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nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 25, 2012 - 05:31am PT
In spite of a great deal of research, I have never been able to know if there is (or was) a manufacturer of nuts or cams, that originate in Japan. I have been in touch with more than three hundred persons during the past twenty years but, unfortunately, none of them has been able to supply me with any genuine information. I am fortunate to get hold off an old and heavy “wall hauler” stamped “made in Japan” in my collection (with a lovely little pamphlet circa 70's) but this company, Alpine Top, seems not to be any longer in business.





In 1985, while visiting Chamonix, I also bought a Friend extractor made or marketed by Miyazaki.
I would be most grateful if some supertopians could help me with this specific research.

I have also enclosed a photograph of a tee nut made of steel, and discovered on eBay by Marty Karabin. The seller claimed that it was acquired in Japan… Maybe someone could tell me more about this mysterious nut…

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 25, 2012 - 05:47am PT
Hi Stephane! A Japanese take on the Titon - what a great find on Marty's part. It looks heavily influenced by horizontal placements with the bottom edge rolling and the top edge biting.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 05:54am PT
Bonjour Joseph! As always, you never sleep... Your greeting card is ready!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 25, 2012 - 05:58am PT
Look forward to it as always - wish I had more to contribute this past year, but between hot and heavy work projects and an extended healthcare crisis in the family climbing has been entirely off the agenda. There's always next year, though. Hope all is well with you and yours there in beautiful Ajaccio.

nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 06:15am PT
You have contributed so much to the Nuts Museum during all these past years…
And... Ajaccio is even much more beautiful than this photograph…
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 25, 2012 - 08:06am PT
Just have to get over there to see you some time.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 11:50am PT
Has anybody recognized the climber on the front cover of the little Alpine Top (in fact Tokyo Top) pamphlet...?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 25, 2012 - 11:56am PT
Has anybody recognized the climber on the front cover of the little Alpine Top (in fact Tokyo Top) pamphlet...?

Quelle droll! ;-) Peut-être Yvon Konichiwa?
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
NON!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Oct 25, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
Howdy from the USofA
That wallhualer looks great! Got any pics of it?
It looks like a better and stronger design then Dueces wallhualer.
If you ever want to come to JTree. Maybe we could do a house swap?

Jus Admire'in
BB
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2012 - 03:43am PT
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Oct 26, 2012 - 04:24am PT
Has anybody recognized the climber on the front cover of the little Alpine Top (in fact Tokyo Top) pamphlet...?

Judging from the sweater and mountain boots, I'd say it's Gaston Rebuffat.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2012 - 04:38am PT
You won!
crasic

climber
Oct 26, 2012 - 05:44am PT
Yeesh, in the left-most drawing on the descender it looks like you are liable to just come off the rope.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Oct 26, 2012 - 06:28am PT
Thanks for the contest and the cool photos and gear, Stephane.
My parents have a copy of Rebufatt's "On Snow and Rock", so those types of sweater photos are in my early memories!
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2012 - 07:03am PT
Yeesh, in the left-most drawing on the descender it looks like you are liable to just come off the rope.
I guess you may be right.
ELM !

climber
Near Boston
Oct 26, 2012 - 07:43am PT
Yeesh, in the left-most drawing on the descender it looks like you are liable to just come off the rope.
I guess you are right.

That may be the "Do not do this!" drawing
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
Would anybody know the meaning of this logo? In spite of a great deal of research on the Internet I have not managed to identify this Asian manufacturer. I tried various combinations with the letters, without any success. I suspect that they made (make?) cams and other climbing gear. Thank you for all your help!
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 09:34am PT
Bump...
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 09:57am PT
I bought the Friend extractor above at Snell Sports in Chamonix, in 1985. If I remember well the name that the seller mentioned to me about this device was Miyazaki. I wonder if it would not be Hideo Miyazaki, who did this route on the Grandes Jorasses:
Couloir central ou couloir japonais : Toku Nakano, Hideo Miyazaki, Kazuhide Seito, Yashuo Kato et Yashuo Kande, du 19 au 29 mars 1972 (ED-, 70º, Vº, A1).
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2014 - 05:00am PT
I would be most grateful to any Korean who could translate the following document to me. 1974 seems to be the date when this company started its business, as it predates the launch of the Friend by Wild Country. Very interesting stuff on this brochure.
Maldaly, have you ever heard of this manufacturer…?
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2014 - 09:51am PT
Bump...!!!
wallyvirginia

Trad climber
Stockholm, Sweden
Nov 21, 2014 - 10:29am PT
Very interesting!

I've been wondering curiously about Japanese gear too, as I'm generally a fan of Japanese engineering. I tried googling it years ago but came up empty handed.

Maybe this guy holds some answers?

http://iceclimbingjapan.com
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Nov 21, 2014 - 11:27am PT
I have asked a business friend in Korea to translate that for you. I will post the translation as soon as I have it.
ryanb

climber
Hamilton, MT
Nov 21, 2014 - 11:47am PT
I bootied a friend clone stamped "camrad" and "korea" at city of rocks many years ago. I don't still have it but recall it looking similar to the cams in the ad. I always thought the name was a bit funny for a region divided on communist/capitalist lines.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Nov 21, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
Someone else has Camrad cams: http://www.mountainproject.com/v/re-sling-my-camrad-slcds/106237313#a_106237446
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2014 - 12:45am PT
Ihateplastic, wallyvirginia, thank you very much for all your interest.
ryanb, skitch, to my knowledge, I do not believe that the Camrads were produced by the Korean “company” that I am looking for.

May I tell you the full story: Malcolm Daly has already kindly helped me a lot in my research. He has even contacted a Korean climber for me and forwarded me the following translation of the leaflet:

Spirited youth running towards to the future.
By adventure and challenge that is always with you.
Bakbong is waiting for meeting with climbers through the always constantly challenges of a new world.
Bakbong is the challenge space for people who want to know about climbing.
Bakbong has developed climbing gear since 1974.
Bakbong is pride of Korea by competitive equipment in the world.

In fact, it seems that Bakbong is a company with only one person. I tried several times to send messages to Malcolm’s Korean friend, but it did never work. I cannot send or receive emails from Korea with my computer…??? So, I would like to know the name of the person behind Bakbong, his whereabouts, and try to contact him to learn a little more on his amazing sliders and one cam devices.

Kind regards from the Nuts Museum
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Nov 28, 2014 - 06:38am PT
It seems our translations are similar:


The Young power for running to the future, there is always challenge and venture.

Bekbong is waiting the intelligent people who is brave by challenging to the world.

The challenged space and place--- Bekbong

This is the place for the people who wanted to know about climbing.


"Picture"


These equipments developed by Bekbong from 1974

This is the pride from Korea which is same quality as the famous global brand.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 28, 2014 - 07:09am PT
Where can I get a bakbong?
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2014 - 05:59am PT
Thank you Ihateplastic! The question now is: Bakbong or Bekbong...?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 29, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
Stephane- Hope made ice axes and crampons BITD. I wonder if they produced anything else in the way of hardware as the brand hasn't been mentioned so far. It is quite possible that the ice gear was imported too and so not made in Japan strictly speaking. I don't have any Hope gear to check stamps.
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