think most people, and me up until that viral assault, have not had a "REAL" flu virus.
I was in the best shape of my life, ice climbing in Ouray that year when the hammer of God struck my partner and myself.
There were two nights in particular I really thought that I might die by drowning in my own fluids. The body aches were so bad, I could have sworn I was in some major motorcycle accident, every day.
One week literally stuck in bed.
Two weeks until I returned home.
I can now easily understand how the real flu kills people.
A solid month until I felt even vaguely "right" again.
So yeah, I get the vaccine now. It might not work, but I'll take that chance.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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you GOTTA be a troll if you're saying that OJ can prevent yersinia pestis infection (the bacteria that causes the "bubonic plague").
We have tularemia here in California, it's pretty common, and produces a disease very similar to the bubonic plague. I propose an experiment whereby you drink nothing but OJ while bivying naked in the Owens valley for a few nights, until you get bit by a mouse or two. You can have access to ALL the OJ you want...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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No he's just 23....
I believed stuff like that at 23 too...
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