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'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 5, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
Dear McTopo and Yosemite climbing community,

I am approaching you-all today with my helmet in my hand and my tail between my legs*, and with an Olive Branch of King Cobras extended towards you.

I want you to know that I have read every single word each of you has written. I have heard your words loudly, and I have heard your words clearly. And I want you to know with certainty that I will obey your words. You have helped me to realize the gravity of the situation. Emphatically, I "get it" - the Tribe has spoken, with clarity and without ambiguity, and in fact even unanimously - a rare thing round here. You have shown me what is no longer acceptable behaviour. Please know that the person helping me did so only with significant arm twisting on my behalf.

I appreciate Tom holding me accountable. Sometimes I have a hard time viewing the world from outside my own eyes, and I needed a good swift kick in the ass to wake me up. You can count on me in the future to pay the price of finishing up the wall in proper style.

Sincerely,
Pete

* Dang, 200+ posts of flamage. I feel as though you guys have reamed me a second @sshole. It hurts. I'd better go buy you some more beers for the bridge....
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:34pm PT
Apology accepted. CASE DISMISSED.
klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:38pm PT
So is Pete still kicked off the island?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:41pm PT
Pete i'll still hump loads for you at $20.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
Wonderfully written and sincere sounding apology!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
PTPP, yer mea tossa is accepted.
Have a nice Thanksgiving Monday! :-)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
Awesome. I did no reamage, I only said to come up with the U.S. Grant to pay a starving camp 4 dude....

We used to toss in broad daylight, but we would yell ROCK for a full minute and then the hammock made tons of noise on the way down.
locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:56pm PT

Nicely written and it appears sincere to me, too...

briham89

Big Wall climber
los gatos. ca
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
Right on
Jolly Roger

Trad climber
here and there
Oct 5, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
Thank you.

I would delete my thread if I knew how.

Jeremy

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
We used to toss in broad daylight

You disgust me Bruce...keep that sh#t to yourself you sick f*#k.

WOO HOO!!

;-)
jstan

climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
Pete:
For more than a decade the Park Service and a very large number of climbers have been learning to work together. What you did and what the other recent incident has done is to put us all in a very bad position. What is the Park Service to say if it happens again and someone is hurt?

If you were in their position, what would you do?

This is the question each and every climber now needs to ask themselves.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
Jolly, just go to your thread. click on your first post and hit delete,,poof all is gone.
neversummer

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:09pm PT
Good on you...
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
Don't do it, Jolly Roger
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
Thanks Pete! Sorry for calling you a "wanker".
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:14pm PT
A+ for PTPP!!!
Jolly Roger

Trad climber
here and there
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:16pm PT
It is kind of fun, maybe I'll leave it for a bit.


Ditto on the "Wanker" comment. Just having fun.
Spanky

Social climber
boulder co
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
Thanks for the apology and admitting you made a mistake. That takes guts. Its important that we hold ourselves to high standards of conduct and safety and tossing is part of it. no hard feelings on my end.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
PtPP you're such a tosser!

But hey, it's not like you were tea-bagging anyone right?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
So PTPP, how many times does this make in the past six years.....






Be honest now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Ta74EJAz8]
Levy

Big Wall climber
So Cal
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
Sheesh Pete, you had to know that one day you might get called out for tossing haulbags. It's not like it's the first time you ever tossed your bags off the top.

Apology accepted. Now just don't toss yer pigs anymore & everything will be fine.
thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Oct 5, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
I for one think you're selfish and reckless, and ignorant to act like you only realize after being publicly called out , the danger and carelessness of tossing your sh#t show off El Cap.

It's no secret that it's illegal and quite obviously dangerous. I think you deserve to be charged and made an example of.

Sincerly,

Luke Cormier
BASE1361

climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
Sounds like an admission of guilt and a ticket with hefty fine should result with such illegal activity.
He should be tazer'd
fined 2k
locked in jail for 1 week
car impounded
and kicked out of the USA and NPS

locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:03pm PT


"and a Partridge in a Peartree"...

