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steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Ben,

I completely agree with your sentiments. I have a hard time giving a blanket thank you to all veterans. Any time period perhaps after Korea is kind of the cut-off point for me. Most of the wars after Korea were pretty hard to justify, IMHO.

Did I ever show you my scar from Vietnam, on that trip into the Wind Rivers?

Ha, Ha.

Steve

nopantsben

climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
no - with all the mosquitos exposing skin wasn't possible, remember? ;)
but you told the story. what a rough time that must have been...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
I disagree Ben. There aren't any good wars. Some are more righteous causes than others to be sure.

Some folks feel the need to serve in the military, regardless of the era, or the leadership. I have a long history of military service in my family. I felt the need to honor my family, even though I was a long haired hippy freak, and I joined under Reagan!!(The duality of man.)
Many modern wars have been less than glorious in their premise and conduct. That doesn't mean I withhold my thanks to those veterans.
As I said, there are no "good" wars....

Credit: survival
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
I think criticizing The American Machine that created Veterans Day, on veterans day is akin to criticizing someone for praying while they are praying.

Sorry, it seems boorish to me. I don't mean to offend the critics of the ideals involved, seriously. But can't yall take that up in some other thread?

For some of us, the political part, the machine part, the American Religion paert - all pale before the individual sacrifice and commitment of our fellow citizen / soldiers.

I would not want any of my vet acquaintances and friends to ever think I would lump them in with the machine to which we all must answer.

Salute, vets.

DMT
nopantsben

climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
Some folks feel the need to serve in the military, regardless of the era, or the leadership

i realise that, but don't understand why that is the case. that's what i meant.
what's positive about going to war or being part of the army just for it's own sake?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
i realise that, but don't understand why that is the case.

Too many reasons for different people to list them all.

For me? I wanted my WWII Dad and Uncles to be proud of me.
I needed a job, some direction, some training, some benefits.
I wanted to do something exciting besides climbing. I wanted to travel.

Pretty standard stuff for a lot of young folks who can't afford college...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 12, 2013 - 12:37pm PT

i realise that, but don't understand why that is the case. that's what i meant.

That there is pretty indicative why you don't get it yet feel inclined to
make such a condescending statement.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 16, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Survival is correct here. You can't choose which vets are worthy of praise based on the wars they SERVED in! They served their country and went to war under orders from their commanders. Not because of political ideology.

ALL vets deserve respect and our thanks.

Here's a prez honoring his men; http://patdollard.com/2013/11/love-this-how-to-thank-a-soldier-by-george-w-bush/

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 16, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
I am a veteran and because of my time in service i question the right of politicians, who rarely have loved ones serving, to so blithely send young Americans into harms way.
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