Tom Evans pissed...and rightly so.


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Oct 4, 2012 - 01:19am PT
Wasn't the soloist on zodiac woken up by the bag hitting the ground as she bivvied at the base?

Oct 4, 2012 - 01:20am PT
sorry if my sarcasm was missed.... could not be more against the pansy ass attitude of throwing bags in this day and age...

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 4, 2012 - 01:43am PT
Nice work Salad. My Bad!

Oct 4, 2012 - 02:25am PT
no bad IHP. i was trying to be vague because:

1) i dont belong to climbing history
2) ive never been a good climber
3) ive only climbed the captain once
4) ive only climbed a few walls
5) i havent done sh#t in a few years cause im a fat ol father of 2 (no excuse i know)

but it pisses me the fck off that people throw sh#t off the top of any climb.

oh fck.. here is a good example, mutha fckin duh...

how the fck can anyone throw anyting off the top of a climb these days?

it makes me sick that people are so into themselves, and so effing weak physically and psychologically to not finish the job with style and class.

i try and stay out of these debates beacause i know that i suck at climbing and all the hard ass mother fckrs on this forum would laugh me back into next week for throwing out my dumb ass opinions...

whatever. you suck if you cant get your stuff down on your own, of course barring life threating situations when dropping is your only choice.

anyway whatever, this thread pisses me off. quit throwing your bags off el cap. if i can top out and in july and get my sht down, surely you can.

Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
Oct 4, 2012 - 02:33am PT
What if they were attacked by a large number of naked women on top and accidentally dropped the bags?

wouldn't it have had to be a hoard of 14yr olds if PtHP was so distracted by it? just sayin...

in all honesty, these are far from the 1st ethical transgressions the guy has been associated with, and the idea that he'll magically develop some character is, well, kinda far fetched, IMO.

Social climber
Tujunga CA.
Oct 4, 2012 - 11:35am PT
el cap is a round trip deal. ya gotta carry all your stuff to the base. then you have to climb it.
Now when you are totally beat you have to break it down and carry it off.
i can carry 90 lbs off in just a few hrs. maybe a second trip depending on partners.
I have launched my stuff twice off the captain, first one we cut the whole load loose with no chute from high on the Horse chute to enable a 10 pitch day and overall 3 day climb. second time was after zm with my friend Greg Byrne. Both times we lost gear cuz we were pretty dumb. Nobody around back then to endanger. Also launched a curry ledge off with walt. We threw it off just as the wind picked up. The ledge became a flying wing and we watched it fly smartly around the corner of the east buttress and dissappear. Found it at slabhappy pinnacle.
Way too many people around to throw stuff any more.


Social climber
Tujunga CA.
Oct 4, 2012 - 11:47am PT

thumbs down for improper climbing content
180 posts.....losers

Trad climber
Oct 4, 2012 - 11:54am PT


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Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 4, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
Well all I can say is that I am aghast!
Survival was a tosser.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oct 4, 2012 - 12:05pm PT

With that delivery system Pete can drop his bags right at the bridge.

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Oct 4, 2012 - 12:24pm PT

thumbs down for improper climbing content
180 posts.....losers

Aren't there enough people in Camp 4 willing to go up and carry sh#t down for a fee?
John M

Oct 4, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
with the time limits camp 4 isn't the dirtbag holding pen it use to be.

Plus dirtbag prices have gone up. 100 bucks a bag is getting a bit steep for some folks.

I have an idea for cutting cost. Hire a dirtbag to make certain the landing zone is clear, and then drop them and have the dirtbag haul the pigs out from the base. A couple of radios or cell phones should handle the communication issues.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Oct 4, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
100 bucks a bag for a porter ? WOW! that's a good deal.

How much to carry a used up wall climber down ? Is a sedan chair extra ?
John M

Oct 4, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
there are dirtbags. They just don't live in camp 4 anymore.

Big Wall climber
los gatos. ca
Oct 4, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
Gotta live in the woods with the damn stay restrictions at c4
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 4, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
Yew tards.

Follow the money.

Back the hell in the day we got $100 for carrying a 50-pound load to the top for CBS News. With inflation and a generous discount for climbing brotherly love, it's not feasible for less than $125/RT. Dirtbag economics dictates expediency, however: take what they offer and be happy. If they don't offer, ask. If you never ask, you are a tard and don't deserve to be a dirtbag.


Social climber
Tujunga CA.
Oct 4, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
price for 55 lb load from the nose is $150 all day long. more from further over. its worth $200 easy. Wanna know why? whole days work, you got to jug. Then you gotta get the stuff, organize it, and then rap with the load on usually sh#t fixed lines. its actually sorta dangerous, why do you think that people pay to get their stuff removed from the summit.


Trad climber
Oct 4, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
The American dirtbag is an overpaid wimp.

Not only do most porters in the Himalaya area go barefoot, they also use tumplines, bearing the entire load on their head, suitable for monster loads up to 320 pounds! Plus they work cheap.

The Nepali porter is amazingly strong despite his her small stature. On average they can carry around 75 kg loads in baskets which are strapped with a tumpline on their forehead. They start at an early age of 10 with ‘small’ loads of 22kgs. The porters on the Everest trail carry up to 145kgs for the local market.

Here's a barefoot teenage porter in Nepal:

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 4, 2012 - 07:04pm PT
Just a thought - maybe people are taking way more than they need.
I never needed bottles of wine, boomboxes, or stoves.

Big Wall climber
Oct 4, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
Or firewood, barbecues, etc...
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