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Ed Hartouni
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Livermore, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 01:28am PT
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you got the Turkish lesson right.. it is the begining of the side... I was impatient last night and didn't listen to it through...
They are so good.... actually still current and apropos criticism. I guess we never really learn.
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yo
climber
I'm so over it
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May 23, 2006 - 01:33am PT
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What are you two talking about???!!!
I got it all wrong.
I wound up believing in words the way a scientist
Believes in carbon, after death.
--Larry Levis
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 23, 2006 - 01:34am PT
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So much of their stuff is so far ahead of the curve, even when it sounds, ostensibly, nostalgic.
"Double click on memory, doctor." from what? 1975?
I really thought "Boom dot Bust," right before the silicon crash was prophetic to the point of presceince (sp?).
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Tarbuster
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right here, right now
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May 23, 2006 - 01:36am PT
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what thread drift,
no matter where you go, there we are...
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WBraun
climber
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May 23, 2006 - 01:41am PT
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Are we really?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 23, 2006 - 01:43am PT
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"but who am us, anyway?" Roy?
Yo, and/or anyone else patient enough to read this without fore-knowledge -a link, to scratch the surface on this weird sh#t.
http://www.firesigntheatre.com//
Again it would be, SO, cool to have clean Dan here, as part of this
ramble. -he was on top of this idiom.
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Tarbuster
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May 23, 2006 - 01:52am PT
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but who am us jay?
for the most part, the folks with brown paper bags over our heads, who see the inside of the bag.
sometimes we get funny too...
other times we are funny.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 01:57am PT
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yo
we are talking about The Firesign Theatre, something out of our youth which has survived to this very day in an intact form...
...they have been nattering on and on since the mid 70's, now going on 30 years.
The line in question above happens to have been appropriated as a name for a climb:
He Can't Shout, Don't Hear You 5.7 Little Wing Area FA 1974 Bob Ashworth Jeff Stubbs
They are a subversive element, clowns whose comedic style sometimes masks the cutting criticism of our society.
While many references may be dated, they are dead on...
...the noise you hear at the begining of this clip is a "rotary phone" being dialed... and then you get the punch line...
Get them and listen... perhaps the "radio show" idiom is too slow for you i/o saturated youngin's, I think it would be worth a listen.
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Tarbuster
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May 23, 2006 - 01:59am PT
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hey jay, that link took me to a web host domain thingy wacker...
i got a clean dan ramble on my voice mail in box still.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 23, 2006 - 02:02am PT
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(this was to tar two posts up, I'm a slow typer/thinker)
Sounds like another 'cave,' analogy rumbling.
Grant us the power to enjoy part of the time we are funny
and live through the time we are not funny
and let others enjoy the time we are funny but don't know it
and give us the sense
to knott have to know which is which.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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May 23, 2006 - 02:09am PT
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alright, i was driftin' into the cave analogy:
Trite?
You betcha.
so there's this cave i'm in.
then there's this fire behind me.
never mind turnin' to look into the fire.
i can't tell the shadows from the walls.
so i'm tryin' super hard just to see if there's a wall behind the shadows.
meanwhile, if i'm lucky, ed will tune in fireside theater for some good, wholesome distraction.
(louder please ed)
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 23, 2006 - 02:20am PT
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should we look 'for' a specific thing beyond the shadows, or is that preconcieved expectations/hiesenberg -oid.
Where is Werner when you need him?
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Tarbuster
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May 23, 2006 - 02:24am PT
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he can't hear us right now.
too much bable.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 02:26am PT
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or playdough?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 23, 2006 - 02:29am PT
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"This is it, this the trip, this is the part I really like," (also) Jim Morrison.
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Tarbuster
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May 23, 2006 - 02:30am PT
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oh, look "for".
jeepers, i thought we were encouraged to stop looking at what the traces of illumination were casting on the walls and turn around to behold the source.
my gist was, and here i am tryin' to peel a shadow off the wall, all desperate and scientific and whatnot, to get behind that.
oh- some rolling stone ditty kieth richard's sings,
something like:
-just sittin' here in the rain with my babee, tryin to put this jigsaw puzzle together...
(that works for me)
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 02:32am PT
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Well, the clock says it's time to close now
I guess I'd better go now
I'd really like to stay here all night
The cars crawl past all stuffed with eyes
Street lights share their hollow glow
Your brain seems bruised with numb surprise
Still one place to go
Still one place to go
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 23, 2006 - 02:35am PT
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Me, I'm just waiting so patiently
With my woman on the floor
We're just trying to do this jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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May 23, 2006 - 02:35am PT
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'nighty nite all!
-thanks ed, now i don't have miles to go before i sleep.
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