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
Just tie him to a chair and let Lobo mace him once.
locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:27pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#266658
...


Silver

Ice climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:31pm PT
Rumor has it that Thursdays at the Deli 6:30 pm a secrete society of Tossers meet to discuss the good old days of Tossing it.

Consider this support group and thanks Pete for being a man and owning your actions.



Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
Ah yes, the Secret Order of The Toss.

Now you know how we got the term "old sotts".
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Oct 5, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
Pigs are BAD!
But at least it wasn't a...































































k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 5, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
^^^^^^^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 5, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
Never ruin an apology with an excuse.






Nicely done PtPP.






As for retroaction and punishment, com'on, can't we try to keep this one within the community?? Maybe not with our friends the Climbing Rangers reading. However, the idea of punishment is rehab, and seems to me there has already been a changed attitude. My 2c ...
hootowl

Mountain climber
VA
Oct 5, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
Thank you for getting it Pete. Now for that Erik guy.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 5, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
Well said Pete.

Good to hear. I don't really care what happened in the past. What's done is done and no one got hurt fortunately.

My only concern ever was that it just not happen again. No sense taking unnecessary chances with the lives of folks who get no choice in the matter.

Problem solved. Community working as it should. No need for the tools to get involved.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
What's neat about this is that there is such an obvious way to make amends for endangering people by avoiding humping haul-bags down El Cap!
labrat

Trad climber
Nevada City, CA
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
Yay! Nicely written Pete.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
Good on you, ya clumsy f
Sorry, I meant hack. Is he still a hack?

Later on, in the confessional:

Fr. Roper: Pete, Can you spell d e f e n e s t r a t i o n ?
PTPP: No, Father. Does this mean I'll burn in hell?
Fr. Roper: No, Pete, it doesn't. I can't spell it myself. It's a pig of a word.
PTPP: I can spell p i g Father. Want me to toss it off for ya?
Fr. Roper: Sure. Then go in peace and serve the Lord.
--Scurrilous Tails of the Hanta Virus Outbreak in 2912

And so it goes.
The legend grows.
Despite the woes
Of Supertacos.

Edit: Sorry myself, MP.

dipper

climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
Nicely done PtPP,

While at the summit, preparing to toss that gear which now seems too heavy to haul down, has it ever crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe you started out with one or two items too many?

This guy might have some useful tips...

http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Backpacking-Jardines-Lightweight-Hiking/dp/0963235931
nick d

Trad climber
nm
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
Sorry?

Yeah, sorry you got outed. Wasn't like it was the first time you've been called on this. Your apology is just dripping with crocodile tears of insincerity.

Pass the H*#*@# Pete! (transmissable by tossing, according to published reports)
MudPuppy

Trad climber
Gliese 581 g
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
I know most of you here don't give a damn what I think...
...but
it seems like it's time to turn the page until/unless PtPP gets caught tossing his crap again. He did a pretty good job of eating crow for now.
Time to move on. . .
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
Good to see you were man enough to admit you were wrong and apologized.

I hope you aren't (or won't) doing that stupid wallflower B.S. anymore and are hauling your sh#t down too.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
I never really cared. Do as you will.
msiddens

Trad climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
way nice- happy outcome
Grampa

climber
from SoCal
Oct 5, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
+1 for PtPP
+1 for Supertopo
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Oct 5, 2012 - 06:14pm PT

Interesting perspective:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1231312
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 5, 2012 - 06:15pm PT
Nicely done Pete. Nicely done.
Gene

climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
Read the link in Mastadon's post - it's about climbers hucking trash and poop bags.

An interesting post from Pete:
Unbelievable in this day and age! Had this been during the spring or fall wall season, the culprits would have been caught because so many people are around the wall. Too bad Tom Evans wasn't around with his telescope.

&

{SNIP}I am certainly more in favour of we climbers policing ourselves, which surely would have been the case during regular Wall Season when the base is normally crawling with wall rats.{SNIP}
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 5, 2012 - 06:27pm PT
And as I noticed Pete thanked Tom for putting the pressure on himself in this thread.

