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dirtbag

climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
Bitter white guy alert! Bitter white guy alert!

Whoop!

Whoop!

Whoop!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
Yeah, I hope you lose your job too.


I was just calling for fair competition in the free market, without union bullshit and rules.

I compete in that market, as do so many other competent people.

Did you know I could not enter a San Francisco studio to do work until a union rep showed up, just to oversee and watch? Do you know how much of my time that wasted? And he didn't even watch me work!!!

F*#ked up, bra!
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:59pm PT
And there is nothing in the Constitution about unions or workers rights, despite how you'd like to twist the language therein. Current Federal Law works. As does State law.

You know, there's nothing about having political parties in the constitution and many of the founding fathers were against them

I'm thinking they were right

peace

karl
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
You know, there's nothing about having political parties in the constitution and many of the founding fathers were against them

I'm thinking they were right

peace

karl


Word, my commie brother. Word.

In fact, they warned against a 2 party system if I'm not mistaken...

Sometimes Karl is spot-on.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:13pm PT
TGT...It aint the teachers....Maybe it has to do with the fact that the parents don't give a crap about education or maybe the parents have to work 3 jobs to make ends meet and don't have time to mentor their kids...Attacking the teachers is just a Koch brothers rue to pay teachers minimum wage so the stinkin rich can squirrel a few more dollars away...But maybe you are part of the 2%...?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
Unions are democracy for workers, and logical extensions of guaranteed 1st amendment rights

Again, try educating yourself - Germany's auto manufacturing industry is fully unionized, and thriving


http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/

http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/tale-two-systems


Or, accept that the only way to survive is to lower your standards - your call.


Apples unt Oranges. Germany operates differently than the US. It is mostly Socialist. Also, they have almost zero defense budgets because we defend them.

Why not compare us to China? They're doing good, right?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:17pm PT
TGT..I might add that the scandinavian countries are doing a better job of educating their children than the US is...Maybe it has to do with being progressive socialist countries that provide national healthcare for their citizens....I know this goes against what Fox news tells you to think...
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 11, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
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Make no mistake there is a war against public education in America. It is fueled by corporate interests and perpetrated by conservative republicans.
Squeeze the life out of the education budget and blame the teachers.
The goal is scuttle liberal arts education and to further the ascendancy of private faith based or military schools.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 12, 2012 - 12:25am PT
The goal is scuttle liberal arts education and to further the ascendancy of private faith based or military schools.

And to promote ignorance and uniformity, stifle creativity and critical thinking - all those things that make good conservative voters.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 12, 2012 - 01:46am PT
What are you saying here Blue? That all union members are thugs? That because there are bad actors who are union members we should deny others their constitutional rights?


Yes, pretty much.

Wow. Just wow.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 12, 2012 - 08:11am PT
Fascism is alive and well.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 12, 2012 - 11:11am PT
N. Korea appears to have been successful with their launch of a long range missile..


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/north-korea-launches-rocket/2012/12/11/id/467357?s=al&promo_code=11115-1
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Dec 12, 2012 - 11:30am PT
Bluering: "In fact, they warned against a 2 party system if I'm not mistaken."

BZZT you are mistaken. What we have today was a byproduct of having a presidential vs parliamentary form of govt. Madison laid it out well in the Federalist Papers #10 when he argued why a country as large as ours, with so many different factions, required a 2 party system.

If you think it's bad now, can you imagine if we had 5, 10, heck, a herd of parties as dysfunctional as our 2 parties are today? ((((SHUDDERS))))
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 12, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
it isnt the repubs calling for the debt ceiling to be lifted now is it. No, that would be Obama. He SAID he would cut the deficit in half his first term and now asks for extensions on the natl credit card... uh huh....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 12, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
so he just makes it up as he goes along then, because he DID PROMISE to cut our deficit in half his first term.. I wonder if i can get my debt ceiling lifted on my cards? Two mill should suffice. I wonder how they will react when i call them to inform them due to me being unable to pay my current debt that i would like it to be tripled??

I realize this trillions of dollar debt is never going to be paid off by actual monies. But to just keep sinking doesnt seem to be the logical stance- at least thats the way the rest of the worlds businesses act.

But i do know that when your so broke as we are, giving away monies to ANY ONE else besides our own isnt logical either.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 12, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
Ron, Ron, Ron - dude, you have a tenuous and higly emotional relationship with 'facts'. Deficits? Don't panic dude. Post WWII deficit spending is what made America great. It finally took Clinton to put us into the black. And please note it was W who really pounded deficits back into the dirt by fighting unfunded wars, endless corporate handouts, and of course big gifts to the rich - republican policies are exactly why we're running the deficit we are, but that to shall pass.

So, really dude, as the man said: "Keep your nerve Ron, 'cause I'm gonna keep mine."



P.S. While presidents can propose deficit cutting, only congress can actually do it. So when the republican-controlled House deliberately conspires to keep deficits high for four years as a political strategy for the next election, it's hardly Obama's fault. The public just demonstrated they understand that which is why republicans are going to be the ones on the bottom for the landing if we do go off their cliff.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Dec 12, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
Well you bring up points ive wondered about myself. Is it all political propaganda? Yet the effects over seas tell different stories.. Economies all over are in a struggle. All tied to this global demon thats been created and put upon us. All i can really say factually is that NV is the bottom of the economy of the country, and that bottom keeps getting lower.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 12, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
P.S. While presidents can propose deficit cutting, only congress can actually do it. So when the republican-controlled House deliberately conspires to keep deficits high for four years as a political strategy for the next election, it's hardly Obama's fault. The public just demonstrated they understand that which is why republicans are going to be the ones on the bottom for the landing if we do go off their cliff.

A few of the many problems with that argument:

1. The Republicans controlled the House for only the last two years. During the first two years of Obama's presidency, and for two years before that, the Nancy Pelosi gang controlled the House;

2. The President's budget was rejected unanimously in both the House and Senate;

3. The Democrats in the Senate have insured that no budget was been passed there for over three years.

4. The real problem is that the American people have demonstrated that they don't want to do anything that really brings down the deficit. They only support taxing "the rich" (i.e., don't tax me, tax someone else), they don't support cutting spending anywhere, they don't support entitlement reform, and they want everything to remain the same. The fact that this has as much chance of happening as King Canute's command to the waves testifies quite eloquently about the state of general economic understanding both of the public, and of the media from which we hear our news.

John
John M

climber
Dec 12, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
so he just makes it up as he goes along then, because he DID PROMISE to cut our deficit in half his first term.

You do understand that there is a difference between budget deficit and national debt? Don't you?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 12, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
4. The real problem is that the American people have demonstrated that they don't want to do anything that really brings down the deficit. They only support taxing "the rich" (i.e., don't tax me, tax someone else), they don't support cutting spending anywhere, they don't support entitlement reform, and they want everything to remain the same. The fact that this has as much chance of happening as King Canute's command to the waves testifies quite eloquently about the state of general economic understanding both of the public, and of the media from which we hear our news.

Your Buckley-esque lament is nothing more than a more eloquent, coded version of "free stuff". Not really a reality and, hey, the deficits are undeniably a direct result of republican military adventurism, tax breaks to the wealth, and successive cuts in the corporate tax rate. It ain't rocket science. And the dem senate rejected house budgets because they were explicitly designed, by republicans, to be rejected.
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