I have always been a fan of Yosemite climbing history
In 2006 after our first pretty good year, I contributed $2000 dollars to Kens YCA.
My brother and I were in Yosemite and we got to meet Ken and check out some of the many relics, Salathe's rope and his meger rack of pins. Old biners and spools of rope from the nose FA. A Harding Bat Tent, it kinda smelled, and I actually got to hold one of the stoveleg pitons.
Since then I have contributed what I can. The company I am partners in has made some contributions to the YCA too.
Why give it to the goverment when you can give it to the orginazation of your choice?
I voted for Obama, but like Nature and most every one else,, I have no doubt that Jeff's contributions are real.
I'm not taking sides here, probably would make little or no difference, but, I do have this to say ...
Not saying that anyone necessarily does or doesn't deserve forgiveness, because that is besides the matter. But it is obvious there are some bitter feelings being held for whatever reason[s]. And, forgiveness is a very powerful thing, because it has healing powers. It heals not only the one being offered forgiveness, it also heals the one offering forgiveness. Something worth considering anyway!
edit: "heals" - transforms/changes a person for the better.
Studly - "I would rope up with Locker to, but ... Ive seen that blue buttplug pop up in to many places..." -- LOL!!
I have to say I did not agree with Fatrads politcal bias, extremism and his "evil" moniker. However, I didn't think he should have been banned as he just seemed to like to stir up conflict, and in all other aspects seemed like a good guy. Following thru on his bet just goes to show he is a Man of his word. My hat is off to you Fatrad. I would rope up with you anytime. I'd rope up with Locker to, but I would tape a board over my ass. Ive seen that blue buttplug pop up in to many places...
I appreciate fatty's donations that will positively influence many climbers for years to come.
This will make me unpopular, but I can't simply sweep under the rug the gigabytes of negative energy he purposefully posted here because of this financial contribution. I'm not that cheap.
My thoughts too.
got a question for Werner. Seems to me that Norton does the same thing that Jeff does, rides people until they lose their mind. So why aren't you also pissed at Jeff? What am I missing? If its cool for Jeff to act like a douche, then why can't Norton?
I have lost my closest brother, Mac, one of the world's finest winemakers by peer recognition, one of my favorite cousins (professor emerita LA State) just lost her husband, an excellent man, and I just lost a favorite cousin today to cancer.
And some of you are bitchin' about Jeff Elfont, a man who never knew me outside of the Taco Stand (until we met), but yet offered to help me. Yeah, his banter and bullshit and his politics were not to my liking, but maybe Fattrad has a heart that some of you do not see.
And I would just as soon as see on the Taco Stand posts from Jeff, LEB, Norton, Wes, etc etc than effing butt plugs, misogynist photos, and militaristic crap that some people post.