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Social climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
What JStan said.

Reckless endangerment is a crime consisting of acts that create a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The accused person isn't required to intend the resulting or potential harm, but must have acted in a way that showed a disregard for the foreseeable consequences of the actions.

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Oct 3, 2012 - 03:50pm PT

Ice climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
granite you're right how soon we forget just a few days ago Pete was helping Travis live and now people want to hang him high for being a tosser.

I'm going to try and have beers with fox this week and he will tell me whats up.

What if they were attacked by a large number of naked women on top and accidentally dropped the bags?

Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 04:04pm PT
For the record I'm not advocating lynching Pete, and I know they were down a partner but this kinda of thing just is not acceptable.

Yosemite Valley National Park
Oct 3, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
Silver I respect you but one act that any good person would do when someone is in need of medial attention is quite different from endangering the lives of others. Again apples vs oranges
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 3, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
Just put him on the government's "No US Entry" list. That way he can spend his vacations taking 40 days to aid up Squamish and toss his bags there.

When Pete does something like this, he's the American assassin - he has dual citizenship. So you can't keep him out.

And please don't be throwing your bags off Baffin Island. It makes a mess in a real wilderness, plus only a fool would be separated from her/his equipment in that environment.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 3, 2012 - 04:32pm PT
As I said a few times in this thread.

I like Pete. But regardless even if he was my best friend... hell especially if he was my best friend I'd have to take him to task for this.

Does not mean I wont be glad to see him again sometime .. hell.. I'd be glad to climb with him.

Once he stops dropping bags for once and all

Which has to happen

Ice climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 05:31pm PT
Base your right one act does not make amens for this, but i think its necessary to remind some that Pete is a good person not just a tosser.

Ill end with this here and I hate doing it on the last post on a page but take my word on this.

I spoke to Pete he gets it now. It will never happen again. He loves the valley he loves the big rock he loves this community of climbers and he would never want to hurt anyone.

He is sorry he will stay away from the bridge, he will earn your trust through actions not words and I for one am willing to believe Pete.



Social climber
Joshua Tree
Oct 3, 2012 - 05:43pm PT
Someone runs to call 911 when a guy who is essentially part of his climbing team at the time gets hurt...and you expect accolades for that? F*#kin'a man, that's bare minimum I'd expect, not some heroic achievement. Get your goggles on straight, you're not seeing this very clearly IMO.

Tossing bags, in prime season, when there WAS someone at the base...not
"could be", WAS someone right next to the drop he trying to even the karmic balance? Help save one, kill another to compensate?


Oct 3, 2012 - 05:54pm PT
I spoke to Pete he gets it now. It will never happen again.

Is a third party report of such a declaration an adequate response when the lives of bystanders are at stake?

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Oct 3, 2012 - 05:55pm PT
Just for the record here.

My accident is a totally separate incident from this and I would really like it to stay that way. I owe Jon and Pete my life. End of story there. I do not want one action to be sullied or enhanced by the other.


Even with that being the case, I do not in any way shape or form condone anyone tossing anything off a big wall. Or cliff. Or building. Even if you know it's clear, sh#t happens. Not only that, you're doing a hell of a lot of impact damage to gear that you depend on for your life. Not to mention 50 other reasons why it's a bad idea.

If the facts are what has been stated, then I am going to be super disappointed with the individuals involved.

But I wasn't there - and neither were most of the people posting here. Until I talk to Pete and Jon face to face, I am going to wait to start throwing stones at glass walls. And I will talk to them face to face about it.

And that's all I have to say.

Social climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 05:59pm PT
He is sorry he will stay away from the bridge, he will earn your trust through actions not words and I for one am willing to believe Pete.

I'd like him to apologize for his own actions.

We can seperate people an events. Hitler was a great painter (lol Godwin's law) and I'm a terrible chef. Give actions the weight they deserve.

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 3, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
Yeah that would be a great defense in court. But ya see yer honor I had nookie waiting at camp.

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Oct 3, 2012 - 06:42pm PT
The Hubers almost killed us with a hall bag they dropped accidentally back in 2003. Thomas did rap down and apologize hard feelings.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
Back when men were men and sheep were scared. :-)

Back in Kazakhstan sheep are women. That's why they are scared ; )

Trad climber
Bishop, Ca
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:36pm PT
Wow, so much hate. So much self-righteous indignation.
How many of you have never broken a rule in the Park? Never bivied in the boulders? In your van?
I did for years.
Has anyone ever been killed by a falling haulbag? Sure, I guess it could happen but the odds???
Did he parachute it or just let it fly?
Way back in the 90s when I was doing walls the bag toss was commonplace, and no, I never did. And no, Iím not a huge Pete fan.
I guess what Iím saying is- when did tattling to the tool on your fellow climber become so cool. Kind of makes me want to take up golf or something.

Sport climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
Don't tattle, booty!

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Oct 3, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
So many parallels with drunk driving...

The aptly named bigwall shitter has told us:

No one was hurt (luckily). Give them a scolding and make sure it doesn't happen again

Have you lost someone to a drunk driver? If so, were you willing to quickly:

Don't be so quick to sh#t on him, or at least tone down the level of sh#t.

Sure, the approach to the Captain is not the 405 late Saturday night, but the actions here are no different than what happens each and every day on our highways.

Did everyone see Werner's post on the duplicate thread?

Credit: Ihateplastic

So it CAN happen and it DOES happen. Perhaps the next victim will be your girlfriend, son, daughter, dad, mom, best friend, etc. Then will you remain toned down in your rhetoric?

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Oct 3, 2012 - 09:39pm PT
My last word one this... when I contacted Pete at the end of last season I told him that all he had to do was just say " I have tossed bags in the past and I will not do so in the future" and all the mess would go away. Never got an answer. Also we have been fortunate that all the close calls were just that and now we can go forward with the knowledge that there is not just long odds against hitting someone but now there is ZERO chance of hitting anyone because no bags will go flying. Simple solution. I too like Pete and accept his weirdness as the charge for having a diverse group. I actually defend his "big wall camping" to the tourons because he does have a point and although I never camped like that it does make some sense. I only called him out after I realized that he was not going to listen to any of us individually so we ALL needed to put pressure on him.
Thank you guys for helping make him see the brashness of his actions. I will welcome him back to the community when he just tells us the simple words I wrote above. Sorry it had to go this far.
Time to end this thread.
Big Mike

Trad climber
Oct 3, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
Let's hear from the man himself to end this thread. Pete?
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