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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 13, 2012 - 01:38am PT
Down syndrome young man named homecoming king
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splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Oct 13, 2012 - 02:10am PT
All right. Had a lot of good friends that graduated from Crawford HS. New them since from elementary school days. I went to Herbert Hoover, which was the next closest San Diego HS from Crawford. Yes, good to hear that these kids heads are in the right place! thnx fer sharing!

edit: socialclimber - Eons ago, graduated 1968...might have crossed paths with some of your folks, eh? That's great, I didn't know you were from Diego Charles!
socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Oct 13, 2012 - 03:20am PT
Really rad! Splitter if you don't mind me asking, when did you go to Hoover? I graduated SDHS in 2000 and my moms side of the family has been in SD for ages...

Charles
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 13, 2012 - 10:16am PT
What a great story to wake up to this morning

Very very cool. There really is more good in the world than bad. That's why bad is usually what makes "news"

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Oct 13, 2012 - 11:44am PT
Since when does pity = good?

Seems like a pretty gratuitous act to me.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Oct 14, 2012 - 08:02am PT
What a coincidence.

On the way home from work yesterday I listened to a story on public radio about a disabled woman who was talking about about all of the spontaneous "good deeds" that people do for her because she is disabled.

Essentially, she said that all of these "good deeds" were "patronizing" and she didn't like it.

As a partially-disabled veteran, I have to agree. "Patronizing" is a good description.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 14, 2012 - 10:06am PT
Fair point perhaps. I can see your point.

Does and act help or hurt? Seems the best measuring stick in my mind.

Seems Ivan is pretty happy about it. Good enough for me.


Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 10:33am PT
I think this story says a lot about our changing attitudes on the developmentally disabled. When I was in high school mainstreaming did not exist. Th current generation takes a different view, they are not "uncomfortable" around downs syndrome kids. I agree with SLR, no disabled person wants to be patronized, treating them like anyone else is what they want.

Seems like Ivan was probablly a very upbeat happy guy, nonjudgmental and a friend to everyone. Certainly meets the criteria to be king in my book. These high school kids will start life with a better world view than many adults.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Oct 14, 2012 - 11:11am PT
While I can understand SLR's point of view, about patronizing people with 'disorders', I can also understand the altruism, if indeed there was, behind this story.

Jon, I can also see your sympathies by starting this thread but...

These high school kids will start life with a better world view than many adults.

I thought the same thing when I graduate from HS in 1974. That we were a new generation. Then I looked around to my fellow classmates/graduates, and realized, some of these people are the same ones who several years earlier made comments about my politics, length of hair (and holding me down to cut it, well, a couple of their older brother 'jocks' tried to, but I fought back), etc etc. I sort of 'sobered' up on that reflection.

(Jon, let's hope that you are right in that statement. But...)
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