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Social climber
Tujunga CA.
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el cap is a round trip deal. ya gotta carry all your stuff to the base. then you have to climb it.
Now when you are totally beat you have to break it down and carry it off.
i can carry 90 lbs off in just a few hrs. maybe a second trip depending on partners.
I have launched my stuff twice off the captain, first one we cut the whole load loose with no chute from high on the Horse chute to enable a 10 pitch day and overall 3 day climb. second time was after zm with my friend Greg Byrne. Both times we lost gear cuz we were pretty dumb. Nobody around back then to endanger. Also launched a curry ledge off with walt. We threw it off just as the wind picked up. The ledge became a flying wing and we watched it fly smartly around the corner of the east buttress and dissappear. Found it at slabhappy pinnacle.
Way too many people around to throw stuff any more.
EE
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E
Social climber
Tujunga CA.
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thumbs down for improper climbing content
180 posts.....losers
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cliffhanger
Trad climber
California
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Well all I can say is that I am aghast!
Survival was a tosser.
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Jeremy
Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
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Sh#t Phil...I coulda told you that.
;-)
Hehehe...
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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GUIDED PRECISION AERIAL DELIVERY SYSTEM
With that delivery system Pete can drop his bags right at the bridge.
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10b4me
Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
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thumbs down for improper climbing content
180 posts.....losers
hahaha!
Aren't there enough people in Camp 4 willing to go up and carry sh#t down for a fee?
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John M
climber
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with the time limits camp 4 isn't the dirtbag holding pen it use to be.
Plus dirtbag prices have gone up. 100 bucks a bag is getting a bit steep for some folks.
I have an idea for cutting cost. Hire a dirtbag to make certain the landing zone is clear, and then drop them and have the dirtbag haul the pigs out from the base. A couple of radios or cell phones should handle the communication issues.
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Jim Brennan
Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
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100 bucks a bag for a porter ? WOW! that's a good deal.
How much to carry a used up wall climber down ? Is a sedan chair extra ?
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toadgas
Trad climber
los angeles
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with the time limits camp 4 isn't the dirtbag holding pen it use to be.
Plus dirtbag prices have gone up. 100 bucks a bag is getting a bit steep for some folks.
I have an idea for cutting cost. Hire a dirtbag to make certain the landing zone is clear, and then drop them and have the dirtbag
all this talk about "dirtbags"
can anyone post an educational pic of a current "dirtbag"...not a bitd one?
like side-by-side pics of a current dirtbag beside a more typical C4 resident?
this is important
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John M
climber
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there are dirtbags. They just don't live in camp 4 anymore.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
los gatos. ca
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Gotta live in the woods with the damn stay restrictions at c4
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Yew tards.
Follow the money.
Back the hell in the day we got $100 for carrying a 50-pound load to the top for CBS News. With inflation and a generous discount for climbing brotherly love, it's not feasible for less than $125/RT. Dirtbag economics dictates expediency, however: take what they offer and be happy. If they don't offer, ask. If you never ask, you are a tard and don't deserve to be a dirtbag.
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E
Social climber
Tujunga CA.
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price for 55 lb load from the nose is $150 all day long. more from further over. its worth $200 easy. Wanna know why? whole days work, you got to jug. Then you gotta get the stuff, organize it, and then rap with the load on usually sh#t fixed lines. its actually sorta dangerous, why do you think that people pay to get their stuff removed from the summit.
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cliffhanger
Trad climber
California
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The American dirtbag is an overpaid wimp.
Not only do most porters in the Himalaya area go barefoot, they also use tumplines, bearing the entire load on their head, suitable for monster loads up to 320 pounds! Plus they work cheap.
The Nepali porter is amazingly strong despite his her small stature. On average they can carry around 75 kg loads in baskets which are strapped with a tumpline on their forehead. They start at an early age of 10 with ‘small’ loads of 22kgs. The porters on the Everest trail carry up to 145kgs for the local market.

Here's a barefoot teenage porter in Nepal:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/20428407
http://www.18531.com/2009/04/sherpa-barefoot-on-top-of-mount-everest-to-find-their-own-cattle/
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BASE1361
climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
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So a dirtbag is one who removes the gear from the base that a douche bag dropped?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Just a thought - maybe people are taking way more than they need.
I never needed bottles of wine, boomboxes, or stoves.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Or firewood, barbecues, etc...
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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This thread is a great impotent roar of mighty mice. Yall AIN'T GONNA DO SH#T.
Nada.
Steal ptpp's junk show??? Ain't got the hair on your BALLS to do that.
DMT
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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And if they do Dingus, They shoud:
1) Be climbing.
2) Be drinking a beer at the summit after climbing.
3) Be bailing from a climb.
4) Be getting a rescue from YOSAR on a climb.
Not camping out a spot for booty.
THOUGH a great RIP thread would ensue...
"!@#%$!@$ died doing what he loved, waiting at the base of a climb for PTPP's haul bag. He waited the right spot, but forgot to avoid it, and ultimately paid the price."
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