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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabond movin on
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Never know...Newsmax Media, Inc. may have a lot of cash to dump as the election is tomorrow. They could have presented Chris with a bunch of $$ for advertising -- provided they get rid of the most publicized thread that recently brought people to the Taco.
http://w3.newsmax.com/a/nov12/?promo_code=10742-1
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Just curious
but has anyone ever seen pRyan and cMac on the top of Nt. Sneffles at the same time?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Bump for the truth. Or at least an explanation.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
SLO, Ca
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Here is my guess: the owner of this site has repeatedly requested that the political bullshite be kept to a minimum. A supertopo thread gets outed in some political article about Ryan, no doubt dragging more non-climbing, ill informed blowhards to this site. Deletion might cut some of them off at the pass.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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This makes the forum smell of dead fish and CMac look bad around the world.
it will be on CNN tonite no doubt. they will forgo erection reporting to report on "Days of Supertopo Lives"...
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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I think Lois (aka The LEB-Thing) had something to do with it!
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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LEB, Rokjox, Skipt, Crowley under fattrad's leadership pulled the plug....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Is Ryan gone yet?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Ooooh CockEye you stopped ass raping yourself with an oversized oosik long enough to crawl out from behind the woodwork and spew santorum again. You are a cowardly anonymous trollboi. Your parents must be so proud.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Ryan is gone, what happened to the thread?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Ooooh CockEye you stopped ass raping yourself with an oversized oosik long enough to crawl out from behind the woodwork and spew santorum again. You are a cowardly anonymous trollboi. Your parents must be so proud.
philo,
you are a pussy. but thats ok. we legalized gay marriage in my state and 420, it might make you feel better to get high and get married at the same time.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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stay on topic
if Ryan is getting married, it's his own damn business
just as long as he doesn't do it in Colorado
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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^Do you ask the Beatles that?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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OK Fritz, I will behave now. I was just trying to get banned.
Banning is better than unexplained censorship.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Well, I hope you're all happy. All this talk of what a lying bitch Ryan was focused attention on the facts and cost him and Romney the election. Proceed to 4 more years of hope and change round 2. Ding ding ding.
This poster, for example, is already fading....time to move on and get the topic back where it belongs. Sarah Palin. ...not.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 12:02pm PT
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The remaining issue is why Chris McNamara, the owner of Supertopo, saw fit to delete the thread in the weeks before the election. It is likely that the deleted thread brought more attention to Supertopo outside of the climbing community than any other thread in its history. A thread that might have been viewed for years to come, especially if Ryan runs for President in four years, is now gone. So it is very curious as to why this happened. Since Chris has chosen not to explain himself, we can only speculate.
There are a couple possibilities that have been suggested:
1) He was threatened by GOP operatives . If Chris caved to this pressure, he was not getting good legal advice. The First Amendment would certainly protect him against any liability arising from a Ryan supporter's lawsuit, there would be hordes of volunteer climbing lawyers lined up to defend him pro bono if that happened, and public exposure of the litigation threat would certainly make them back down. Has anyone ever heard of any candidate for national office bringing such a suit? It just doesn't happen. So, I have ruled this out.
2 )He received a financial incentive to delete the thread from some republican funding source. That is too mercenary for me to believe. I have ruled this out too.
3) A poster to the thread was offended by a personal remark in it and asked it to be deleted. This is more likely since a libel suit by a non-public figure can be a real threat to a forum like this. This seems the most likely explanation to me, but I don't remember anything particularly scandalous said about anyone on that thread. Sure, there were the occasional "inanely combative" comments, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Chris can do what he wants with his site and can delete any thread. But Supertopo promotes it's discussion forum as a "community." It certainly detracts from any sense of "community" when a unique political/climbing thread disappears and no explanation is offered.
It also displays a disturbing arrogance by the owner of this site to simply ignore this subject. I have written Chris privately, and asked him publicly for an explanation. But nothing.
The way this has been handled by ST is surprising and just not "good blokery", as a Brit might put it.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
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Rick
Most likely Chris does not want any unnecessary trouble coming his way pertaining to your problem.
It can take a life of it's own no matter what the reasons were as we see all time here when threads spiral out of control by the zealots.
It will become a big side show hassle for him. (ie pain in the ass).
This whole site is his life source and he will protect it from any unnecessary trouble without having to give his reasons.
His primary focus is on the Climbing world and seriously would like to avoid most all political trespasses.
Best wishes, Werner
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Nov 17, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
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Ricky, I agree completely with you just above and the fact there hasn't been an explanation for the thread's disappearance should be disturbing to everyone here.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 17, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
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Someone once said a candidate for the Supreme Court should be approved because
"Average people should have representation on the court."
Good to see Sarah Palin is still on our minds. Despite the best efforts of many over the past 200 years, her demographic has yet to live at 1600 Pa Ave. Mitt was a good shot but somehow we were denied yet again.
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