Ashira and 14c- Thoughts?

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GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Nov 1, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
I started climbing much younger, in a gym, and I don't think it would be 'better' - just different. Probably you wouldn't have become as rad an alpinist if you devoted more days to bouldering, sport climbing, campus board workouts, sh#t you have to do if you want to climb hard plastic (which, if you're a kid in a gym, seems like a really, really cool idea).
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Nov 1, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
Truth is that I am not an alpinist, and for sure far from rad. Mountaineer- more like it. Pulling hard and having better climbing technique would help me a lot though. But again this thread is about these amazing kids- my hat is off. Hope they enjoy it as much as they say they do!
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 1, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
To be honest watching kids climb etc makes me a bit jealous. I wish I started climbing at a younger age so that my technique now was much better. Although climbing for me DOES come down to having fun, I do also consider it a true art. Like dancers, the climbers with good technique are awesome to watch. It feels great when you figure out a move and make something very strenuous into a natural body movement- just by changing position of your body. At times I feel like a terrible dancer, and it sucks. So watching these kids (or other climbers with better technique) is quite motivational. Have no idea why some people have the need to put them down for the type of climbing they enjoy.

Why the little girl can climb much harder than you (and me) has little if anything to do with technique. Just strength-to-weight ratio, and tiny fingers for what to you are tiny holds (to her, they're jugs). The ability to hang on to small holds requires no special "technique."

I guess her technique is good, just like I imagine that Usain Bolt has at least pretty good sprinting technique. But if you think that's why he's faster than you are . . .
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Nov 1, 2012 - 05:43pm PT
She climbs BETTER than you.
No excuses. Get over it.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Nov 1, 2012 - 06:56pm PT
^^^^^

Beta male
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Nov 1, 2012 - 06:59pm PT
Facepalm.
jogill

climber
Colorado
Nov 1, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
Ashima has excellent technique to complement her strength to weight ratio.

Accept it, guys. She's the future of the sport.

Heed wise counsel from Kerwin: Alpinism is still available.

Or polish your rationalizations.


;>)
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Nov 1, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
Don't worry, John, on her 14th birthday she'll climb the Rupal Face and all us will have to cling to Aid Climbing as the "Real Climbing."
Epic E

Big Wall climber
CA
Nov 1, 2012 - 11:25pm PT
Does anyone know if the climbs she red pointed and flashed where rap bolted?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Nov 2, 2012 - 12:52am PT
they were chiseled
icaro

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 2, 2012 - 02:40am PT
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Nov 2, 2012 - 02:45am PT
Man, glad I clicked that vid. Thanks.
jogill

climber
Colorado
Nov 2, 2012 - 07:20pm PT

Help me solidify my thoughts. I realize that this will remain a remarkable feat regardless of my/our opinions-- it just crys out for deeper contemplation

Adult climbers have pondered this issue since the beginnings of rock climbing as a recreational sport (1880s):


"Let anyone of ordinary height take a friendly small boy of an active nature for practice on such a place [high stone wall at home . . .] and he will have the pleasure of seeing him easily climb up vertical places that are much more difficult, or probably impossible, for the taller man, even though he may be an expert mountaineer." - George Abraham in The Complete Mountaineer (1907)
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Nov 2, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
Staunch conservative movement versus free flowing aesthetics.

Yup, kids can teach old dogs new tricks.

T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 20, 2012 - 12:00am PT
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
Nov 20, 2012 - 02:10am PT
^^ white guy named the video
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Nov 20, 2012 - 02:19am PT
Question for all those who think Ashima has an advantage because of her strength to weight ratio, what do you have to say about her much shorter reach? Is that some sort of advantage, too:-)
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Nov 20, 2012 - 03:08am PT
If I was Obe I'd ignore established routes, and put her on a strict đΊet of FAs - be them shitty or 5 stars.
zxcvbnm

climber
Nov 20, 2012 - 09:47am PT
@bhilden Actually shorter arms gives the advantage of better leverage. But more reach would be more valuable than this.
bigwall shitter

Social climber
the wild west
Dec 10, 2012 - 03:04am PT
so does her coach get paid to give her beta or is he there on his own accord? Sh#t, I mean does he do any climbing of his own?

It's great that she's so talented, but ninja warrior princess? Why can't she just be climbing without all this bullsh#t?
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