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Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2012 - 02:30am PT
When I lived in Mammoth, the most dangerous drivers were the ones with 4WD SUVs. It made being a pedestrian a dangerous thing in the winter.

Oct 25, 2012 - 03:58am PT
I think that Big Mike passed me on the highway just over an hour or so ago.

Welcome home boys, glad you had an awesome trip! Love that corner crack at the happies, with that thumb up lock it is sooo fun. Solarium too. Can't believe you guys didn't hit in & out in Carson & went for casino scetti instead!
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 05:28am PT
Ryand-Relic was set on it and I didn't get my in-n-out this trip!! Dammit!!!!!!

Gotta go back let's go!!!!!

Wayno- Weekenders!! ;)

John m- Thanks. I should have thought of Anders tactic when the other lane was closed all the way and I could have easily pulled over...

Around here they decided they don't want to designate the sea to sky a mountain highway so chain controls aren't mandatory although maybe they should be... We have quite a few accidents every winter on the Sea to Sky....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 25, 2012 - 08:12am PT
"it's only Canada. But at least there's snow."--Snow-Shovel Face and the Elves

That's a post from the dynamite thread by eKat, *IT'S SNOWING* http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1959886&tn=40

Tim is my younger bro and has had a chainer's permit for at least twenty-five years. He loves the way the system works and he has no time for jerks.

He is full of smart-ass stories about loser drivers who think they can even handle a car let alone drive one in the car-swallowing drifts which caused the State to post this latest "chains mandatory" alert/warning/joke.

But like the CHP said, "Keep it moving, please."

Reality STV: It's better than Snookie!

Ice climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 08:22am PT
Yeah Mike sorry its the California low Sierra legends who drive those rear wheel drive cars with chains on the from tires who f*#k it up for all of us.

You should hear my wife tell the stories she drives Reno to truckee everyday and has seen about every fubar driving bs you can imagine.

Right after chain control and just down the road take that sh#t off and drive like normal mountain people.

I look forward to your next visit it was great to meet you guys.


Social climber
Vancouver, BC
Oct 25, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
I can't wait to come back eastside. Such a great trip. It was so nice to meet you guys. Wayno and Silver were total stand up guys. Thanks for helping us out so much. You guys rule!

Oct 25, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
Around here they decided they don't want to designate the sea to sky a mountain highway so chain controls aren't mandatory although maybe they should be... We have quite a few accidents every winter on the Sea to Sky....

Thats not true, in fact there is no highway out of Van that is not designated winter tire or chains required. I have seen folks turned around before, you either need the mountain snowflake symbol or chains on Sea to sky.

Welcome home
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2012 - 03:18am PT
Actually Hoser you're wrong.

**Mountain highway designation likely dead

Would have required snow tires on Sea to Sky at all times
by Andrew Mitchell | October 15, 2010**

A resolution to designate the Sea to Sky Highway as a mountain highway has been bouncing around since 2003, but after it received no support at the recent Union of B.C. Municipalities convention in Whistler, the resolution is likely dead.

"This was our last ditch attempt," said Mayor Ken Melamed.

Melamed said the original call for the mountain highway designation was in 2003 after a series of blizzards and accidents that shut down the highway for hours. Stakeholders, including Sea to Sky communities, the Squamish-Lillooet Regional District, RCMP and highway contractors asked for a resolution in support of mountain highway status to prompt the province to intervene. Melamed said the UBCM's support could have helped, but it would have been the Government of B.C.'s decision whether to support that resolution.

Among other things, a mountain highway designation would make it easier for authorities to close the road to vehicles without snow tires or chains during snowstorms or when snow is on the ground or in the forecast. It also makes it easier to close the highway for plows if necessary.

While there was some concern that a mountain highway designation could hamper the number of visitors to Whistler from areas like Vancouver and Seattle where snow is a rarity, those rules would only apply during certain conditions.

"The question was asked if this would have been a barrier for people to get to Whistler, but my understanding is that most people in the resort and tourism sector were in favour of greater safety on the highway," said Melamed. "There was a period in the past where the highway was closed up to six hours at a time with multiple crashes on icy roads.

