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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 08:50pm PT
Translation: "Unions make those of us too stupid not to be in a union, or to organize our workplace, feel really stupid! And makes us post idiotic, emotional rants that would embarrass a 7 year old!"


Um, no. A 7-yr old would say that where is that in the Constitution? If they were educated anywhere other than Michigan, of course...
dirtbag

climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
Gotta love how righties demonize working people.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 11, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
Where is the Space program in the Constitution?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:05pm PT
Thanks Werner for that link. The video should be madatory viewing for our ST resident Chicken Hawk Anti-Semites.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:17pm PT




In a letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid, 18 Democrat senators and senators-elect have asked for “a delay in the implementation” of the Obamacare medical device tax. Like most of the significant tax increases in Obamacare, the medical device tax is scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, 2013, conveniently after the 2012 presidential election.

Each of the 18 Democrat signatories voted for or supported Obamacare in the first place. And now they want a sweetheart exemption from one of its most onerous provisions. Even in Washington DC, that shows a lot of gall.

The signatories to the letter are as follows:

Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

Kay Hagan (D-N.C.)

Al Franken (D-Minn.)

Herb Kohl (D-Wis.)

Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.)

John Kerry (D-Mass.)

Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)

Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)

Robert Casey (D-Pa.)

Ben Nelson (D-Neb.)

Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.)

Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.)

Dick Durbin (D-Ill.)

Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.)

Patty Murray (D-Wash.)

Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)

Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.)

Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) – (Voted for Obamacare in the House)

Read more: http://atr.org/dems-delay-obamacare-med-device-tax-a7380#ixzz2EnesZPul
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froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
Um, no. A 7-yr old would say that where is that in the Constitution

That would be the First Amendment...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
give it a try, instead of ranting like a little child.


 asking a bit much, aren't ya?

I can't imagine any repug going to a reputable (anything) to gather information… ever.


Jus' sayin
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 09:55pm PT
Why do we need unions today? I work in electronics manufacturing, competeing with Chinese workers and we have no unions. WTF? And I make enough to live pretty comfortably, for now, in Calif.

State/Fed Laws cover workers rights very well. There is no need for unions.

EDIT: Froodish, remember the pertinent word in that phrase. 'Peacefully' assemble. You know, like Tea Partiers, unlike union thugs.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
State/Fed Laws cover workers rights very well.

Yes, thanks to unions.

Without unions, you can be sure those rights would erode.

And btw, unions, like many organizations, do overreach sometimes, but make no mistake there is a war on to completely abolish them.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
Yes, thanks to unions.

Without unions, you can be sure those rights would erode.

Utter bullsh#t, and you know this!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
Bluering...Like Zappa said....Wait till the political winds blow your way....You think because you have a few skills you are exempt from poverty....? Be careful bro...You may not be at the top of the black list but you are just another warm body waiting to be flicked from the back of some corporate dung heap...RJ
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
Michigan teachers can't spell either.

froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
remember the pertinent word in that phrase. 'Peacefully' assemble. You know, like Tea Partiers, unlike union thugs.

What are you saying here Blue? That all union members are thugs? That because there are bad actors who are union members we should deny others their constitutional rights?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
What Chinese companies/products does your company compete with?

In my work (TV production), non-union shoots pay more than union scale because the non-union productions have to offer competitive rates

Does your work pay above union scale so they can compete for the best workers with union shops?


None. But our board-level products are Made In China now. I build TV/Music/Post-Production audio consoles. And yes, our next product line will be fully built in China.

My company will be dead in 10 years if sh#t doesn't change. Unions would make that worse.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
What can't Michigan teachers spell?
Am I missing your pointlessness?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
TGT..It took me a while to notice the mis-spell....That's hilarious...My ex gf was a union rep for MEA and she could rip you a new one...If you don't behave i'll send her down there and have her re-arrange your playhouse....RJ
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:24pm PT
What are you saying here Blue? That all union members are thugs? That because there are bad actors who are union members we should deny others their constitutional rights?


Yes, pretty much. Much more so than Tea Party types.

And there is nothing in the Constitution about unions or workers rights, despite how you'd like to twist the language therein. Current Federal Law works. As does State law.

Nice try though.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
What can't Michigan teachers spell?
Am I missing your pointlessness?


The Gov.'s name, philo....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 11, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
was it on purpose as a double entendre?


Curious to know where tEEEEEEgEEEEEEEtEEEEEE got that pic. I can't find it anywhere else.
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