We can all get stuck in our own heads and habits.. sometimes it takes your community and friends to give ya a swift kick in the ass to clear the blinders.
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:30pm PT
Happy to see the apology.

Rumor has it you were slated for the up and coming new show that Simon Cowell has created called American Pariah. Appears Simon was to make a once only exception for a Canadian.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:37pm PT
We know that vigilant moderation is a necessary evil in an on-line community such as this, and sometimes threads do get out of control, cross the "imaginary line" and must be terminated, and members need to be occasionally chastised and disciplined as well for their irresponsible behavior.

It may take a small amount of getting used to, as we do have reasonable standards as far as language and image posting that are strictly enforced. The registration is easy and painless, and the rules will be explained in detail during the process.


Shut the f*#k up, cockbreath.



-JR

We don't need no stinking rules! We like it here.
Gene

climber
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
(edit) RE: Greg @ post:

^^^^ Now that's funny! ^^^^

Well done.
Matt

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:46pm PT
i am not the NPS air drop police, but i will just advise anyone out there who pays attention over time, be aware that character is a measure of what people will do when nobody is looking, not so much a measure of hoe they respond when they are busted or called out in public.

cheers.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
Greg @ --- Troll of the Month award.


Thank you Pete. See you on the Friday night thread.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 5, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
I will warn you however up front that registering an ALIAS and/or "trolling" is strictly "VERBOTEN", and something we have zero-tolerance with. If you are tired of the juvenile behavior here at Supertopo and yearn for a responsible climbing forum that matches your maturity level, all I can say is: "Come join the fun"! :)

Haha, but as greg @ shows you can always try a weak troll here at the taco.

rocket scientist

Trad climber
Logan, UT
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Shut the f*#k up, cockbreath.



-JR

We don't need no stinking rules! We like it here.

Whooooosh.

Greg, you are a legend.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2829584
burntheman

Trad climber
slt
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:10pm PT
good on you for apologizing! it takes a BIG MAN! we forgive you for almost killing an innocent climber!!

it's like when you guys got all hot and bothered when a guy admitted to shitting on ropes twenty years later. you guys almost Knighted him.


compromised principles.
Tom is the one you should be commending.

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:13pm PT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:35pm PT
We forgive you ptpp!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

(uuugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

So yall accepted ptpp's press release. So the f*#k what!? Feel better now? Got outraged over some distant sh#t you had nothing whatsoever to do with, and now you get your prostrate stroked by a sales pitch.

F*#k you ptpp.

DMT
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
it's called passive/aggressive; dontcha know?
Prezwoodz

climber
Anchorage
Oct 5, 2012 - 09:56pm PT
Good on ya Pete. Keep your word and the world will be a happier place. :)
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 5, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
Who thinks this makes up for how ever many bag tosses PTPP has under his belt?
(If he were an American, he'd be a typical white republicon business person… doesn't like regulation)

I say with climbing, much like in comedy, you're only as good as your last show…. and Pete's last show sucked ass because of the bag toss.
None of this has any effect on me personally; I'm not going to vista the base of El Cap anytime PTPP gets done with a climb, I'm not even going into the park when PTPP is anywhere near the place…
But when I think abut the possibility of what could happen and how completely idiotic that action would be it makes me sick.

You're not of the hook until we/I have evidence of you carrying bags to the base.
Honestly, I'm not totally sure that this is even possible but that would be when I have a different view of the exceptional waller I know as PTPP from Supertopo.
elcap-pics

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Oct 5, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
Thanks Pete, that is all we ever wanted. You are still a wanker though ;)
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Oct 5, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
Dingus said:
..." and now you get your prostrate stroked by a sales pitch."

Well, some people will pay extra for that but we get it free here on Supertopo Dingus.
MudPuppy

Trad climber
Gliese 581 g
Oct 5, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
You're not of the hook until we/I have evidence of you carrying bags to the base.