"The reality is that, over years of trying to explore this, the mountain highway designation is not something that is easy to achieve or thought to be the best solution - and there was no support from the Ministry of Transportation."

More here:

I've lived here on the coast for most of my life and whistler for fifteen years so I have some clue what I'm talking about. They do chain controls sometimes when it's really bad but it's not mandatory that they do and a lot of people run into trouble when they come up and it's nice, then the weather changes on them on the way back down as there are never chain controls leaving Whistler.

Our plowing setup is amazing too, I've driven bare pavement on the sea to sky and then jumped on the ferry to the island and been sketched out by the other drivers on super icy roads, because they don't have enough plows and it doesn't usually snow there very

Thanks for the bump buddy!
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
First of all, I must say, I would like to echo Ryand's sentiments...


ok ok.. I said I had more pics and I do! Here are the rest of those cool sunrise shots....

And we got to play in the Buttermilks a bit on Tuesday which I quite enjoyed.

More on that, a bit later....


Oct 28, 2012 - 01:43am PT
Yeah Big Mike, it's pretty nice over there. Im squandering in a post eastside hangover still. Free to do as u please more or less & the dinosaur eggs are pretty fun to play on too. Does this mean we'll see u in the boulders this winter when the snows shlt & the friction is all time??? Put that reach to use!
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2012 - 02:03am PT
Relic sending...


Super cool patina problem

I ran up this one it was super fun!


Hero Roof

Relic pulls the arete


Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Oct 28, 2012 - 02:03am PT

Big Mike, Thanks for the fun trip report and all the cool/ beautiful pictures....
Come back to California anytime....

Did you feel the quake?
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2012 - 02:18am PT
Nita- no not here in whistler. I heard a lot of people in Squamish did though.

Ryand- I'm down! Maybe fly into Vegas?? ;) mmm Red Rocks!!!

Khanom- yeah chains.... Great tool, there is a time and place for it for sure.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Oct 28, 2012 - 02:22am PT
Mike - I'm just jumping on the plane tomorrow!

Abandon yer job! come on down!
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2012 - 02:24am PT
sooo tempting!! ;)

Oct 28, 2012 - 03:03am PT
BK can't wait for that Rostrum TR! You gonna keep this thread alive for us while your there??

I almost wish I would have went down later this year since it rained here a total of zero days while I was gone. Almost.

Only time I've ever headed south & it was sunny when I left & when I came back, so weird.

Big Mike, perhaps I should have been more clear- THE SQUAMISH BOULDERS!!!

Puffy jackets & tea & hopefully Relic too. Who knows maybe even Luke if he's had his share of suffering yet.

That said I was thinking of a little 3-4 day mission this winter to clip a few in RR, we'll talk.

Awesome photos btw! This thread has been entertaining to say the least.

Trad climber
ontario canada
Oct 28, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Relic and Big Mike,glad you had a great trip-

Luke-i was going as fast as i could up there,to make it sound like i was making no effort to keep up is just not true.i dont want what happened to ruin an otherwise great climb.i was still haulling the previous linked pitchs when you announced you were leaving in ten minutes from 2 pitchs above-after asking me to tag you the lead line witch was my anchor.had you have waited at p 30 rather than racing off we would have finished together with the gear before the storm hit.as it was-with 2 traversing pitchs to clean-a haul to finish and a stuck tag line-i felt it better[safer]to wait for light-and you agreed to meet me in the morning.i got hit hard that night and in retrospect i should have done whatever i could to get off that night even if you were already gone.this being said-i have no hard feelings-mistakes were made.I made mistakes-i wish you and Aislin all the best-when you write your tr,let it reflect on the good things about our experience-again-I wish you well Doug

Trad climber
Oct 28, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
Doug - We wanna hear more! Would be good to hear about it from your side. Luke hasn't given us anything. What happened?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Oct 28, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
Thanks for posting Doug, it's a good thing you made it out in one piece!
Big Mike

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2012 - 12:46am PT
Ryand- Squamish Boulders eh? hmm.. ;) Definetly have one score to settle..

ya ya Red rocks.. so down. maybe a classic trad multi too?

Doug- Wow. Please do tell us more. It would be nice to hear it from the horse's mouth as it were.
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