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The Granite State.
Oct 6, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
Unleaded in France is going for around $9/gal. Diesel is only slightly less.

Perhaps the lack of outcry from Europe is due to an efficient transportation infrastructure.

31 years in Joshua Tree, now Alaska
Oct 6, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
$4.33 a gallon in Soldotna, Alaska. It has gone up 20 cents this week and we are not affected by the lack of California gasoline.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 6, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
Best info I can get on France gas tax is $4.23/gallon. That is from 2010 and does not include eurozone taxes.

USA federal tax for 2010 was $.39

The cost of Gas in the USA without taxes or speculative inflation in the should be under $2.00.

Remember when the markets crashed in 2008 Gas came down to about 1.70 a gallon. Some of that (a very small part) was due to reduced demand the rest due to crashed market speculation.

We are getting ripped by wall street so many ways it's pathetic..

Makes a great train robbery look like a 5 year old pocketing a kids toy.


The Granite State.
Oct 6, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
Not crediting this link, but it's what I found.


Social climber
Oct 6, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
hey there say, all....

ohmy, you knowwwwwwwwwww, i do not even KNOW what the gas prices are here... :O

i just go to the nearest one, as they are about the same, so everyone says here...

i put in my 3-4 bucks worths, depending... however, on rare occasions i DO put in 5 bucks, :) and then--it seems i usually have about an 8th of a tank, though sometimes when i can put gas in before i am near empty, i DO
have a neat full 1/4 tank... >:D<

i only need to drive a few blocks, as i really don't have many spots to go to... (the grandkids have to come here on their folks rides) :)

so i do okay--however, the ex son in law, and those in 'the know' did say that in winter that is not good for the car, and i should have at least a
half a tank, so i may be thinking on doing that this year, :)


good thing my old block to walk patty ann marie in, and the grocery (with mail service), dollar store, and home depot, and walgreens, and--gas station, :)) are all veryyyyyyyyyyyyy close indeed, :)
Captain...or Skully

Oct 6, 2012 - 10:25pm PT
I'm with you, NeeBee. Having things close by is handy, & I can & do bike to many places around.
Man, petrol is pricey out there, huh?

the last bivy
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:29pm PT
what.. no theories? Have you Noticed! the gas prices went up the night of the debates? Remember the Bush election? gas prices skyrocketed then too just before big media events trashing the dems. we're just the masses being manipulated.
Jebus H Bomz

Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
Yeah, well we invest a lot of boots on the ground to leverage our prices, Lolli. Extortion ain't always cheap.

Social climber
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
Gas prices are also cheaper in Venezuela ....

Here in Vancouver, I paid 1.33CAD per litre yesterday and today they were everything from 1.36 to 1.41/l

The translation of that to YankBux and USGals is a non-starter fer me.


Social climber
So Cal
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Thanks to the enviroNazis the regulatory climate has been such that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the US in years and many shut down.

This has led to a brittle supply chain subject to shortage from what would be insignificant upsets if there were even a slight amount of excess capacity.

One electrical transformer shuts down one refinery in Torrance Ca and it starts a cascading shortage for the whole west coast.

Refining is not a high margin business. Those guys squeeze a penny till it shits a nickel. It's also incredibly capital intensive and not without plenty of both natural and artificial regulatory risk.

Same kind of event happened after Katrina with a lot longer effect. That one also skewed the petrochemical / plastics markets for months.

If you can avoid filling up till Tuesday it will be worth the wait. Torrance is back on line.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:52pm PT
It's an international market folks and half what you are paying in the uSA and Canada goes to Wall street

In Eu a massive proportion goes to state taxes and about 1/4 goes to wall street

The sheep will be fleeced for all they have up to the point of armed conflict as best the masters can guess what that is. Even then they calculate how much armed conflict they can survive

Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 7, 2012 - 12:50am PT
Dweeb- It thought you were a pony guy... not a troll ;)

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2012 - 01:30am PT
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Pony/troll half-breed. The future of affordable transportation in California.

Social climber
Oct 7, 2012 - 02:11am PT
Tami, that'd be $ 5,98 per gallon.

Takk, Lolli!

You guys stop whinin' 'bout gas prices under five bux. 'Kay?

Then again, what is your min wage compared to it ?
Ours is 10.25$/hr in BC. That was a recent jump from 8.50$/hr

Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 7, 2012 - 02:33am PT
Dweeb where do you come up with that sh%t?? ;)

Oct 8, 2012 - 11:45am PT
Someone has pointed out how gas prices leapt at about the time of the first debate.

Let's just suppose gas prices are in fact being manipulated. There are laws against anticompetitive action.

Also the Citizens United decision by the supreme court has ruled that corporations are people. That being the case we don't need to establish what physical person(s) within a corporation made a decision.

If we had a RICO-like criminal decision against a corporation how would criminal penalties be applied? When you put a person in jail you take away their power to make decisions. The same can be done to a corporate/person.

The court appoints a person(s) to make all management decisions for the corporation for a period of time. The corporation is in jail.

Financial penalties levied against a monopoly have no effect. Prices are simply raised so profits are unaffected. The natural persons inside the corporation are entirely unaffected.

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
Financial penalties levied against a monopoly have no effect. Prices are simply raised so profits are unaffected. The natural persons inside the corporation are entirely unaffected.
In the words of Big Macintosh,


Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Oct 8, 2012 - 06:16pm PT
I gotta head back on Wed, to my second home in Calif for the next
Couple of weeks to work.

I'm dreading paying for gas there. Gas sure is a lot cheaper here in Vegas.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 8, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
Until this morning, I hadn't set foot in California for a month.

I filled up at Last Chance Gas in Oregon, but before long it ran out.

Then I was subjected to the Four Jesus Fillup.

"Jesus Jesus Jesus" when I saw the price per gallon, and another "Jesus" when I saw it was $40+ for nine gallons.

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 8, 2012 - 09:54pm PT
I saw a "Gas was $1.69 a gallon when Obama took office" bumper sticker a couple of days ago. I was going to say something to the guy whose car it was on but i assumed he was retarded if he believed the sticker so didn 't bother..
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