TruckeeTrustafari
Social climber
GLACIER WAY
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 9, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
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After a nice climb up the MEGA classic Epinephrine at Red Rocks yesterday, I was disheartened to encounter TRASH ont he desccnt. A homie of mine took me up it for the first time and we were astounded, as he is a RR local and solos the route all the time.
Someone left a bunch of REFLECTIVE TAPE on the descent. NOT COOL! We cleaned up what we could but what gives? Am I msising out on something? WEAK SAUCE!
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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I'll bet many a group has passed that way, out of gas and coasting on fumes, and all manner of atrocities committed under the wishful assumption that darkness covers all.
Not me though! I was fortunate enough to come off that thing a decade ago in daylight, after a shiver-bivy waiting for sunrise on the crumbling ledges of some wrong descent slope.
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Jeremy
Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
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Least they didn't leave drilled heads and wooden wedges.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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First post, FaroukTroll???????????????????????????????????
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Was it possibly to do with a search or rescue? They sometimes leave flagging and such.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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There was a rescue fairly recently on Epi, a party got off route and called in after they were benighted. LVMPDSAR had to hoist them out which took a good part of the night to do.
http://lvmpdsar.blogspot.com/2012/07/epinephrine-all-nighter.html
While I don't know if the reflective tape that you found was related, there is a good chance that it was. Thanks for cleaning it up and helping out.
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Hmm, I'm calling weaksauce on a rescue call just because it's getting dark. OK rain and sleet without jackets or any waterproof stuff could justify it, but seriously dudes. Just carrying a space blanket would make it so you were miserable but not needing a rescue.
Is it OK to call for a rescue if you are not injured? Is it considered reckless to go on a 10+ pitch climb and not be prepared for 1 night of basic survival in whatever weather?
How many people these days can tell the difference between "I'M GONNA DIE" versus "BRR IT'S COLD AND UNCOMFORTABLE AND SUCKS BUT THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT STORY TOMORROW"
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Sacramento
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Yes crazy,
They should haul it all to the top and then toss it to the bottom. Of course then someone might booty your reflective tape and empty beer cans.
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mountain dog
Trad climber
over the hills and far away
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Seems like an unneeded rescue. If not injured bad, weak.
I have endured 2 unplanned forced bivys in my day. Myself and partners were very cold, thirsty, and hungry but we knew the sun would be up in a few hours and we could get on the move again. Part of the adventure.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
the secret topout on the Chockstone Chimney
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MFers need to cowboy up and wait fer daylight! If you can't do the climb, do the time...
Jeezum crow.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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ST'ers need to learn to recognize a FaroukTroll when they see one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Meh. Troll, yeah but still worth delving into just to see the responses in this particular case.
About two weeks before this, SAR had to rescue three young men, 18, 19, and 20, who had become hopelessly lost and had no supplies at all.
They were hiking in Icebox Canyon. How one gets lost in a box canyon, I still can't figure out. Especially one that has traffic like a cattle trail.
All in a day's outdoor enjoyment in Red Rock. I once saw a woman that had to be heli lifted to the parking lot because she hiked down the trail less then a quarter mile, down about a 150 foot hill, and couldn't walk back up it again.
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Prod
Trad climber
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So how hard is it to route find on Epi? I've read a few threads over the years about people getting off route? Looks pretty straight forward when eyeing the route from down canyon. Heading to Vegas in a few weeks and plan on getting on it.
Prod.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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There are a couple spots where you can get off fairly easily. Sucker bail slings don't help but I think those are gone now.
Get the Handren guide, and stop by Desert Rock Sports - they have a laminated one route mini topo you can clip on your harness, they are kinda handy sometimes. Has the topo on one side and a full color picture with markers on the other.
Let me know if you want to grab some beers, Prod. I'm on doctor forced reserve atm, so all I am doing is gym right now.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Follow the ridge until it ENDS, then drop down to the hikers left. At that point, I remember there being a well worn climbers trail. Not so much along the ridge itself.
Scoping it a couple days beforehand is useful. It is very easy to get suckered down into what look like gullies that go before you get to the actual descent point. It takes awhile, maybe 25 minutes(?) of scrambling along the ridge from the true summit before you start heading down. In the dark it could suck especially if you've not done it before.
Plenty of places to hunker down until daybreak though. Some people might find calling for a rescue a tempting option given the city lights are right there. Kind of lame if weather is fine though.
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TruckeeTrustafari
Social climber
GLACIER WAY
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2012 - 10:08pm PT
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Not kidding, there was tape on the descent - fresh yesterday! Definitely not from old rescue.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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maybe somebody can paint some rocks on the descent with some glow in the dark paint. That would be super sweet.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Yeahhh...no thanks. I have spent dozens of hours sandblasting and cleaning off paint with a wire brush in RR. Not fun.
And the party that got rescued was on the wall still, not on the descent. There is a reason I carry a space blanket and extra food on multis.
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TruckeeTrustafari
Social climber
GLACIER WAY
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
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LOLZ, yea, it reminded me of Shirley canyon when Squaw Valley corp spray painted blue arrows all along the slabs to keep tourons on trail.
asked vegas bud who i climbed it with if this was NORMAL. He said no and was NOT PUMPED!!!!!
VERDICT = WEAAAAAKSAUCE!!!!!!!!
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