Give it a rest, turn the page. He's off (not "of") the hook until he tosses a pig again. It was stupid--nobody should ever chuck anything off a cliff. Luckily, nobody was hurt.

Time to move on, to direct the hate elsewhere . . . There's plenty of it and plenty of places for it go on the forum.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Oct 5, 2012 - 11:09pm PT
an Olive Branch of King Cobras

make it a quality single malt and it's all good
slobmonster

Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
Oct 5, 2012 - 11:19pm PT
I had a girlfriend, once, who justified her infidelity with this line:

"I'd rather ask forgiveness, than for permission."

I called BS.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Oct 5, 2012 - 11:33pm PT
Strikes me as being the equivalent of Reckless Driving for Big Wallers. Probably with an over .08 BAC, bumping it up to DWI.


Another good reason to climb where no one else does.

Nice apology though





MudPuppy

Trad climber
Gliese 581 g
Oct 5, 2012 - 11:50pm PT
Slobmonster:
I had a girlfriend, once, who justified her infidelity with this line:

"I'd rather ask forgiveness, than for permission."

Yeah, she said that's what she told you.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Oct 5, 2012 - 11:54pm PT
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

(uuugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

So yall accepted ptpp's press release. So the f*#k what!? Feel better now? Got outraged over some distant sh#t you had nothing whatsoever to do with, and now you get your prostrate stroked by a sales pitch.

F*#k you ptpp.

DMT

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup! +1



How many times has Pete dude tossed his shet in the past six years and has basically done the same as he has done on this thread?





I got ten bucks says he does it again....


maldaly

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 6, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Thanks Pete.
Lambone

Big Wall climber
Ashland, Or
Oct 6, 2012 - 03:19am PT
I don't believe it.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Oct 6, 2012 - 03:28am PT
wait, what happened?
i was working my roadside beanie stand over by the 'Milks.
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Oct 6, 2012 - 03:58am PT
What inquiring minds really want to know: does this mean that Tom will resume publicizing the vertical junk show, will PTCSP, aka TTHBP, continue to attract new clusterfvcks to grab the bottom rungs of his aiders--where his putrid feet consistently reside--in order to worship at them, adore him, and slaver over the names he incessantly drops in his oh-so-helpfully-self-serving posts???
Moof

Big Wall climber
Orygun
Oct 6, 2012 - 09:55am PT
Still the Canadian Assassin for good reason.
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:01am PT
I'm sure your imaginary friend Jesus will accept your apology.
Greg @ seems to be trying to make nice as well.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:12am PT
Moof +1
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:35am PT
E

Social climber
Tujunga CA.
Oct 6, 2012 - 11:57am PT
i think that he does'nt mean it.
maybe he should take a blood oath
Farouk

Boulder climber
Sylvan Grove
Oct 6, 2012 - 12:20pm PT
I'd notify all his sponsors like we did on that Red Bull kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 6, 2012 - 01:39pm PT
Of course...

Credit: Ihateplastic

Credit: Ihateplastic
ag.Fox

Trad climber
Reno, NV
Oct 6, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
Hey everyone,

I just want to apologize for my part in this whole thing. In my 19 previous grade VI ascents of El Cap, I had never done this before. Those of you who know me realize that I am a minimalist and have endured several end-of-route epics from lack of water and food. I had no idea that it would turn into the sh|tfest that it did - I hadn't fully considered the consequences. I did read every single post, and I hear you guys loud and clear. And rest assured, this will never happen again on my watch.

Sincerely,
Fox
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 6, 2012 - 10:33pm PT
Another nice acknowledgement. Nicely done.
elcap-pics

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Oct 7, 2012 - 11:57pm PT
Thanks Jon, apology accepted!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 8, 2012 - 12:46am PT
And rest assured, this will never happen again on my watch.

Which, climbing with a Canadian or tossing?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Oct 8, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
Will Nacho Libre let him on the Bridge™ now?


neversummer

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Oct 8, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 8, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Hey Mr Fox! Good on ya- you were no doubt under the influence of that tosser..;-)
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