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Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
Back when men were men and sheep were scared. :-)

Back in Kazakhstan sheep are women. That's why they are scared ; )
Roadie

Trad climber
Bishop, Ca
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
Wow, so much hate. So much self-righteous indignation.
How many of you have never broken a rule in the Park? Never bivied in the boulders? In your van?
I did for years.
Has anyone ever been killed by a falling haulbag? Sure, I guess it could happen but the odds???
Did he parachute it or just let it fly?
Way back in the 90s when I was doing walls the bag toss was commonplace, and no, I never did. And no, Iím not a huge Pete fan.
I guess what Iím saying is- when did tattling to the tool on your fellow climber become so cool. Kind of makes me want to take up golf or something.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
Don't tattle, booty!
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 3, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
So many parallels with drunk driving...

The aptly named bigwall shitter has told us:

No one was hurt (luckily). Give them a scolding and make sure it doesn't happen again

Have you lost someone to a drunk driver? If so, were you willing to quickly:

Don't be so quick to sh#t on him, or at least tone down the level of sh#t.

Sure, the approach to the Captain is not the 405 late Saturday night, but the actions here are no different than what happens each and every day on our highways.

Did everyone see Werner's post on the duplicate thread?

Credit: Ihateplastic

So it CAN happen and it DOES happen. Perhaps the next victim will be your girlfriend, son, daughter, dad, mom, best friend, etc. Then will you remain toned down in your rhetoric?
elcap-pics

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Oct 3, 2012 - 09:39pm PT
My last word one this... when I contacted Pete at the end of last season I told him that all he had to do was just say " I have tossed bags in the past and I will not do so in the future" and all the mess would go away. Never got an answer. Also we have been fortunate that all the close calls were just that and now we can go forward with the knowledge that there is not just long odds against hitting someone but now there is ZERO chance of hitting anyone because no bags will go flying. Simple solution. I too like Pete and accept his weirdness as the charge for having a diverse group. I actually defend his "big wall camping" to the tourons because he does have a point and although I never camped like that it does make some sense. I only called him out after I realized that he was not going to listen to any of us individually so we ALL needed to put pressure on him.
Thank you guys for helping make him see the brashness of his actions. I will welcome him back to the community when he just tells us the simple words I wrote above. Sorry it had to go this far.
Time to end this thread.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
Let's hear from the man himself to end this thread. Pete?
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:16pm PT
Put this puppy to bed Tom, you must be kidding?

"There once was a climber name Pete
Whose antics were far from discreet.

Best known as a wanker
He's more like a chancre

On climbing ťlan and technique."


By order of the Blue Cagoule
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
Now wouldn't that be nice, a word from the abused ( I mean't accused) and then, hopefully, an end to the conjecture and pontification on this thread.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
This is like, the one thread people could possibly be justified in stealing. Look how many jump to it, lol.


ME ME I'LL ROB HIM ME I'LL STEAL FROM HIM!


Yup. That's how it works.

It's convenient when, in your eyes, the best form of punishment nets you a bunch of material toys and things.



Mob mentality is scary, like everyone cant WAIT to get a reason to sh#t all over someone so they go massively overboard when one of those oppurtinities presents itself.
dipper

climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
PTPP,

Rarely are you at a loss for words.

Now a discussion about some activity by you, some very foolish, selfish, dangerous and illegal activity, and you have bupkiss to say?

Sack up and own up.

Can you not trade places, imagine yourself at the base with some fool dropping things from above and see why you need to stop doing this?
MisterE

Social climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:25pm PT
I wonder how many of these "Base-bootyers" will be hanging out, endangering themselves at the base, to be the first ones after the "Hiss, BOOM!"

There would be some morbid irony there, not that I would wish it on anyone...

Jess sayin'
Prod

Trad climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:33pm PT
You touch my bag and you'd be one sorry Prod and you can count on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So then you toss your haul bags as well?

Prod.
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:59pm PT
I have little climbing experience in Yosemite and I have never done a "big wall." Can someone please explain what you would put in the bag that is tossed. Wouldn't a lot of the stuff in it and the bag itself be destroyed from the drop?
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:00pm PT
Can someone please explain what you would put in the bag that is tossed.

A bunch of turds in paper bags...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:02pm PT
I have little climbing experience in Yosemite and I have never done a "big wall." Can someone please explain what you would put in the bag that is tossed. Wouldn't a lot of the stuff in it and the bag itself be destroyed from the drop?

Semen and O.E., mostly.
BASE1361

climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
Sounds like admission of guilt on the Canadian ASSissan and time for a fine and ban from the tOOl
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
Funny. But seriously, what's in the bag and isn't it destroyed?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
Dunno never tossed one. But there are plenty of things that would survive the fall just fine..Clothes, Rope sleeping bag, Extra food, Most of the rack should be fine. The bag? hard to say depend what it hit I suppose.. But bags are quite repairable. Not the portaledge of course.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
I will welcome him back to the community when he just tells us the simple words I wrote above. Sorry it had to go this far.

So the guy that takes the pictures is the one who decides to kick someone out of the community, or take them back? I must become friends with this dude!
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Oct 3, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
Holy smokes, folks... Points have been made, lathers have been sufficiently worked up into...

Go to bed.
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