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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
^^^^HAhahaahahahaa!!!! That's EXACTLY how I saw the slick-backed flip flopper of a salesman.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
California,, pumping out terrorists..Teaching and training them..

That's not at all a kick in the balls to my Blue State Marine Corps brother who fought and got mentally screwed up over in Iraq. You've gone so far right, you're falling of the map, Ron!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
Jeebs no slam intended for those supporting the country. But you CAN NOT call me out for simply returning what the left gives.

and the FAKTS ARE that cali just produced four terrorists and adds thousands of known gang members here every stinkin year.

and,,


California again trumped other states with a $617 billion debt. California’s debt is more than twice the size of New York‘s state debt, and New York has the second largest total debt burden in the nation. Texas, Illinois, and New Jersey rounded out the top five states with the most debt. Although New York and Texas moved up one and two spots, respectively, the states with the five largest debts remained unchanged from last year’s report.

Vermont has the least amount of debt of all fifty states with a $5.8 billion state debt. North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska follow Vermont with the smallest debt burdens in the country.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
Ron, and here I thought you said NV was pumping out the most gang bangers these days....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
California is probably the only thing keeping our pathetic, service-based economy afloat. NV, servicing CA since 1864.

You can choose to engage in the conversation at whichever level you want, Ron. Continuing it at the level of rank divisiveness does not seem to move things forward. Just looks like bitter fruit from here. That poster is an example of propaganda at its worst. I would like you to send it to all the CA families who have lost soldiers if you stand behind it.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:55pm PT
At least California doesn't spread it's debt around. We pay out to the rest of the country and we've taken great steps to take care of our debt with Prop 30 and cuts.

Something the failed Schwarzenegger and repubs in assembly refused to do. Good riddance.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 21, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
I would like you to send it to all the CA families who have lost soldiers if you stand behind it.


Amen. Most of the guys I served with were actually blue staters, not that it means a helluva lot. Once your uniform is on you try to look after your brothers no matter where they're from.

I'm from a blue state and I served in a much more hard core place than the forest service Ron, just sayin'.

Donini too.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
Y'all just got to turn off that Fox. Makes a person crazy.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
No,, we simply recieve them from Cali,, MS13, Cripps, bloods, tokers, et all.

All paths and ties stem directly from major Cali cities unfortunately.




I heard something very interesting coming from an ambassador yesterday on a radio talk show.
He spoke of CULTURAL differences and that the RACISM label is often mis-used. And in fact he is correct. The third world influences we have here now are exactly that,, CULTURALLY different and in many cases culturally DAMAGING as they are pre-disposed to a third world culture which they bring with them. In the case of Carson, many areas have gone through this cultural change and not for the better. Those neighborhoods are now cruised by multiple police cars per night.
As a PRIME EXAMPLE, my parents old place in Carson was broken into shorty after my Mother died (2001). I sold that place long ago, but was curious as to if anything ever became of that break in case. So i called my sheriff buddy and asked about it.. He asked me ,,"which break in are you asking about? There has been NINE since 2001!???? So for thirty some years, that place never had a break in, and now it has a revolving door there are so many..





edit: Well you guys CERTAINLY dont like to be painted with a broad brush !

It doesnt feel very good DOES IT??

And all three of my brothers were inducted in CALI...So attempting to "broad brush" me in that light just "aint" gonna work..
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
Most of the dudes I served with were from a "State of Complete Confusion" prior to joining. When they got out, they made a point to not return to where they came from.



This BS back and forth between Blue and Red is not one bit good for any of us here.


Seems that it always takes some kind of national disaster of sorts to bring us all back to the State of White.

Be nice if we were ALWAYS in that state....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Well you guys CERTAINLY dont like to be painted with a broad brush !

It doesnt feel very good DOES IT??

And all three of my brothers were inducted in CALI...So attempting to "broad brush" me in that light just "aint" gonna work..

Hey if you wanna piss on fallen soldiers and then take it back, it just shows where you're at in the game. Election's over, we need to move on instead of feeding into hate. Last I checked, this is one country, not warring States. It's time we act like one country again instead of looking out for just our own petty interests. That's just my take.

edit: The propaganda machine of hate on both sides has gone too far. My wife's grandparents have alienated themselves from her in favor of Fox News. She's a professional success, moral, beautiful woman, and they choose to judge her for not endorsing Fox News bs. It's very sad that hate mongers choose to make small differences matter more than the big picture. I hate to go there, but Hitler could take a lesson from those POS hate mongers. They'll ruin our country one day if we let them.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
Election's over, we need to move on instead of feeding into hate. Last I checked, this is one country, not warring States. It's time we act like one country again instead of looking out for just our own petty interests.

Bingo!


Not bad.....
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
The Chief and I agreeing! This is a momentous occasion. We have set aside our Lance Armstrong differences to unify the country. Heh.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
Jeebs,, thats why i posted about the UN treaty, Agenda21 and the NDAA2013.

BUT because some will excuse ANYTHING the current admin does i get labeled things like racist, war monger, or have my past LEO stint insulted. Guess whut bub,, i DIDNT throw the first dagger here. And further more,, to insinuate that i somehow belittled ANY person that has served is a twist on your part, not mine. THAT was an example of what the other side was serving, yet you DIDNT chime in there and then.

"repugs lost- suck it" was OK?? and IM the guilty party??




The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
Just goes to show ya anything is possible...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
Hey, Ron, if you answer neener neener neener with neener neener neener, you are no better than what you feel belittled by. You're responding to every little jab like it's a personal attack on you. I know you're a good guy, don't get sucked in by crappy things you see on the internet, that's just the nature of discourse here.

There's now way to right every perceived wrong and snotty toned reply here, that's just what it is. You believe what you believe and somebody believes their own bs. So what? That's America, man.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
"they'll ruin our country"

Interesting wording Jeebs.

You say hate mongers will do this? Well, i dare you to review the political threads here, and then tell me who is more the hate mongers here.

Who throw the insults like there is no tomorrow? Who uses labels and posts inflammatory pics more??



and WHO seeks a law that allows the military to detain any one of US for an indefinite amount of time w/o ANY DUE PROCESS, for being "belligerent"? And when and if you go to trial it will be through a military tribunal..
A country RULED by military law and justice...That doesnt sound like the USA i have sacrificed for.


This i bring to EVERYONES attention.. It was said upthread that im the canary for ST on this. Now as funny as that seems now, just wait a year or less. The admin is already seeking further control and rights violations via the internet right now. This affects YOU, me, here there and everywhere.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
You see what you see, Ron. And I said both sides do it, if ya read real close there. Being more of a lefty, I notice the right's jabs more. Being a righty, you notice the left's. So what? It's the same stuff.

You are asking for fair judgment in politics. That is an impossibility. You're looking for Jehovah riding on a unicorn come down the mount to pronounce once and for all who rises and who falls. It's just an everlasting struggle and will be long after we're gone. Do your bp a favor and turn that noise OFF for a week.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
i WASNT ON THE INTERNET during bush years...
Nov 21, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
horse NUGGETS Jeebs,, TELL ME what you think of that NDAA 2013, or the UN TREATY or AGENDA 21..

These are all ground breaking things going on right now that will FOREVER affect us, our kids , our kids kids kids even.

And Obama is doing this all if we let him. He makes bush look like minor league when it comes to control over the citizenry. And the shatting on of our Constitution..

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