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climber
north fork
Oct 24, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
What a trip. Thanks for all the pics and the running TR. Anytime you guys are back in Cali, you're welcome at my house. Come check out Soyo.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2012 - 05:39pm PT
Cool Justin! Watch out I will take you up on that!!!

Jumping on the plane now. Damn I don't wanna leave!!!!
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Oct 24, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
Please stay.......

This has been a most entertaining trip.

Thanks
Silver

Ice climber
Oct 24, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
It was great having breakfast with mike and relic this morning. Some serious good guys here and a real pleasure to have met you both.

Safe journeys home guys and look forward to your next visit.

Peace
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 12:11am PT
Ya Silver!!!!! So good to meet you dude!!! Next time I'm buying!!! Should seen donner pass what a joke! I've never put chains on with less than 6 inches of snow. They made us put them on for wet pavement!!!! Retarded!!!
chill

climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
Oct 25, 2012 - 12:45am PT
They made us out them on for wet pavement!!!! Retarded!!!
I don't think there is any contest here, when it comes to dealing with snow the Canucks are going to beat us every time!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 01:04am PT
Sh!t blew my mind!!!! Chains are a hazard on wet pavement they slide way more than rubber?? Who the heck is running that show????
John M

climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:10am PT
there are a number of problems in the Sierras. The conditions change very quickly and there are so many drivers who don't know how to drive in winter conditions because they live in a place that never gets snow. How much snow does the bay area get? haha.. It is not uncommon for the conditions to change and in 20 minutes they have 30 or 40 or even more accidents and the road can be closed for 2,3,4 or more hours. So they tend to error on the side of caution to keep the road open. Thats why people who live in the mountains opt for 4 wheel drives with snow tires. No need for chains.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:11am PT
Easy there Michael. You're a guest in their country, and you shouldn't make fun of them.

I know that's an impossible task, but you should at least try.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 01:20am PT
I've done pretty good so far... Just couldn't resist that one. Seriously felt way sketch with chains on wet pavement.... Sorry we missed you tonight Dave!!!

I have winter tires on my ride here for the same reason but obviously am not going to get that on a rental in Sacramento... They told me I wasn't allowed to put chains on their car and that I should have waited it out or got an awd.. WTF????
John M

climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:27am PT
I would hate to be the person who decides chain control on 80. You can't win. If you leave the control sign off and conditions change, then you have 50 accidents and the experienced drivers complain because they are sitting on the side of the road. If you put the control sign up and the conditions change back to wet roads then everyone complains. They need two roads. One for experienced snow drivers and one for the rest, but even that wouldn't work. I can't tell you how many people come to the park with snow driving experience and wreck.

"we are from back east. we drive in the snow all the time. we didn't think that we needed chains".

It snows 8 inches in 30 minutes and CRASH.. 35 accidents. Half of them with drivers who "know how to drive in the snow".

you can't win.. so you complain on a forum.. haha
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 01:41am PT
Totally. I get it. We have the same problem on the sea to sky with Vancouver drivers and probably should do more chain controls....
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:46am PT
What about hillbilly controls, for country folk coming into the city? Not quite sure what we'd make them do, but anything so they get with the program and drive like normal city beings. Psychotic pedal to the metal tailgating redlight running pedestrian disregarding unsignalling freaks.

I got stopped at chain control on I-5 north of Redding once. What a fuss! I had four new snow tires and BC plates, but they still made me put on my chains. I took them off about five km upp the road, and toodled gently on my way.

Some of those little places must make a ton on flogging overpriced chains, tows, and so on in the winter. Good for them!
John M

climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:47am PT
Glad you had a good trip. Other then the chain controls.. which we by the way put up specifically for Canadians. There is a special symbol that they put up so that Californians know when the chain control sign is for real. Maybe next trip I will let you in on it. But first we had to see how you behaved on this trip.. heh heh..
John M

climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 01:48am PT
MH.. its the hillbillies that stop on the on ramps and don't know how to merge that bug me the most. Plus doing 45 mph in the fast lane..
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2012 - 02:30am PT
When I lived in Mammoth, the most dangerous drivers were the ones with 4WD SUVs. It made being a pedestrian a dangerous thing in the winter.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Oct 25, 2012 - 03:58am PT
I think that Big Mike passed me on the highway just over an hour or so ago.

Welcome home boys, glad you had an awesome trip! Love that corner crack at the happies, with that thumb up lock it is sooo fun. Solarium too. Can't believe you guys didn't hit in & out in Carson & went for casino scetti instead!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 05:28am PT
Ryand-Relic was set on it and I didn't get my in-n-out this trip!! Dammit!!!!!!

Gotta go back let's go!!!!!

Wayno- Weekenders!! ;)

John m- Thanks. I should have thought of Anders tactic when the other lane was closed all the way and I could have easily pulled over...

Around here they decided they don't want to designate the sea to sky a mountain highway so chain controls aren't mandatory although maybe they should be... We have quite a few accidents every winter on the Sea to Sky....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 25, 2012 - 08:12am PT
"it's only Canada. But at least there's snow."--Snow-Shovel Face and the Elves

That's a post from the dynamite thread by eKat, *IT'S SNOWING* http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1959886&tn=40

Tim is my younger bro and has had a chainer's permit for at least twenty-five years. He loves the way the system works and he has no time for jerks.

He is full of smart-ass stories about loser drivers who think they can even handle a car let alone drive one in the car-swallowing drifts which caused the State to post this latest "chains mandatory" alert/warning/joke.

But like the CHP said, "Keep it moving, please."

Reality STV: It's better than Snookie!
Silver

Ice climber
Oct 25, 2012 - 08:22am PT
Yeah Mike sorry its the California low Sierra legends who drive those rear wheel drive cars with chains on the from tires who f*#k it up for all of us.

You should hear my wife tell the stories she drives Reno to truckee everyday and has seen about every fubar driving bs you can imagine.

Right after chain control and just down the road take that sh#t off and drive like normal mountain people.

I look forward to your next visit it was great to meet you guys.

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