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Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Oct 31, 2012 - 01:07am PT
Intimidated by THIS guy?:



Well, I guess those rhinestone flip flops are a little scary.
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Oct 31, 2012 - 07:29am PT


I like the fact that the name is perfect.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:29am PT
the pit exists in a gray area, but some of the best things in life are like that.

before i understood the routine, cilley woke me up in the middle of the night and told me to repark my car. he's a great fellow and a climber of amazing dedication. when he looks after the pit, it's a good thing.

the pit has other eccentricities, which russ has taken some liberty to criticize. personally, i think the eccentrics involved are worth the tolerance.
James Wilcox

Boulder climber
The Coast
Oct 31, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Eccentricities are ok as long as the surrounding neighbors are cool with it, not necessarily the climbing community at large. It's one thing to piss off other people camping there, but when the people in the neighboring homes start getting mad that puts the property owner of The Pit in a terrible position.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Oct 31, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
I am going to be around again for some of the winter, expect to arrive mid November. Thank you to all who made such huge efforts to clean up the trash that was left. I am very glad to know that the dumpster is also taken away.

Russ, I would like to talk to you at some point. I was pretty amazed, during that whole thing last year, at being cast as a trouble-making drama queen.


rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
Actually Happigirl, I'm the one you need to talk to. I for one appreciated your efforts to get people to act in a more sensible fashion. Let me know when you hit town if you plan to stay there again, I'll make sure you have my phone # if there are issues.

eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Oct 31, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
I would think a tree would really spruce things up...or maybe some Rasperry carbuncle.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Oct 31, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
Okay Robert - will get in touch when I land.

jstan

climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
Now that the Pit is on a good path I have been working on Coyote Hole. Today I saw perhaps the most tragic thing I have ever seen.

After I had actually scrambled up some rocks( woohoo!) and finished the right canyon I ran into a boulderer.

(That was not tragic. Bear with me)

He said there was trash in the left canyon. This is what I found.
1. Crayons
2. A box for a baby stroller
3. Socks for a baby
4. Trash everywhere
5. Materials from a 7th or 8th grade class
6. Broken beer bottles




and a syringe











Lynn asked me why I left Santa Barbara. The house I was in there was finished. Everyone you meet there on the street was a CEO. Everyone was hugely educated.

There wasnít a thing there for me to do.

It was pretty, sure.

But life isnít only about pretty.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
moving thru
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
Thanks for your info, jstan.

How great that you have chosen to move around this planet, to grow and broaden your life making this world we inhabit more lovely. Super example to many, showing that a persons life can continue to evolve as you try out new ideas.

Blessings, lynnie
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:41pm PT
Hey, dickcilley , we missed you up here this year--hopefully, you can come back and climb the dozen(s) of cracks that you missed...

Kevin
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
moving thru
Oct 31, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
Does it really matter :D ?? Glasses do not the person make. But then I'm being too serious on a holiday night. lynne

susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Oct 31, 2012 - 11:59pm PT
Hey Coz,

I've pretty much been out of the beat-up-on-Coz thing but this one really gets my goat. JStan has the one of the locals who's ACTUALLY doing something. Donating his time and efforts REGULARLY to clean up MY community. The man is done & gone with his community service before I'm even done with my cyber-cafe morning.

So, Mr. Hypocrite who was just patting his own back a few posts ago about being able to avoid the Pit with "a few days of guiding" get off your high-horse! JStan is a pillar of this community to be respected and admired and shame on you for beating him down. And for that matter, Lynne who appreciates the effort. For what's left as your own reputation I recommend you retract now as "joking' while you still can.

~Susan Peplow
jstan

climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 11:59pm PT
With the internet we have an important new tool. Instantaneous communication. Now I expected a mixture of positive and negative reactions when we all first went to work on the Pit. The topic of this thread. The reactions are nearly all positive. This implies there is interest to do more out there and communication is the key to helping that happen.

There is a second Pit in the area and the JT Clean Team is working on it. Today they worked on Rt. 62 at La Contenta. I found the road West of that intersection was ten times dirtier than the roads maintained by the Clean Team. The residents of Joshua Tree have a very real reason to applaud that great group.

Today in Coyote Hole I saw more ancient rock art I had not before noticed. The area is an irreplaceable asset. If we would give them the chance the people who lived in the area long ago could, in a sense, now become included among us. What I described earlier, suggests we today, need all the help we can get.

http://www.petroglyphs.us/photographs_petroglyphs_coyote_hole_joshua_tree_CH.htm

Coz, I am sorry that I am unable to please you. If I read you correctly you are a person who goes out and does what you think you need to do. I have not had a negative word to say about what you either do or say. I plan to continue giving you this regard.

Captain...or Skully

climber
Nov 1, 2012 - 12:00am PT
purpose.
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Nov 1, 2012 - 02:16am PT
Word Sooze.

That just seemed so mean spirited towards a guy who is doing something so positive for the benefit of so many.

Keep up the good work jstan!
jstan

climber
Nov 1, 2012 - 03:09am PT
Purpose gives one the power to act.

Purpose gives a community the power


to do the impossible.
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Nov 1, 2012 - 04:45am PT
Jstan, thank you for so much of the work you're doing out there. You're not patting yourself on the back. You're doing work to make a place we love and even better place. You have all my respect and back patting. If I see you out there I WILL pat you on the back and give you a huge hug for all you've done. Cheers bro.

rurprider

Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Nov 1, 2012 - 05:05am PT
jstan.....I've never stayed at The Pit, but appreciate what you and Robert are doing and that the climbing community has this resource available because of you, both. "THANK YOU!
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2012 - 07:06am PT
Hmmm, I don't really see John patting himself on the back at all. What I see is someone who is stepping up to the plate and doing his level best to support the very community that the detractors on this thread claim to care so much about.

That strikes me as very hypocritical.

If anything John deserves every bit of the praise he has received and more. He came to me with a plan. He had already done his home work on what it would take. I told him, go for it, and he did. It's just that simple.

Now we have a clean slate to work from. Where it leads totally depends on the user group of the pit.

Hopefully with a little more interaction things can improve.

Only time will tell.

If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. If things do improve this season, then everybody wins.
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