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Trad climber
BackInTheDitch BackInTheDirt BackInTheDay
Oct 30, 2012 - 10:53am PT

carbuncle |ˈkärˌbə ng kəl|
1 a severe abscess or multiple boil in the skin, typically infected with staphylococcus bacteria.
2 a bright red gem, in particular a garnet cut en cabochon.
carbuncular |kärˈbə ng kyələr| adjective
ORIGIN Middle English (sense 2) : from Old French charbuncle, from Latin carbunculus ‘small coal,’ from carbo ‘coal, charcoal.’

Social climber
Oct 30, 2012 - 10:56am PT

Thanks ekat!!!...

But I already knew exactly what a Carbuncle is...

It's why I found Russ' comment so humorus...


gonzo chemist

Fort Collins, CO
Oct 30, 2012 - 07:16pm PT
"He at least had the sack to say something about what he perceived as trouble rolling in."

Mr. Cilley needs to re-evaluate his powers of perception.

Other than that, nice rant.

On a separate note: I've interacted D.C. in other contexts and found him to be quite the cordial fellow.

Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Oct 30, 2012 - 07:25pm PT
On a separate note: I've interacted D.C. in other contexts and found him to be quite the cordial fellow.

I thought you said he was an "asshat"?

I heard the story about this purge last night. According to my source you rolled in on the ass end of a police raid that threw everyone out of the pit. Cilley though, reminded the tools that it was private property and it was "them" that needed to leave. And they did. I hear he was a bit touchy after that. Bad timing? Or maybe he just didn't like your looks or attitude? Let's ask him...

Fill us in Dick... and where are you anyway?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
moving thru
Oct 30, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
Jstan, appreciate all you and others have said and done. Why did you move to JTree? Jess wondering?

Speaking of Hanta.....I'll be home free end of Nov. Crazy stuff. Lynne

Edit: On a lighter note, is anyone having a Halloween Party this week? Have a couple days off. Yo can email or post here. :D
gonzo chemist

Fort Collins, CO
Oct 30, 2012 - 11:22pm PT

It wasn't my intention to start a fight on here or anything like that. It was a bit out of line to refer to D.C. as an "ass-hat." I apologize for that.

If there was a police incident, then I was unaware of that. I can certainly understand him being a bit pissed off about something like that.

I just didn't expect to be accosted for wanting to sleep for a couple hours.


Oct 31, 2012 - 12:44am PT
Personally I have found confronting people is a bad idea. Just who the hell are you is the question
immediately asked. And you don't have an answer. Then both sides are into emotion and the
attempt not to be found to be "wrong." Hopeless.

I find people who are good at this quite amazing. The first step seems to be one of showing and
having a real interest in the other person. The interest can't be faked. If you do feel the interest,
you can then exchange names, ask a few questions and tell about your hopes for how the Pit can be
improved and made more enjoyable. If someone is four or five sigma out there this won't work. But
that many sigma means this won't happen that often.

The trick is you really have to have an interest in the other person. If you can't do that you are left
with getting them to stand downwind from the campfire as you piss into it.

I have found that to be difficult. It takes really good timing.

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Oct 31, 2012 - 01:07am PT
Intimidated by THIS guy?:

Well, I guess those rhinestone flip flops are a little scary.

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Oct 31, 2012 - 07:29am PT

I like the fact that the name is perfect.
Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:29am PT
the pit exists in a gray area, but some of the best things in life are like that.

before i understood the routine, cilley woke me up in the middle of the night and told me to repark my car. he's a great fellow and a climber of amazing dedication. when he looks after the pit, it's a good thing.

the pit has other eccentricities, which russ has taken some liberty to criticize. personally, i think the eccentrics involved are worth the tolerance.
James Wilcox

Boulder climber
The Coast
Oct 31, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Eccentricities are ok as long as the surrounding neighbors are cool with it, not necessarily the climbing community at large. It's one thing to piss off other people camping there, but when the people in the neighboring homes start getting mad that puts the property owner of The Pit in a terrible position.

Trad climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
I am going to be around again for some of the winter, expect to arrive mid November. Thank you to all who made such huge efforts to clean up the trash that was left. I am very glad to know that the dumpster is also taken away.

Russ, I would like to talk to you at some point. I was pretty amazed, during that whole thing last year, at being cast as a trouble-making drama queen.


Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
Actually Happigirl, I'm the one you need to talk to. I for one appreciated your efforts to get people to act in a more sensible fashion. Let me know when you hit town if you plan to stay there again, I'll make sure you have my phone # if there are issues.


Trad climber
Golden, CO
Oct 31, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
I would think a tree would really spruce things up...or maybe some Rasperry carbuncle.

Trad climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
Okay Robert - will get in touch when I land.


Social climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 07:53pm PT

"or maybe some Rasperry carbuncle"...



Social climber
Oct 31, 2012 - 08:01pm PT


and there it is!!!...

the one and perhaps only, "Raspberry carbuncle"...

Oct 31, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
Now that the Pit is on a good path I have been working on Coyote Hole. Today I saw perhaps the most tragic thing I have ever seen.

After I had actually scrambled up some rocks( woohoo!) and finished the right canyon I ran into a boulderer.

(That was not tragic. Bear with me)

He said there was trash in the left canyon. This is what I found.
1. Crayons
2. A box for a baby stroller
3. Socks for a baby
4. Trash everywhere
5. Materials from a 7th or 8th grade class
6. Broken beer bottles

and a syringe

Lynn asked me why I left Santa Barbara. The house I was in there was finished. Everyone you meet there on the street was a CEO. Everyone was hugely educated.

There wasn’t a thing there for me to do.

It was pretty, sure.

But life isn’t only about pretty.

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
moving thru
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
Thanks for your info, jstan.

How great that you have chosen to move around this planet, to grow and broaden your life making this world we inhabit more lovely. Super example to many, showing that a persons life can continue to evolve as you try out new ideas.

Blessings, lynnie

Trad climber
Butte, America
Oct 31, 2012 - 09:41pm PT
Hey, dickcilley , we missed you up here this year--hopefully, you can come back and climb the dozen(s) of cracks that you missed...

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